Blank Check — Patreon: Captain America: The Winter Soldier

Published 2019-05-01; 2:26:41 by the feed.

As extracted (engineer-sonnet-2026-10-13)

The extraction calls the show “Blank Check with Griffin & David (Patreon)” and the episode “Captain America: The Winter Soldier”.

Hosts: Griffin Newman, David Sims. Guests: Ben Hosley (producer, in the room).

Subject films: Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014).

On the transcript: Commentary track with timestamps drifting from the film; heavy tangents (Mulaney/Draft Day, Wolverine casting, Netflix films). Speaker attribution is mostly guesswork because there are no labels.

Added from the extractor's memory, not said

Batroc/Georges St-Pierre not named in transcript; only Batroc is.
Ten Little Indians is the alt title of Sabotage; Team America 'buck o' five' reference not named in transcript.
The Russos' first film 'Pieces' (transcript says 'you be in debris') is from memory.

Films that came up

Claims (102)

industry (industry): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Iron Man 3. Marvel kept the logo fanfare off Iron Man 3, which used a blue joke.
“Obviously, in Iron Man 3, it doesn't really happen because they do the blue joke, right?”
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industry (industry): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Michael Giacchino. The logo fanfare began with Dark World; the host credits Giacchino.
“Yeah, Through the Dark World, the 1st one with like the Giacchino fanfare and all of that.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:03:22 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
industry (industry): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Marvel Studios logo. Disney avoided the castle logo; Marvel made its own fanfare.
“I remember people being like, are they going to put like the Disney Castle before Marvel movies?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:03:31 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
contrast (contrast): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Captain America: The First Avenger. The first film is stylized like an old serial; this one is a grounded Washington thriller.
“And the 1st Captain America is so heightened and stylized because it's doing the old cereal thing.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:04:21 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
craft (craft): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → The Hurt Locker. The opening Sam Wilson veterans-group scene plays like Hurt Locker-style soldier-readjustment material.
“So this is all kind of nice like Hurtlocker stuff.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:04:50 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
craft (craft): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → LEGO Marvel Avengers (video game). The opening boat sequence is replicated as a level in the LEGO game and works as a good video-game level.
“It is that this sequence is replicate as a level in Marvel, Lego, the Avengers.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:09:28 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
career (career): Frank Grillo → Red Box movies. Grillo reliably headlines low-budget films shot in places like Moldova.
“Frank Gorillo is like, he's like the king of like what red box movie, right?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:10:00 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Frank Grillo → The Purge: Anarchy / The Purge: Election Year. Grillo is the king of Redbox movies and hero of two Purge films.
“he is the hero of 2 Purge movies.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:10:09 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
career (career): Frank Grillo → Warrior. Grillo is a good character actor, seen in Warrior.
“He's in Warrior.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:10:17 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
career (career): George Nolfi → The Adjustment Bureau. Nolfi was on the director shortlist because he had just made The Adjustment Bureau, which suggested he could do a noir.
“Who had just made the Adjustment Bureau, so I suppose they're thinking like he could make a Noari movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:11:43 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
what-if (what-if): F. Gary Gray → Captain America: The Winter Soldier. F. Gary Gray was one of the other shortlisted directors; the host finds his action work not a favorite.
“I've never been the biggest fan of his action, like, big, big action filmmaking or whatever, but whatever.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:13:17 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
programming (programming): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Iron Man 3. Marvel gives each film a different genre; Winter Soldier is the political thriller, Iron Man 3 the noir/buddy film.
“Right. So this is when they're like, Iron Man 3 is sort of like a noir and like a buddy film, Dark World is like high fantasy.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:14 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
programming (programming): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Thor: The Dark World. Dark World is the high-fantasy entry in the same one-genre-per-film scheme.
“Dark World is like high fantasy.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:14 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
lineage (lineage): Ed Brubaker → Captain America: The Winter Soldier. The film adapts the Brubaker Winter Soldier comic arc.
“They wanted to take the Ed Brubaker Winter Soldier Arc, which is one of the most famous Captain America Arcs.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:25 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
craft (craft): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Henry Jackman. The composer's score is one that a host listens to all the time.
“I listen to this score all the time for some reason.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:59 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
contrast (contrast): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Iron Man 2. Black Widow's hair is her worst here, though Iron Man 2 hair is worse; her performance is more alive here.
“Iron Man 2 hair is bottom of the barrel.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:15:36 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
verdict (verdict): Scarlett Johansson → Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Her performance is livelier here than before.
“I think her performance in this is so much more alive.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:15:53 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
programming (programming): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Marvel Cinematic Universe. Fury is in charge of SHIELD only in this film and Avengers; afterward mostly cameos.
“So this is only the only other movie where Fury is like in charge of S.E.L.D. and kind of just like in the movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:16:47 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
theme (theme): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Rainbow Six. The film is a mission-based, strategy-driven blue-collar entry in the franchise, like Rainbow Six.
“Rainbow six.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:19:16 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
industry (industry): Kevin Feige → Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Feige gave the filmmakers free rein provided they used the Helicarrier set piece.
“Like, I'm going to give you a lot of free reign.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:19:31 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
