Steve Martin
Made films the shows talk about.
Wikidata Q16473: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by Wikidata joins them to Father of the Bride, which ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins credits them on.
Counted as actor. The films the hosts said they acted in, which the two lists below run through too: The Jerk (1979); The Man with Two Brains (1983); All of Me (1984); Three Amigos (1986); Planes, Trains and Automobiles (1987); Roxanne (1987); Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (1988); Parenthood (1989); Father of the Bride (1991); Father of the Bride Part II (1995); The Prince of Egypt (1998); Bowfinger (1999); Bringing Down the House (2003); It's Complicated (2009); Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid; Grand Canyon; L.A. Story; My Blue Heaven; Pennies from Heaven; The Lonely Guy.
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Father of the Bride (1991): 1 line, within their own work
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lineage (sequel) · through Father of the Bride Part II (1995), which they acted in:
Father of the Bride ⇒ Father of the Bride Part II (the host's read).
Dobbins is okay with Part II because it comments on weddings and pregnancy smartly and she likes the family; it made $76.6M on a $30M budget.
“I'm okay with Father of the Bride too.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:46:18 · Amanda Dobbins (0.90 sure it was them)
Father of the Bride (1950): 1 line
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lineage (remake) · through Father of the Bride (1991), which they acted in:
Father of the Bride ⇒ Father of the Bride (the host's read).
The 1991 film remakes the Spencer Tracy and Elizabeth Taylor original, and the duo argue the remake anxiety has faded with time.
“there is obviously the original with Spencer Tracy and Elizabeth Taylor, but fine.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:02:04 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
Goodfellas (1990): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through My Blue Heaven, which they acted in:
Goodfellas ⇒ My Blue Heaven (the host's read).
My Blue Heaven is blown out by Goodfellas as it is the same movie, like a sequel.
“It got kind of blown out of the water by Goodfellas because it's the same movie.”
The Big Picture · The 1990 Movie Draft · 1:31:51 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Parenthood (1989): 1 line, within their own work
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verdict (best-Martin-movie rival) · through Father of the Bride (1991), which they acted in:
Parenthood ⇒ Father of the Bride (the host's read).
Some would pick Parenthood as his best because it tried this type of movie first and spun off into a TV show.
“Some people might say parenthood actually, because it's the 1st type of movie that tried to do the stuff they did.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:19:51 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
The Hustle (2019): 2 lines
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lineage (remake) · through Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (1988), which they acted in:
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels ⇒ The Hustle (the host's read).
The Hustle is a gender-flipped remake of Dirty Rotten Scoundrels that barely admits it in its advertising.
“we've remade Dirty Rotten Scoundrels with women, but we're not really going to talk about that in their advertising.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind with Lulu Wang · 1:59:04 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (remake) · through Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (1988), which they acted in:
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels ⇒ The Hustle (the host's read).
The Hustle is a reboot of Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.
“Rotten scoundrels.”
The Big Picture · The Future of ‘Star Wars,’ Marvel, Pixar, and Disney’s Movie Monopoly. Plus: Our Summer Movie Awards and Paul Downs Colaizzo on ‘Brittany Runs a Marathon’ | The Big Picture · 0:40:43 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
Father of the Bride (1991): 1 line, within their own work
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verdict (best-Martin-movie rival) · through Parenthood (1989), which they acted in:
Parenthood ⇒ Father of the Bride (the host's read).
Some would pick Parenthood as his best because it tried this type of movie first and spun off into a TV show.
“Some people might say parenthood actually, because it's the 1st type of movie that tried to do the stuff they did.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:19:51 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
Father of the Bride Part 3 (Netflix Zoom reunion): 1 line
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lineage (pandemic sequel) · through Father of the Bride (1991), which they acted in:
Father of the Bride ⇒ Father of the Bride Part 3 (Netflix Zoom reunion) (the host's read).
The virtual Netflix reunion is called a low point of the pandemic.
“The virtual Netflix sequel. I think was one of the low points of the pandemic.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:47:27 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)
Father of the Bride Part II (1995): 1 line, within their own work
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lineage (sequel) · through Father of the Bride (1991), which they acted in:
Father of the Bride ⇒ Father of the Bride Part II (the host's read).
Dobbins is okay with Part II because it comments on weddings and pregnancy smartly and she likes the family; it made $76.6M on a $30M budget.
“I'm okay with Father of the Bride too.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:46:18 · Amanda Dobbins (0.90 sure it was them)
Four Weddings and a Funeral (1994): 1 line
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lineage (genre influence) · through Father of the Bride (1991), which they acted in:
Father of the Bride ⇒ Four Weddings and a Funeral (the host's read).
Father of the Bride starts the 90s wedding-movie explosion that includes Four Weddings, Wedding Planner and Wedding Singer.
