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lineage (lineage):
The Color of Money → The Hustler.
The Color of Money revisits Eddie Felson years later, with Paul Newman in his twilight and a new protege.
“Now we find Paul Newman bringing up like a new protégé.”
The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:47:28 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them) -
people (people):
The Color of Money → Martin Scorsese.
Scorsese and Richard Price made the Color of Money.
“And it's just like fucking Scorsese and Richard Price.”
The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained? · 1:47:32 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them) -
unmapped (mentorship):
The Color of Money → Paul Newman.
Cruise picked up tips on managing movie stardom from Paul Newman on The Color of Money.
“he picked up from the Paul Newmans of the world when appearing in the color of money.”
The Big Picture · The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame · 0:44:17 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career arc):
Top Gun → The Color of Money.
In the 80s and 90s Cruise paired a blockbuster with a critical film in the same year.
“Top Gun and Color Monster.”
The Big Picture · The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame · 0:45:12 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
people (auteur credit):
The Color of Money → Martin Scorsese.
Sean would speechify about Scorsese for 90 seconds if it were just two of them.
“I would probably speechify about Scorsese for 90 seconds”
The Big Picture · The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame · 0:53:14 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
lineage (sequel idea):
Jerry Maguire → The Color of Money.
A hypothetical Jerry Maguire 2 would work like The Hustler/Color of Money pairing.
“If it was like the hustle and the color of money and he returns to his Eddie Felson.”
The Big Picture · The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame · 1:10:35 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (legacy sequel):
Top Gun: Maverick → The Color of Money.
Top Gun: Maverick is doing the Eddie Felson-style return of an older character.
“Obviously, he's doing that with Top Gun right now.”
The Big Picture · The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame · 1:10:40 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
verdict (ranking):
Collateral → The Color of Money.
Forced to pick one, the hosts keep Collateral over The Color of Money for the Hall of Fame.
“Okay, well you choose.”
The Big Picture · The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame · 1:31:05 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career strategy):
The Last Temptation of Christ → The Color of Money.
The Color of Money was Scorsese showing he could work with stars and studios to make a hit.
“And then he makes color of money to be like, I can work with stars.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 0:51:14 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (Tom Cruise career):
Cocktail → The Color of Money.
Cruise should do a Color of Money legacy sequel instead of Days of Thunder or more racing movies.
“Do fucking color of money with a Kaylee Spainey or some shit.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 2:07:16 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (early old-Newman voice):
The Color of Money → Absence of Malice.
Absence of Malice marks the earliest time Newman plays an old man in the grave voice, with Color of Money as the later full version.
“Absence of malice feels to me like the earliest I can identify. He is playing old man.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:01:48 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
theme (thematic lesson):
Cars → The Color of Money.
The lesson of Cars and Color of Money is that excellence is in how you use it, not raw skill, and the hosts tie the tagline line to the film.
“And I would say the lesson of cars and the lesson of, uh, the color of money is, uh, it's in the way that you use it.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:10:27 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Color of Money:
Chris says the hosts' concept for a rep series: movies where you want to live the objectively stressful low life of the people in them.
“movies where you want to live the objectively, like, stressful low life of the people involved. Like you watch it and you're like, what's cooler than being a pool hustler who lives at bars?”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:10:58 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (continuing tragedy):
The Hustler → The Color of Money.
The Color of Money carries the original film's tragedy as backstory without explaining it in a monologue.
“And that's all the backstory for this movie, which is so interesting that he doesn't give the big monologue explaining what happened in the 1st film.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:12:13 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (sequel):
The Color of Money → The Hustler.
The Color of Money is the sequel to The Hustler, but built from a new script that keeps only the title of the Tevis sequel novel.
“Even when they start developing scripts and go, like, throw all that out, start fresh, they kept writing in parts from Minnesota fats.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:13:06 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
career (career enabler):
The Color of Money → The Last Temptation of Christ.
The paycheck-gig hit stabilizes Scorsese's career and makes Last Temptation and Goodfellas possible.
“Must admit though, it is the guarantor that allows him to immediately then make. Last temptation of Christ in Goodfellas.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:17:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (blank check scale):
The Color of Money → Gangs of New York.
Gangs of New York is Scorsese's true blank check, a nonfiction book about Bowery gangsters he wanted $100 million for.
