Mickey Rourke
Made films the shows talk about.
Wikidata Q178552: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only person by that name on Wikidata.
Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: Beverly Hills Cop (1984); Tombstone (1993); In the Cut (2003). Count them as actor (5 films) instead.
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
The Godfather (1972): 2 lines
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craft (craft) · through Tombstone (1993), which they were tied to as almost cast as Johnny Ringo:
The Godfather ⇒ Tombstone (the maker said so: Russell, in his True West magazine interview).
Russell's intended tone was a Western Godfather; Jarre's version was more elegant.
“Well, Russell says it, it was basically the godfather of Westerns.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:10:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft) · through Tombstone (1993), which they were tied to as almost cast as Johnny Ringo:
The Godfather ⇒ Tombstone (the host's read).
The Oriental faro takeover shows the Godfather-like business side Russell wanted.
“You could see the godfather thing that Russell's talking about when he moves into Tombstone and immediately takes over the Faro game at the Oriental.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:33:55 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
1970s cop movies: 1 line
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lineage (tone lineage) · through Beverly Hills Cop (1984), which they were tied to as attached lead on a holding deal, left the project:
1970s cop movies ⇒ Beverly Hills Cop (the host's read).
The first film feels like an extension of 70s cop movies, especially the Detroit material, while the sequel feels glossy and 80s.
“There's a world in which that almost feels like an extension of like 70s cop movies.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:07:52 · Chris Ryan (0.70 sure it was them)
Eric Roberts: 1 line
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unmapped (advocacy) · them, directly:
Eric Roberts ⇒ Mickey Rourke (the host's read).
Rourke repeatedly urged Hollywood to give Roberts another chance in awards speeches, which got Stallone to hire him.
“Mickey Rourke, when he was winning all his fucking wrestler awards, kept on being like, do you remember this in all of his speeches”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 0:10:54 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
In the Heat of the Night (1967): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Beverly Hills Cop (1984), which they were tied to as attached lead on a holding deal, left the project:
In the Heat of the Night ⇒ Beverly Hills Cop (the host's read).
Described as In the Heat of the Night meets Beverly Hills; both are fish-out-of-water movies.
“said that the Beverly Hills Cop is essentially in the heat of the night meets Beverly Hills.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:27:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
John Ford: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Tombstone (1993), which they were tied to as almost cast as Johnny Ringo:
John Ford ⇒ Tombstone (the host's read).
Contrast: Ford Westerns vs gnarly, vulgar Tombstone.
“bridge from John Ford Westerns to Deadwood”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:34:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
Michael Eisner: 1 line
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industry (industry) · through Beverly Hills Cop (1984), which they were tied to as attached lead on a holding deal, left the project:
Michael Eisner ⇒ Beverly Hills Cop (the maker said so: a podcast the speaker did with Eisner).
Eisner claims he came up with the idea after a speeding ticket in 1975; Simpson claimed it from 1977.
“in 1975, he got a speeding ticket with a cop, thought the guy was a little bit of a dick”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:06:23 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
Susanna Moore: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through In the Cut (2003), which they were tied to as actor (considered for a supporting part):
Susanna Moore ⇒ In the Cut (the host's read).
Campion had been developing the film since the mid-90s, when she read Moore's novel.
“Campion had been working on this movie since the mid 90s when she read Susanna Moore's novel, which came out in 95.”
Blank Check — Patreon · In the Cut with Jourdain Searles (Ad-Free) · 0:24:44 · Griffin or David (unclear) (0.35 sure it was them)
The French Connection (1971): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Beverly Hills Cop (1984), which they were tied to as attached lead on a holding deal, left the project:
The French Connection ⇒ Beverly Hills Cop (the host's read).
Recast Popeye Doyle as Axel Foley and the movie barely changes; the apartments are essentially the same.
“Like you take the French connection and you recast Dean Hackman's, you make Popeye Doyle, Axel Foley.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:23:34 · Wesley Morris (0.70 sure it was them)
Three Amigos (1986): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Tombstone (1993), which they were tied to as almost cast as Johnny Ringo:
Three Amigos ⇒ Tombstone (the host's read).
The wedding-execution opening resembles the Three Amigos setup.
“this movie's after the 3 amigos, right?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:28:23 · Chris Ryan (0.30 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
Deadwood (2004): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Tombstone (1993), which they were tied to as almost cast as Johnny Ringo:
Tombstone ⇒ Deadwood (the host's read).
Tombstone as the bridge from John Ford Westerns to Deadwood.
“I tend to think of this movie as the bridge from John Ford Westerns to Deadwood”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:34:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them)
Shawn Ryan: 1 line
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programming (programming) · through Beverly Hills Cop (1984), which they were tied to as attached lead on a holding deal, left the project:
Beverly Hills Cop ⇒ Shawn Ryan (the host's read).
Shawn Ryan tried a Beverly Hills Cop TV show; CBS made a pilot that didn't work.
