Joel Schumacher

Made films the shows talk about.

Wikidata Q295207: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only person by that name on Wikidata.

Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: Alien 3 (1992); Thor (2011); The Crowded Room (unmade film). Count them as director (11 films) instead.

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Sigourney Weaver: 3 lines

  1. unmapped (creative input) · through Alien 3 (1992), which they were tied to as saw Fincher's cut and advised him: Sigourney Weaver ⇒ Alien 3 (the maker said so). Weaver's top input was no guns, in reaction to the gun focus of Aliens.
    “She was like, Hollywood's 2 gun obsessed.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 1:07:21 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (creative input) · through Alien 3 (1992), which they were tied to as saw Fincher's cut and advised him: Sigourney Weaver ⇒ Alien 3 (the host's read). Weaver insisted on the queen-embryo-inside-her angle.
    “It's a decision that Rip Weaver basically insisted on.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 1:32:35 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (creative input) · through Alien 3 (1992), which they were tied to as saw Fincher's cut and advised him: Sigourney Weaver ⇒ Alien 3 (the host's read). Weaver would only do the movie if Ripley died.
    “She would only do the movie if she got to die.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 2:05:45 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)

Alien (1979): 2 lines

  1. lineage (callback) · through Alien 3 (1992), which they were tied to as saw Fincher's cut and advised him: Alien ⇒ Alien 3 (the host's read). The Bishop remains scene echoes the original film's reactivated-android scene.
    “And just kind of a fun throwback to the, uh, original alien thing where you like take the puppet, you kind of get it ready.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 0:58:26 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (callback) · through Alien 3 (1992), which they were tied to as saw Fincher's cut and advised him: Alien ⇒ Alien 3 (the host's read). The ending coda replays Ripley's tape from the first film.
    “You play back her tape from the end of the 1st movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 2:07:28 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)

Aliens (1986): 2 lines

  1. lineage (sequel) · through Alien 3 (1992), which they were tied to as saw Fincher's cut and advised him: Aliens ⇒ Alien 3 (the host's read). Alien 3 opens by wiping out the status quo that ended Aliens.
    “Seconds of this movie, it literally just burns the status quo established at the end of the last one.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 0:21:41 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (sequel) · through Alien 3 (1992), which they were tied to as saw Fincher's cut and advised him: Aliens ⇒ Alien 3 (the host's read). Alien 3 follows Aliens; watched back to back, Aliens ends on a new family that Alien 3 then kills.
    “you watch aliens and that has this ending of, you know, this new family that has been created.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ with Matt Singer (Ad-Free) · 0:30:17 · Matt Singer (0.40 sure it was them)

Vincent Ward: 2 lines

  1. unmapped (unused draft) · through Alien 3 (1992), which they were tied to as saw Fincher's cut and advised him: Vincent Ward ⇒ Alien 3 (the host's read). Elements of Ward's wooden-planet monks draft survive in the finished film.
    “But that's where that's the 1st iteration that's that's still represented in there.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 0:25:26 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (concept merged in) · through Alien 3 (1992), which they were tied to as saw Fincher's cut and advised him: Vincent Ward ⇒ Alien 3 (the host's read). The film is built from Ward's monk concept pushed together with the prison planet; his only surviving credit is story.
    “they mishing up the monks with the prison planet, they turn the monks into prisoners, but they're kind of religious.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ with Matt Singer (Ad-Free) · 1:01:11 · David Sims (0.35 sure it was them)

Alien 3 (work print cut): 1 line

  1. industry (changed by studio) · through Alien 3 (1992), which they were tied to as saw Fincher's cut and advised him: Alien 3 (work print cut) ⇒ Alien 3 (the host's read). Fox pushed the ox-like creature to become a dog.
    “And yeah, the studio was like, it'll be better if it's a dog”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 0:43:25 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

David Twohy: 1 line

  1. lineage (origin of the prison planet) · through Alien 3 (1992), which they were tied to as saw Fincher's cut and advised him: David Twohy ⇒ Alien 3 (the host's read). Twohy brought the prison-planet concept into the development.
    “Twowey is the one who brings in the prison planet concept, okay?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ with Matt Singer (Ad-Free) · 0:56:20 · Griffin Newman (0.35 sure it was them)

H.R. Giger: 1 line

  1. craft (design contribution) · through Alien 3 (1992), which they were tied to as saw Fincher's cut and advised him: H.R. Giger ⇒ Alien 3 (the host's read). Giger's design work was mostly discarded; the Bambi Burster rod puppet was the main thing of his that ended up in the film.
    “that was apparently the main thing that he had an influence on that actually ended up in the film.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ with Matt Singer (Ad-Free) · 0:21:53 · Griffin Newman (0.30 sure it was them)