“But that movie was so risky and he had tried to do it for so long, like his blank check is gangs of New York.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:18:50 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them) -
career (career-arc analogue):
The Color of Money → Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Raiders is cited as a comeback after the flop 1941; Color of Money is instead a stabilizer rather than a comeback.
“Like Raiders of the Lost Arc as a comeback post-1941 is a pure like he bottomed out and then he struck gold as hard as you possibly could.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:20:06 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (legacy-sequel precedent):
The Color of Money → Return to Oz.
Reddit consensus calls Color of Money the first legacy sequel, with Return to Oz as a debated earlier candidate dismissed as too weird.
“Uh, color money is generally agreed to on to be the 1st legacy sequel. Some people are like, does return to Oz count?”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:20:34 · David Sims (0.55 sure it was them) -
lineage (legacy-sequel precedent):
The Color of Money → Dawn of the Dead.
Another early sequel candidate that shares no characters, just a long gap and iconography.
“Dawn of the Dead kind of counts because it was a long, like, weight. between movies that like they don't have the same characters.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:20:55 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
career (career pivot):
The Color of Money → After Hours.
After Last Temptation failed in the early 80s, Scorsese made cheap After Hours to prove he could finish something, then took Color of Money.
“Uh, it fails and so he makes after hours as a sort of pivot out of that of like, I'll just do something.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:50:35 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
unmapped (shared coke energy):
After Hours → The Color of Money.
Both films feel like the sense memory of cocaine, from a director saying goodbye to it.
“That is also another movie, which is somehow not made on cocaine. Yeah. where it's just, but it is, it is the sense memory of cocaine.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:51:12 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (cocaine arc):
Goodfellas → The Color of Money.
Scorsese's cocaine-obsessed run culminates in Goodfellas and its helicopters; Color of Money is part of that goodbye.
“Yeah, it really culminates with the helicopters above Henry. Right. And then it's like goodbye to cocaine.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:51:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
people (origin of collaboration):
Raging Bull → The Color of Money.
Newman watched Raging Bull on Ovitz's recommendation and wanted to work with Scorsese.
“Paul Newman watches Raging Bull on, I guess Ovid's his recommendation and says, like, that's one of the best things I've ever seen.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:53:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (packager):
Michael Ovitz → The Color of Money.
Ovitz engineered the Newman-plus-Scorsese pairing, nudging Newman to write a letter and nudging Scorsese toward a commercial project.
“I know he's an artiste. He's probably not going to want to do like a commercial thing. So I'm going to try and like nudge him towards something commercial.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 0:55:45 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (sequel script comparison):
The Color of Money → Rocky II.
The original Tevis-based script, a two-hander with Fats in Florida, would have been more by-the-book, like Rocky II or Creed II.
“It's more going by the book, right? It's like Rocky 2.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:06:13 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (legacy-sequel heirs):
The Color of Money → Top Gun: Maverick.
Gap-based legacy sequels like Top Gun Maverick, Tron Legacy and Blade Runner follow the template Color of Money invented, though in 1986 sequels were derided.
“now we get more and more like your your Tron legacies and your Top Gun Mavericks, where it's just casually... 37, 40 years later”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:07:05 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (production overlap):
The Color of Money → Top Gun.
Cruise shot Top Gun first, then this, then did Top Gun reshoots (shower scene, shadowy love scene) because his hair had grown out.
“he shoots Top Gun first, then shoots this, and then has to go back and do reshoots for Top Gun.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:15:47 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Color of Money:
Cruise went turbo on prep, trying a jump-ball shot that would take days; the hosts speculate it's what he regrets, and Cruise has dinner with Scorsese's parents nightly.
“Uh, Cruz like has dinner with them every night. You know, he really loves Marty.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:18:51 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Color of Money:
Production trivia: Scorsese's one film that came in under schedule and budget ($13M under $14.5M) to prove a point; shot 10 weeks, locations in Chicago after New York pool halls were gone and Toronto was too clean.
“It's the only time he did that in his career and it felt like he needed to do that to prove a point.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:19:25 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Michael Ballhaus → The Color of Money.
The host's dossier notes the bounce lights Ballhaus used to light the film.
“But, you know, there's a lot of stuff here about, you know, the kind of bounce lights he used.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:21:03 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Michael Ballhaus → The Color of Money.
Ballhaus keeps the camera moving in roughly seven of every ten shots, which suits Scorsese.