lineage (lineage): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Three Days of the Condor. The Russos and Marcus/McFeely were told they could make a Three Days of the Condor style political thriller inside the MCU, provided Feige got his Helicarrier back.
“You want to do a 3 day of the Condor movie?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:19:33 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
industry (industry): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → The Avengers. The Helicarrier was so expensive in Avengers that Feige wanted multiple uses out of it, hence its role here.
“we spend so much fucking money on that Avengers hella courier.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:19:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
theme (theme): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Captain America: Civil War. The idea of Cap as someone with values who distrusts his government is what Civil War is about.
“Because that's what civil war is about.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:20:29 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
unmapped (anecdote): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Draft Day. The two films were shooting in Cleveland at the same time; Griffin was an actor on Draft Day.
“So they were filming this movie at the same time in Cleveland, Ohio, and the suburbs outside of Cleveland that we were filming a motion picture called Draft Day.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:20:47 · Griffin Newman (0.80 sure it was them)
career (career): Hayley Atwell → Agent Carter. A host wants Agent Carter back, on Disney+.
“I want Agent Carter to come back.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:22:51 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
industry (industry): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → digital de-aging. Disney invests R&D in de-aging; Peggy's aged face looks like a Snapchat filter.
“Like Disney is like, we're putting money into fixing deaging.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:23:24 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Anthony and Joe Russo → Steven Soderbergh. Soderbergh saw their Slamdance film and gave them a career, helping set up Welcome to Collinwood.
“So then he helps them set up welcome to Colinwood.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:25:37 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): George Clooney → Welcome to Collinwood. Clooney produced the Russos' second film with Soderbergh.
“Clooney produces it with Soderberg.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:25:46 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
industry (industry): You, Me and Dupree → Wedding Crashers. Dupree did weirdly well riding the post-Wedding Crashers comedy wave.
“Does weirdly well because it's that post-wedding crashers thing.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:25:56 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
lineage (lineage): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Three Days of the Condor. The filmmakers say outright they were making a Condor movie.
“But they're like, we're like, we're making a 3 days of the Condor movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:27:10 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
people (people): Robert Redford → Three Days of the Condor. Casting Redford was a deliberate evocation of the Condor and gave the MCU a stamp of legitimacy because he never made movies like this.
“it felt like a secondary stamp of legitimacy because this is the type of actor who never did fucking movies like this.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:27:17 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Anthony and Joe Russo → Arrested Development. The Russos directed the Arrested Development pilot, which invented a kind of comedy.
“They directed the Arrested Development Pilot, which basically is like inventing a kind of comedy.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:28:01 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Anthony and Joe Russo → Community. They directed the Community pilot and the paintball episode.
“Well, not only did they direct the community pilot, they directed the paintball episode, which was huge.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:28:09 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Anthony and Joe Russo → Happy Endings. They also directed the Happy Endings pilot.
“They also did like the happy endings, pilot.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:28:24 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
people (people): Steven Soderbergh → Anthony and Joe Russo. Soderbergh vouched for them to Marvel: big nerds with the tools.
“I think these guys got the tools.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:28:54 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
industry (industry): Anthony and Joe Russo → TV directors. Marvel could trust the TV directors to keep things on budget.
“They're TV guys, they know how to like maintain, you know?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:29:06 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
verdict (verdict): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Anthony and Joe Russo. Of the Russos' three theatrical films this is the most distinctive.
“This is, I mean, of their 3 movies, this is the one that's the most distinctive.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:29:13 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
career (career): Anthony and Joe Russo → Captain America: Civil War. A host feels the Russos' later films suffer from TV-director flow, while Infinity War is good.
“my problem with the later Russo movies is I think you fall a little bit into like this, this is being a TV director, you know?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:29:17 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
verdict (verdict): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Avengers: Infinity War. A host defends Infinity War as a classic take.
“I think Infinity War is good though.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:29:37 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
theme (theme): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Deep State. The film is a betrayal-of-the-deep-state movie, which affects how Fury is played.
“this is like the betrayal of, you know, the deep state movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:30:34 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
programming (programming): Samuel L. Jackson → Captain Marvel. Hosts are excited to see Jackson as a younger Nick Fury again.
“Can't wait for him to do stuff again in like Captain Marvel and shit.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:34:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
people (people): Chris Evans → Kevin Costner. Evans has a young Costner-like all-American profile.
“Evans kind of has a young Costnery sort of profile.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:36:19 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
what-if (what-if): Emily VanCamp → Alison Brie. It came down to VanCamp or Alison Brie for Agent 13.
“It was like essentially down to Van Camper, Alison Brie, for this role.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:37:27 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
people (people): Emily VanCamp → Chris Pratt. VanCamp dated Pratt through Everwood, where they played siblings.
“Yeah, they dated for almost the entirety of Everwood, in which they played. Brother and sister.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:38:10 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