“This like really starts the 90s explosion of everything from 4 weddings and a funeral to wedding planner and wedding singer and you name it.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:03:26 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)
Tombstone (1993): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Three Amigos (1986), which they acted in:
Three Amigos ⇒ Tombstone (the host's read).
The wedding-execution opening resembles the Three Amigos setup.
“this movie's after the 3 amigos, right?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:28:23 · Chris Ryan (0.30 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Acting (29) everyone in acting
- actor, Planes, Trains and Automobiles (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Empire of the Sun with Bilge Ebiri)
- actor, All of Me (Blank Check with Griffin & David, An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens)
- actor, All of Me (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Starman with Katey Rich)
- actor, Planes, Trains and Automobiles (Blank Check with Griffin & David, As Good as It Gets with Chris Gethard)
- actor, The Man with Two Brains (The Rewatchables, ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor (George Banks), Father of the Bride (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, The Jerk (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, Pennies from Heaven (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, The Man with Two Brains (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, The Lonely Guy (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, All of Me (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, Three Amigos (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, Roxanne (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, Planes, Trains and Automobiles (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, Parenthood (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, My Blue Heaven (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, L.A. Story (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, Grand Canyon (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, Bowfinger (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, It's Complicated (The Rewatchables, ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, My Blue Heaven (The Big Picture, The 1990 Movie Draft)
- star, The Jerk (Blank Check — Patreon, Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free))
- star, The Jerk (Blank Check — Patreon, The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free))
- voice actor, The Prince of Egypt (Blank Check — Patreon, You've Got Mail with Bobby Finger & Lindsey Weber (Ad-Free))
- lead, Father of the Bride Part II (Blank Check — Patreon, Something's Gotta Give with Bobby Finger (Ad-Free))
- lead, Bringing Down the House (Blank Check — Patreon, Something's Gotta Give with Bobby Finger (Ad-Free))
- lead, It's Complicated (Blank Check — Patreon, Something's Gotta Give with Bobby Finger (Ad-Free))
Other (3) everyone in other
- joke: 'Steve Martin' from the character names, Flesh and Blood (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Flesh+Blood)
- subject, Steve (Steve Martin documentary, dir. Morgan Neville) (The Big Picture, The ‘Babylon’ Watch-Along)
- what-if lead; Kubrick talked to him, Eyes Wide Shut (Blank Check — Patreon, Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free))
What was said about them, by kind
career (1)
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career (career pivot):
Father of the Bride → Steve Martin.
The film cements Martin's shift from wild-and-crazy comic to America's dad and starts mainstream Steve Martin (Oscars host, etc.).
“I don't think he like hosts the Oscars or does any of his sort of just kind of America's dad stuff without this movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:01:59 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)
unmapped (2)
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unmapped (built around star):
Father of the Bride → Steve Martin.
Martin was cast before the screenplay was written; the movie was built around him.
“Steve Martin cast before they wrote the screenplay.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:53:35 · Bill Simmons (0.75 sure it was them) -
unmapped (admired):
Steve Martin → Stanley Kubrick.
Kubrick reportedly wrote Steve Martin asking for notes on The Jerk.
“Kubrick was like sending letters to Steve Martin about the jerk”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:16:49 · Patton Oswalt (0.50 sure it was them)
verdict (2)
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verdict (career apex):
The Jerk → Steve Martin.
The Jerk and SNL in 1978-79 are Martin's true Apex Mountain as the biggest comic in the world.
“it's probably 1978 or 1979 range when he's got the jerk out. He's the biggest comic in the world.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:01:38 · Bill Simmons (0.90 sure it was them) -
verdict (peer Apex Mountain):
Steve Martin → Diane Keaton.
Both Martin and Keaton had their true peaks 13-14 years before this movie.
“So what's interesting is they both have their Apex Mountain. Right. Like 13, 14 years before this movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 1:02:31 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)
what-if (1)
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what-if (what-if casting):
Steve Martin → Eyes Wide Shut.
Kubrick loved The Jerk and talked to Steve Martin about the lead.
“Simon, Steve Martin, he loved the jerk.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Eyes Wide Shut with David Ehrlich (Ad-Free) · 0:40:14 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
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fun, about
Steve Martin:
At the NY Film Critics awards he thanked 'so many distinguished critics and Rex Reed' after Reed's column about his win.
“it is a great honor to have been given this award by so many distinguished critics and Rex Reed.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Starman with Katey Rich · 1:53:20 · Katey Rich (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Steve Martin:
Martin gave up stand-up because he was so famous at it that crowds treated him like a jukebox, and he wrote a book about it.
“they were like jukebox, he became a jukebox.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Father of the Bride’ With Bill Simmons and Amanda Dobbins · 0:15:52 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)