“Like, Bauhaus is like, I think out of every, like, 7 out of every 10 shots, the camera's moving.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:21:24 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
craft (camera-movement coverage):
The Color of Money → Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Scorsese covers scenes with morphing moving master shots, like Spielberg's quick efficient coverage, to stay under schedule.
“But he's doing like all this Spielberg, like coverage with camera movement.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:21:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
career (career-arc analogue):
The Color of Money → 1941.
Spielberg's lean style forged by 1941 failure is compared with Scorsese compressing his shoot to regain trust.
“That's always been a famous, uh, Spielberg thing, that he's so forged in the failure of 1941 that he adopts that style for Raiders”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:22:10 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
people (boxing/pool cinematography):
The Color of Money → Raging Bull.
Boxing is the most cinematic sport because it is contained; billiards is an even tinier version of that.
“A thing, I'm sure we've talked about extensively, on a raging bull episode, but billiards is like an even tinier version of that.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:23:06 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
contrast (baton-passing contrast):
Top Gun: Maverick → The Color of Money.
Cruise keeps making baton-pass movies where he refuses to pass the baton; Maverick saves Teller instead of elevating him.
“Also, the fact that Cruz keeps making baton pass movies where he refuses to pass the baton.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:31:55 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Color of Money:
The opening is a Scorsese voiceover about cigarette imagery; the hosts say it makes them want to drink and smoke and become a hustler.
“The most grotesque and also the most beautiful image of a cigarette. where you're like, I gotta have that.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:38:25 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Color of Money:
The spectator pool-hall chair, an elevated wooden throne also called a shoeshine or lifeguard chair, which one host asked for in the studio.
“Elevated wooden throne that overlooks so that you get like a good angle on the action. It's technically known as a spectator.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:43:09 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
contrast (tonal contrast):
The Color of Money → The Verdict.
In both films Newman is battered yet hot, but pool hustler reads as cool while The Verdict makes the loser life look sad.
“In this one, it's like, you're like, air pool player, that's cool. And the verdict, you're like, wow, you you suck.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:46:17 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
craft (set-design / visual):
The Color of Money → The Verdict.
Both are ranked on the podium of burnished-wood movies.
“I call that the greatest burnished wood movie of all time. This one has a, but this is in on the podium with that.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:47:47 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
theme (video-game movie parallel):
The Color of Money → The Last Starfighter.
Vincent's obsession with an arcade game that supposedly sharpens his skills is compared with the game in The Last Starfighter.
“What was the video game in Last Starfighter?”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:49:00 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (world-sharing):
The Color of Money → Tron.
The Tron arcade cabinet in Vincent's game room makes the film feel set in the Tron world; both Disney.
“obviously the Tron cabinet was like real and was more successful than the movie and stayed in arcades for years, but it does make it feel like this is a movie that takes place in the world of Tron.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:49:23 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (manager/partner dynamic):
The Hustler → The Color of Money.
The original is about the partnership he lost and the flashier partner who destroyed him; Eddie's interest in Vincent and Carmen echoes it.
“the sort of tragedy of him fucking up the partner he had who he valued and felt safe with and then getting fucked by the new flashier partner who like destroys his life”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:52:07 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (long opening set piece):
The Hustler → The Color of Money.
Both films open with a transfixing, sustained 20-30 minute chunk in one space.
“All of that is basically a sustained like 20 minute chunk of the movie, much like the hustler, where you're just really staying in this space and the dynamics of all of it.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:53:41 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (family link):
Lorraine Bracco → The Color of Money.
Mastrantonio's character's sister in the dinner scene is played by Lorraine Bracco's sister (as said).
“But, um, that's Lorraine Brocko's sister.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 1:56:34 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (scene highlight):
The Color of Money → Werewolves of London scene (pool hall).
The Werewolves of London sequence is called the film's Flight-of-the-Valkyries-problem peak at around minute 55, a transcendent set piece the movie cannot match afterward.
“the flight of the Valkyries problem in a movie, when it peaks to her, when you peak at minute 55.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:10:22 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (peaks early):
Apocalypse Now → The Color of Money.
Apocalypse Now is the example of a film whose best sequence arrives in the middle, so the viewer stops watching around 65 minutes.
“Everyone's like, I love apocalypse now. Of course, I always stop watching about 65 minutes.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:10:52 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (multiple transcendent scenes):
Goodfellas → The Color of Money.
Goodfellas has several transcendent scenes (like the Copacabana and the shine box) so it stays satisfying, unlike Color of Money's single peak.