“that CBS did a pilot for and apparently it didn't work.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:09:37 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Acting (8) everyone in acting
- actor, career arc compared to Eric Roberts, The Wrestler (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Star 80 with Julie Klausner)
- actor, The Wrestler (Blank Check with Griffin & David, As Good as It Gets with Chris Gethard)
- actor (Rourke), Year of the Dragon (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Flesh+Blood)
- actor, Year of the Dragon (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Flesh+Blood)
- actor (Ivan Vanko / Whiplash), Iron Man 2 (Blank Check — Patreon, Iron Man 2)
- actor, The Wrestler (Blank Check — Patreon, Iron Man 2)
- actor, Rumble Fish (Blank Check — Patreon, Iron Man 2)
- actor, Diner (Blank Check — Patreon, Iron Man 2)
Other (4) everyone in other
- attached lead on a holding deal, left the project, Beverly Hills Cop (The Rewatchables, ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- almost cast as Johnny Ringo, Tombstone (The Rewatchables, ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- actor (considered for a supporting part), In the Cut (Blank Check — Patreon, In the Cut with Jourdain Searles (Ad-Free))
- actor (offered), Beverly Hills Cop (Blank Check — Patreon, Iron Man 2)
What was said about them, by kind
career (5)
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career (career arc):
Eric Roberts → Mickey Rourke.
Roberts's trajectory from hot talent to unemployable-then-prolific mirrors Rourke's.
“It's a very similar arc to Mickey Rourke, I think.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 0:09:39 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Mickey Rourke → Domino.
Rourke's comeback era was spent in films like Domino and Once Upon a Time in Mexico.
“he was in fucking domino once upon a time in Mexico”
Blank Check — Patreon · In the Cut with Jourdain Searles (Ad-Free) · 1:41:49 · Griffin or David (unclear) (0.35 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Mickey Rourke → The Wrestler.
After The Wrestler his battered face made casting hard, and a stylized comic-book villain was seen as a smart use of it.
“And this had felt like, okay, we're going to book villain is a good call, right?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:25:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Mickey Rourke → Rumble Fish.
The ruined Rourke is contrasted with how handsome he was in Rumble Fish.
“It's so sad too, because he is so hot in the motorcycle movie with a rumblefish.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:46:25 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Mickey Rourke → Diner.
Rourke's high-pitched youthful voice is compared to Pacino's in the same way.
“He's also one of those guys where when he was young, he had such a high pitched voice.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:46:35 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
craft (1)
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craft (craft):
Rick Baker → Mickey Rourke.
The speaker jokes that makeup artist Rick Baker was handed an Academy Award for Rourke's look, when Rourke simply showed up on set that way.
“Rick Baker, an Academy Award for Mickey Rourke in this movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 2:09:08 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
unmapped (1)
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unmapped (advocacy):
Eric Roberts → Mickey Rourke.
Rourke repeatedly urged Hollywood to give Roberts another chance in awards speeches, which got Stallone to hire him.
“Mickey Rourke, when he was winning all his fucking wrestler awards, kept on being like, do you remember this in all of his speeches”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 0:10:54 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
what-if (6)
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what-if (what-if):
Beverly Hills Cop → Mickey Rourke.
The Rourke gap: a stretch where he could have made Beverly Hills Cop, and instead did Eureka and Year of the Dragon.
“you have the space where you could have had Beverly Hills Cop, and instead you have Eureka and you're the Dragon”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:01:56 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Mickey Rourke → Tombstone.
Rourke was nearly Johnny Ringo and turned it down.
“Mickey Rourke was almost cast as Johnny Ringo and turned it down.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:41:50 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Mickey Rourke → In the Cut.
Per unsourced IMDb trivia, Kidman vetoed Rourke for a supporting role.
“However, his involvement was allegedly vetoed by Nicole Kidman on the strength of Rourke's wild reputation.”
Blank Check — Patreon · In the Cut with Jourdain Searles (Ad-Free) · 1:41:23 · Griffin or David (unclear) (0.35 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Mickey Rourke → Wreck-It Ralph.
Rourke would suit a live-action Wreck-It Ralph.
“Mickey could do live action record, Ralph.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:46:59 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Beverly Hills Cop → Mickey Rourke.
After Stallone dropped out of Beverly Hills Cop, Rourke was offered the part, then Eddie Murphy came in and the film was rebuilt around his riffing.
“Anyway, so Mickey Rourke says no.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:59:41 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Genndy Tartakovsky → Mickey Rourke.
A live-action Tartakovsky film with people who look like cartoon characters, like Rourke.
“Imagine what he would do with Mickey Rourke.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 1:50:45 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
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fun, about
Mickey Rourke:
Don Simpson reportedly tore a picture of Mickey Rourke out of a magazine and said 'isn't he great?'; Rourke then signed a $400,000 holding deal and left the project.
“Mr. Simpson tore it out, held it up and said, isn't he great?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:01:19 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Mickey Rourke:
Unsourced IMDb trivia: Kidman vetoed Rourke for a supporting part, and Rourke thinks it would have fast-tracked his comeback.
“Mickey Rourke was initially considered for a supporting role.”
Blank Check — Patreon · In the Cut with Jourdain Searles (Ad-Free) · 1:41:20 · Griffin or David (unclear) (0.35 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Mickey Rourke:
Rourke's Chihuahua died right before filming; he allegedly made PAs hold up pictures of the dog and its belongings for the crying and screaming scenes.
“And he apparently would make PAs hold up pictures of his dog and like his dog's belongings for all these scenes where he's like crying and screaming.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:05:40 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Mickey Rourke:
Rumor of Rourke and Rockwell as the two villains played well, then Rourke trashed Marvel on the red carpet; the trailer was built around the Monte Carlo reveal of him.
“Maybe if those skinflints at Marvel open up their wallets a little bit.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:07:03 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Mickey Rourke:
See Rourke's scene with Rockwell around 0:47 to 0:49: Rourke's bird; the hosts say the salary meeting was moved to a hangar and Rourke asked for his boy.
“Rourke's agent was like, he'll only meet you in an airplane hangar.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:50:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)