Jerry Goldsmith

Made films the shows talk about.

Counted as composer, the making department they hold the most credits in. The films the hosts said they scored, which the two lists below run through too: Alien (1979); Rudy (1993); The 13th Warrior (1999).

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Beowulf adaptations: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The 13th Warrior (1999), which they scored: Beowulf adaptations ⇒ The 13th Warrior (the host's read). The film is the Beowulf story told as Crichton's 'what was the real thing they were fighting' version.
    “Even going back to Crichton's original concept of like, what's the real story behind Beowulf?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The 13th Warrior with David Lowery (Ad-Free) · 0:25:39 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)

Eraserhead (1977): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Alien (1979), which they scored: Eraserhead ⇒ Alien (the host's read). The gooey animatronic creature work in Alien and later films may trace back to Eraserhead.
    “I mean, the thought that comes to mind is, um, alien.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Eraserhead (Ad-Free) · 1:29:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Michael Crichton: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The 13th Warrior (1999), which they scored: Michael Crichton ⇒ The 13th Warrior (the host's read). Lowery read the Crichton novel and found the film is the book almost scene for scene.
    “reading the book, I was like, this is pretty much just scene for scene exactly what's on screen.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The 13th Warrior with David Lowery (Ad-Free) · 0:19:51 · David Lowery (0.85 sure it was them)

Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope (1977): 1 line

  1. industry (industry) · through Alien (1979), which they scored: Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope ⇒ Alien (the host's read). In Star Wars' wake came Alien and Blade Runner rather than more 4-color space operas.
    “the Star Wars Halo effect are like alien.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Dune with John Hodgman · 1:13:21 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974): 1 line

  1. lineage (inspiration) · through Alien (1979), which they scored: The Texas Chain Saw Massacre ⇒ Alien (the host's read). Chainsaw is what inspired Ridley Scott to make Alien.
    “Texas Chainsaw Basker is what inspired Ridley Scott to make alien.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘The Texas Chain Saw Massacre’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:51:40 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

Alien 3 (1992): 2 lines

  1. lineage (callback) · through Alien (1979), which they scored: Alien ⇒ Alien 3 (the host's read). The Bishop remains scene echoes the original film's reactivated-android scene.
    “And just kind of a fun throwback to the, uh, original alien thing where you like take the puppet, you kind of get it ready.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 0:58:26 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (callback) · through Alien (1979), which they scored: Alien ⇒ Alien 3 (the host's read). The ending coda replays Ripley's tape from the first film.
    “You play back her tape from the end of the 1st movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 2:07:28 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)

Aliens (1986): 1 line

  1. lineage (sequel / genre shift) · through Alien (1979), which they scored: Alien ⇒ Aliens (the host's read). Cameron's sequel to Ridley Scott's film shifted the genre, which raised expectations for any follow-up.
    “some other fucking guy is coming in and making a sequel to Ridley Scott's movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ with Matt Singer (Ad-Free) · 0:50:21 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Jed Kurzel: 1 line

  1. craft (craft) · through Alien (1979), which they scored: Alien ⇒ Jed Kurzel (the host's read). Kurzel's score uses Jerry Goldsmith's notes from the first Alien but is its own thing.
    “it uses a lot of the Jerry Goldsmith notes”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Covenant · 1:47:50 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Outland (1981): 1 line

  1. contrast (contrast) · through Alien (1979), which they scored: Alien ⇒ Outland (the host's read). Outland tries to be Alien and does not connect; it is not as bad as The Black Hole.
    “it's not as bad as black hole, but it's it's trying, it's trying to be alien and it's not, it's just not connecting.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis · 3:16:53 · Brian Michael Bendis (0.50 sure it was them)

Species (1995): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Alien (1979), which they scored: Alien ⇒ Species (the maker said so). Giger thought Species ripped off too many other alien movies, such as the chest-burster.
    “He thought the movie ripped off too many other alien movies”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Species’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:12:56 · Bill Simmons (0.30 sure it was them)

Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma (2026): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Alien (1979), which they scored: Alien ⇒ Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma (the host's read). Ripley stripped to underwear at the end is a vulnerability beat that Miasma echoes.
    “Yes, it is echoed in Teenage Tech”
    The Big Picture · The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun! · 0:47:57 · Adam Nayman (0.50 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Music (4) everyone in music

What was said about them, by kind

contrast (1)

  1. contrast (contrast): Graeme Revell → Jerry Goldsmith. Original Arabic-influenced Revell score was replaced by a swelling medieval orchestral score from Jerry Goldsmith.
    “We're getting Jerry Goldsmith, who's like my guy and we'll give you swelling orchestral medieval music”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The 13th Warrior with David Lowery (Ad-Free) · 1:02:39 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

people (3)

  1. people (people): Michael Crichton → Jerry Goldsmith. Crichton, who took control of the cut, replaced Graeme Revell's score with one from Jerry Goldsmith, whom he called his guy.
    “We're getting Jerry Goldsmith, who's like my guy and we'll give you swelling orchestral medieval music”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The 13th Warrior with David Lowery (Ad-Free) · 1:02:39 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. people (people): Rudy → Jerry Goldsmith. The speaker owns the Rudy soundtrack on vinyl, by Jerry Goldsmith.
    “I own the soundtrack to Rudy on vinyl.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Nightmare Before Christmas with Michael Rianda (Ad-Free) · 2:29:32 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)
  3. people (same composer): Jerry Goldsmith → Rudy. Goldsmith scored Rudy, whose soundtrack the speaker just bought on vinyl.
    “Jerry Goldsmith, bang, a ton to bottom, bangers.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 2:18:36 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)

Fun items about them

None.