“Goodfellas is an interesting comparison point because it has like 4 of these.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:12:22 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Robbie Robertson → The Color of Money.
Robertson's early dub-style music work on the film is singled out as the fun part of the Werewolves of London sequence.
“Early Robbie Robertson, like, dubmaster stuff going on here where... The Robbie stuff in this is so fun.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:13:17 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
people (script vs director choice):
Richard Price → The Color of Money.
The script said James Brown but Scorsese substituted Werewolves of London, showing the difference between Price and Scorsese.
“In the script, it's James Brown. So that's it's supposed to be James Brown, not Werewolves of London.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:13:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Clapton → The Color of Money.
Clapton plays through the pool hall PA before the film cuts to Werewolves of London.
“it's like digetic, so it's like playing through a PA system at the pool hall and they're playing Clapton.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:13:51 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
unmapped (song choice):
Warren Zevon → The Color of Money.
Werewolves of London plays in the pool hall scene; Chris prefers Zevon's self-titled second album as the best rock album of the 70s.
“His 2nd album, Warren Zvon, is the greatest rock album of the 70s.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:14:52 · Chris Ryan (0.55 sure it was them) -
unmapped (the loser mentality):
The Hustler → The Color of Money.
George C. Scott calls Eddie a loser in The Hustler; Whitaker's hustle in Color of Money undoes the same insecurity.
“That's what undoes him when the Forrest Whitaker character in color of money beats him is he's like basically like, I've uncovered the old wound”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:19:30 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
people (cameo):
Iggy Pop → The Color of Money.
Iggy Pop appears as the credited skinny player on the road.
“Fantastic Iggy Pop. as credited as skinny player on road.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:33:52 · David Sims (0.35 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Color of Money:
The film turns into an advertisement for optometry once Eddie gets glasses and his problems clear.
“And then this movie turns into a sort of an advertisement for optometry because it turns out that a lot of his problems were just that he needed a prescription glass.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:42:36 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
theme (ending/aging parallel):
The Color of Money → Slap Shot.
Both films play Newman's age as a strength, battered but still the hottest thing, and end with a nonconventional, self-satisfying triumph rather than a big win.
“not unlike Slapshot, where the movie's culmination is, I'm going to take all my clothes off and skate around in circles.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:43:46 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them) -
theme (ending analogy):
The Color of Money → Rocky IV.
The private Eddie-Vince final game is likened to Rocky versus Apollo Creed in private.
“and gives Vince the money back and is like, you know, let's do, it's like Rocky versus Apollo Creed in private.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:53:28 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Color of Money:
The original title was As Good as It Gets; the ending is praised as haunted rather than resolved.
“and the original title for this movie was as good as a guest.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:55:24 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (Oscar gold watch):
The Color of Money → The Verdict.
The Oscar for Color of Money is treated as a gold-watch win after the Verdict snub, awarded the year after his honorary Oscar.
“This is kind of one of the most famous gold watch Oscar wins, right? They give it to him the year after they give him the lifetime achievement award.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:57:18 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (Oscar rival):
Mona Lisa → The Color of Money.
Bob Hoskins's Mona Lisa was the critical favorite and won the Globe, making Newman's Oscar win a surprise on the night.
“Huskins and Mona Lisa is the better performance, right? Taking on its own. incredibly good performance.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 2:58:56 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (dismissed-at-the-time):
The Color of Money → The Untouchables.
Both got tepid, popcorn-fluff reviews at release despite being directed by great filmmakers.
“It feels very akin to the untouchables to me, where you read those reviews and you're like, it's more summer popcorn fluff.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 3:05:48 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (box office rival):
The Color of Money → Crocodile Dundee.
Color of Money opened number two in October 1986; Crocodile Dundee was the year's number one hit.
“Number one at the box office. is a film we've covered, one of the biggest hits of 1986.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 3:09:47 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (box-office neighbor):
The Color of Money → Tough Guys.
Number five on the 1986 box office list, an old-guy gangster comedy with Kirk Douglas and Burt Lancaster.
“It's called tough guys. Tough guys. And it's Kirk Douglas. And the other one is Burt Lancaster?”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Color of Money with Chris Ryan · 3:12:20 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
career (career sequence):
After Hours → The Color of Money.
After this, Scorsese finally gets an unqualified hit with The Color of Money; next episode.