J. Michael Straczynski: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they were tied to as compared to Branagh as big, silly director: J. Michael Straczynski ⇒ Thor (the host's read). The film borrows heavily from Straczynski's celebrated Thor run, including Thor spending time in the Midwest.
    “the celebrated Thor arc was J. Michael Stratinsky, which is this is borrowing from heavily.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:28 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Masters of the Universe (1987): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they were tied to as compared to Branagh as big, silly director: Masters of the Universe ⇒ Thor (the host's read). Thor is described as essentially a remake of the live-action Masters of the Universe.
    “It's mostly just a remake of the live action masters of the universe movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:03:54 · Griffin Newman (0.65 sure it was them)

Psycho (1960): 1 line

  1. lineage (homage (scene)) · through Alien 3 (1992), which they were tied to as saw Fincher's cut and advised him: Psycho ⇒ Alien 3 (the host's read). Charles Dance's shower-curtain death is read as Fincher's own 'Hitchcock moment', after a cast member said Fincher called it that; the Psycho identification is the speaker's.
    “Fincher would talk to him about his influence and be like, well, this is my Hitchcock moment.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ with Matt Singer (Ad-Free) · 1:18:07 · Matt Singer (0.35 sure it was them)

Stan Lee: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they were tied to as compared to Branagh as big, silly director: Stan Lee ⇒ Thor (the host's read). The Donald Blake identity came from Stan Lee's 60s devotion to the secret-identity trope; the movie keeps it only as a fake ID gag.
    “in the 60s, Stanley was a little slavishly devoted to like the classic superhero comic trope, so you needed a secret identity”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:08 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

Alien Resurrection (1997): 2 lines

  1. lineage (sequel undoes ending) · through Alien 3 (1992), which they were tied to as saw Fincher's cut and advised him: Alien 3 ⇒ Alien Resurrection (the host's read). Resurrection brings Ripley back as a clone, which undoes Alien 3's chosen death.
    “My nuclear take is bringing her back to life as a clone is more disrespectful than killing, uh, hicks and newt in this movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 2:06:26 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (sequel) · through Alien 3 (1992), which they were tied to as saw Fincher's cut and advised him: Alien 3 ⇒ Alien Resurrection (the host's read). Resurrection follows Alien 3, but its Ripley is a different character from the one who died.
    “As much as she was quote unquote resurrected, obviously, that's a different character explicitly.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ with Matt Singer (Ad-Free) · 0:24:13 · David Sims (0.30 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Directing (12) everyone in directing

Other (3) everyone in other

What was said about them, by kind

career (1)

  1. career (career): Kenneth Branagh → Joel Schumacher. Branagh is cast as this generation's Joel Schumacher, a big silly hammy director, which is meant as praise.
    “He's like, our generation's like Joel Schumacher.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:18:12 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

people (3)

  1. people (people): Joel Schumacher → 8mm. Roberts named Flatliners and Gandolfini named 8mm as their regrets; both are Schumacher films.
    “And then Julie Roberts said, oh, we both said Joel Schumacher movies.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · As Good as It Gets with Chris Gethard · 1:07:33 · Chris Gethard (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. people (people): A Time to Kill → Joel Schumacher. Schumacher directed A Time to Kill and The Client; more misses than hits.
    “Joel Schumacher, you know, he's got some hits and some misses”
    The Big Picture · Objection! Top 10 Courtroom Dramas | The Big Picture · 1:30:05 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. people (composer-director): Elliot Goldenthal → Joel Schumacher. Goldenthal scored the Schumacher Batman films.
    “I love his Joel Schumacher Batman scores.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ with Matt Singer (Ad-Free) · 2:00:04 · David Sims (0.30 sure it was them)

theme (1)

  1. theme (tonal comparison): Joel Schumacher → The Game. One host says The Game feels very Joel Schumacher.
    “Because the game feels very Joel Schumacher to me.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:40:56 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

unmapped (1)

  1. unmapped (attached then passed): The Crowded Room (unmade film) → Joel Schumacher. Schumacher first tried to make The Crowded Room with Pitt and kicked it to Fincher.
    “Joel Schumacher was also was first trying to make it, I think, with Pitt.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:40:43 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Fun items about them

  1. fun, about Joel Schumacher: After Fincher showed him the cut, Schumacher said aiming high means disappointment, and that caring puts you at the mercy of people who don't.
    “you put yourself in a position where they have more power than you because you care and they don't.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ with Matt Singer (Ad-Free) · 1:56:11 · Griffin Newman (0.30 sure it was them)