“After this, Martin Scorsese finally has an unqualified hit.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 2:25:53 · unknown host (0.40 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
Edge of Tomorrow → The Color of Money.
Same point: the earlier Cruise plays the guy who has the moves; Edge has him work for them.
“not this guy has all the moves.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Edge of Tomorrow · 0:20:55 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Tom Cruise → The Color of Money.
Question for Cruise: does he still have his pool skills from The Color of Money, and the bottle flip from Cocktail.
“Is he still good at pool from color?”
The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 0:58:17 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
theme (theme):
F1 → The Color of Money.
Color of Money shows billiards as the most exciting cinematic thing; so racing movies work better than racing.
“if you watch Color of Money, you're like, Billiards is the most exciting cinematic thing”
The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:08:56 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
F1 → The Color of Money.
Color of Money handles the old-dog/new-dog handover best, which F1's ending does not.
“So the best version of this, to me that's ever been done in this old dog, new dog thing.”
The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:56:48 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
career (career bridge):
After Hours → The Color of Money.
The camera moves of After Hours carry into Color of Money's pool table, tied to Ballhaus; both lead to Goodfellas.
“that same thing, that camera is flying across the pool table.”
The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:30:24 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
unmapped (channel idea):
A Bronx Tale → The Color of Money.
A gambling-movie channel idea (FanDuel TV) would air films like The Color of Money and gambling scenes.
“So like the color of money.”
The Rewatchables · ‘A Bronx Tale’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan · 1:04:44 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Forest Whitaker → The Color of Money.
Whitaker went toe to toe with Newman in The Color of Money in the mid-80s.
“going toe to toe with Newman.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:03:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Tom Cruise → The Color of Money.
Cruise trained in billiards for The Color of Money like Travolta trained for the dance floor.
“he like really has trained in billiards, so he's actually good at it.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Saturday Night Fever’ With Bill Simmons and Jimmy Kimmel · 0:41:20 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Color of Money:
In the 1986 Quigley poll of most marketable stars, Cruise was number one and Newman tenth, his last appearance; Newman made it 13 times before 1986. The narrative was Cruise taking the torch.
“Cruz was number one in 1986 when this movie came out. Newman was 10th. It was his last appearance.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Color of Money’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:02:14 · Bill Simmons (0.85 sure it was them) -
industry (Oscar context):
The Color of Money → The Verdict.
Newman lost for The Verdict in a brutal year (Hoffman in Tootsie, Kingsley in Gandhi) then won in 1987 against a weaker slate.
“In 87 when they give out the 86 Oscars. You know, it's it's a much weaker slate”
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theme (character arc):
The Color of Money → The Hustler.
Eddie in The Hustler is a loser and drunk with broken thumbs, an anti-hero rather than a golden god, unlike Cruise's Vincent.
“What do we know about Eddie Felson from the Hustler is he's a loser.”
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industry (Oscar context):
The Color of Money → Cool Hand Luke.
Newman was nominated for Cool Hand Luke in a stacked 1968 lineup that Rod Steiger won.
“Cool Hand Luke is the most iconic, I think, of all of those parts.”
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verdict (career ranking):
The Color of Money → Slap Shot.
Only Butch Cassidy, Cool Hand Luke, The Verdict and Slap Shot rank above this among Newman's films for the speaker.
“I think only Butch Cassidy, cool hand Luke, the verdict and slapshot would come ahead of color money for it.”
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unmapped (rewatchability):
The Color of Money → Raging Bull.
Chris has watched this more often than Raging Bull or The Last Temptation of Christ.
“I've watched it probably more than Raging Bull.”
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people (writer-director fusion):
Richard Price → The Color of Money.
Price, Scorsese and Newman each count as authors; Newman hired the director and badgered Price to keep fixing the script.
“He hired the director. He badgered Richard Price to fix stuff, make stuff better”
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unmapped (directorial constraint):
The Color of Money → Panic Room.
Both directors were handed a confined, mundane space and responded with showy camera flourishes.
“it reminds me a little of panic room with Fincher.”
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career (career context):
The Color of Money → Absence of Malice.
Newman's early-80s over-the-hill roles (The Verdict, Absence of Malice) led into choosing this role.
“he had already been doing over the hill parts for like 5 or 6 years.”
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fun, about
The Color of Money:
Newman was hands-on: he effectively cast it, hired the director, and badgered Richard Price. It's Scorsese's only film to come in under schedule and under budget.
“Scorsese's only film he has directed that came under schedule and under budget because Newman was a maniac about it.”
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fun, about
The Color of Money:
Roger Ebert gave it 2.5 stars, saying it wasn't an exciting film even though Scorsese was a friend; the hosts disagree but respect his integrity.
“And it's not an exciting film. It doesn't have the electricity, the wound up tension of his best work.”
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what-if (what-if):
James Brown → The Color of Money.
A host says Price's script had James Brown, not Werewolves of London, as the song for Vincent's dance scene.
“Well, in the script itself, it's James Brown. Price has it as James Brown.”
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fun, about
The Color of Money:
In the script, the song Vince dances to is James Brown, not Warren Zevon.
“Well, in the script itself, it's James Brown.”
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career (career breakout):
The Color of Money → Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
In 1986 audiences knew Forest Whitaker only as the guy from Fast Times, and this was his 'I'm on the map' part.
“hey, the guy from Fast Times. That was the reaction”
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craft (directorial style):
The Color of Money → The Wolf of Wall Street.
Same Scorsese fast-cutting montage-with-music technique appears in both.
“We also talked about it years ago and we did Wolf of Wall Street.”
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craft (directorial style):
The Color of Money → The Departed.
The fast-cutting montage with a blues soundtrack explosion in the Grady Seasons scene is a Scorsese move they also discussed on The Departed and Wolf of Wall Street.
“This like super fast cutting montage blues soundtrack explosion thing that he does”
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craft (craft):
Robbie Robertson → The Color of Money.
A host praises Robbie Robertson's score as excellent.
“Robbie Robertson's score is excellent.”
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craft (craft):
Eric Clapton → The Color of Money.
A host says the Clapton song playing before Werewolves of London is great and gets the audience hyped, even if 80s Clapton has aged unevenly.
“that song is when they're playing that before werewolves of London, you're just like getting so hype.”
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craft (craft):
Robert Palmer → The Color of Money.
A host is in on the two Robert Palmer songs used in the film and calls 70s Palmer underrated.
“I'm in on the 2 Robert Palmer songs used in this movie.”
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craft (craft):
Don Henley → The Color of Money.
A host calls the Henley song in the film cheesy post-Eagles Henley but enjoyed it.
“Cheesy post Eagles Henley, but at the same time, I enjoyed it.”
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fun, about
The Color of Money:
Streetlights pass Newman's windshield in time to Werewolves of London as he drives to Chalkey's; also no camera is visible in the final scene's room of mirrors.
“the fucking street lights go past in the windshield, like in time to the music.”
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lineage (callback):
The Color of Money → The Hustler.
The mentoring conversation Newman has with Vince and Carmen mirrors the one George C. Scott has with Newman in The Hustler; both films also go on the road.
“that's basically the George C. Scott has the same conversation with Paul Newman and the Hustler.”
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lineage (sequel/continuation):
The Color of Money → The Hustler.
Newman's Eddie Felson in 1986 becomes the George C. Scott hustler-mentor character of the original, and the sequel answers rather than remakes it.
“the Newman character in the color of money becomes the George C. Scott character in the Hustler.”
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lineage (callback):
The Color of Money → The Hustler.
Newman getting drunk and hustled by Amos is the first time he plays the Jackie Gleason role of the original, drunk and overconfident.
“it's basically the 1st time he plays Jackie Gleason and the hustler where he's just like wasted and thinks he's going to win and then gets gets hustled.”
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fun, about
The Color of Money:
What ages worst: the fictional video game Stalker and the 1980s pool-star cameos (Steve Mizerak, Keith McCready) that were a big deal then.
“I knew who Steve Mahalik was and some of these other dudes”
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fun, about
The Color of Money:
Bill's theory on why pool left TV: the best players were the people you least wanted to hang out with, like Phil Hellmuth in poker.
“the people who were the best at pool were people you just didn't want to hang out with when you were watching TV”
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craft (visual tone):
The Color of Money → Trading Places.
Men waving cash in each other's faces at a bar feels very Trading Places.
“it's like very trading places where it's just dudes waving shit in each other's faces.”
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craft (craft):
Warren Zevon → The Color of Money.
A host wonders whether Warren Zevon was really big at Chalkey's and why Werewolves of London was on the jukebox.
“was Warren Zevon big at Chalkey's for real? Like, why was that on the box? Why was that on the jukebox?”
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