career (career): Cobie Smulders → How I Met Your Mother. A host sold a friend on The Avengers via Smulders from HIMYM.
“selling her on the Kobe smolders of it all because she was cheap into how I met your mother”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:41:59 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
people (people): XXX: State of the Union → Lee Tamahori. Described as an Aline Tamahori joint (Lee Tamahori).
“Aline Tamahori joint, am I right?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:43:13 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Samuel L. Jackson → XXX: State of the Union. Jackson's fake death here echoes his fake death in the second XXX movie as Gibbons.
“And it's almost the same as this where he was like, pretend to be dead so he could lay low.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:43:31 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Robert Redford → Spy Game. Redford in Spy Game, directed by Tony Scott, is liked by a host.
“I like him in spy game.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:45:50 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
people (people): Spy Game → Tony Scott. Spy Game is a Tony Scott film.
“Tony Scott.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:45:54 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Robert Redford → The Devil's Own. Redford is paired with Pitt in a late-career film.
“Like devil's own.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:45:55 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Robert Redford → Charlotte's Web. Redford voices Ike the horse; one host insists he is good in it.
“He's Ike the horse.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:46:53 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
lineage (lineage): Robert Redford → New Hollywood. Redford brings New Hollywood legitimacy to the MCU.
“A fucking great old oak tree of like New Hollywood, right?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:48:34 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
people (people): Robert Redford → Sydney Pollack. Pollack was the one director who knew how to work with Redford, working with him many times.
“that's one guy who knows how to work with him.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:49:03 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Robert Redford → Sundance. Redford started the independent film festival out of disgust with the industry.
“He starts independent film festival because he's like, fuck this industry.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:49:07 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Chris Evans → Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Evans almost did not become Captain America; he tried hard not to sign.
“he tried so hard not to sign up for this.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:50:53 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Chris Evans → Sunshine. Evans is great in Danny Boyle's Sunshine.
“Right, great in that movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:51:41 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Danny Boyle → Chris Evans. Boyle was the first director to fully crack Evans as a screen presence.
“Like, Boyle was the 1st guy to fully crack it.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:51:43 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
people (people): Sunshine → Rose Byrne. Everyone in Sunshine is good and Rose Byrne is amazing.
“I think Rose Byrne's amazing in America.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:52:22 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
lineage (lineage): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → 70s paranoid thrillers. The bunker scene has a creepy empty-bureaucracy look from the 60s and 70s.
“the sort of like creepy, empty bureaucracy aesthetic, you know, the very 60s, 70s”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:02:53 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
lineage (lineage): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → The X-Files. The abandoned-office SHIELD bunker is like an X-Files episode.
“X-Files has a lot of episodes like this where they're like, what's this abandoned office”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:03:03 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
theme (theme): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → A Night at the Garden. The Zola/Hydra "infiltrate quietly" speech is likened to a documentary short about a 1939 American Nazi rally.
“Hydra is a dog whistle for you.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:08:31 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
what-if (what-if): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Heat. Redford finally sharing a scene with the Winter Soldier is likened to Pacino and De Niro in Heat.
“This is kind of like Pacino and De Niro finally meeting in heat.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:10:53 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Robert Redford → The Candidate. Redford was the summer soldier in The Candidate, a joke on the movie's title.
“Of course, the summer soldier was in the candidate.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:11:03 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
career (career): Robert Redford → Pete's Dragon. Redford is great in Pete's Dragon.
“He's great in Pete's Dragon.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:11:25 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Gary Shandling → The Larry Sanders Show. A viewer who loved Shandling from Larry Sanders was baffled to see him in this movie.
“She's like, what's Larry Sanders doing?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:16:17 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
programming (programming): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Iron Man 2. Gary Shandling's Hydra senator is an odd pull-back to Iron Man 2 for a franchise otherwise ignoring that film.
“when they're like trying to ignore as much of Iron Man 2 as possible”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:16:27 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
career (career): Gary Shandling → The Zen Diaries of Garry Shandling. Miss Shandling; a host has not watched the documentary because it would make them sad.
“I got to watch the Zendaris.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:16:42 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
unmapped (trivia): Gary Sinise → Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Sinise narrates the Captain America museum exhibit.
“Did you know that Gary Sinise narrates the Captain America Museum in this movie?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:27:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
career (career): Mads Mikkelsen → Arctic. Mikkelsen stars in Arctic, a survival film, and Polar in the same month.
“Arctic is him and the survival apparently pretty good.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:29:27 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
lineage (lineage): Polar → John Wick. Polar is a John Wick ripoff.
“Polar is a John Wick ripoff.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:29:31 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
contrast (contrast): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Suicide Squad. Polar makes Suicide Squad look tame.
“This movie makes Suicide Squad look like...”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:29:49 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
craft (craft): Polar → They Live. A long sex scene in Polar is compared to the endless fight in They Live.
“That is like the fight in... The Carpenter movie that just goes on and on and on.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:30:21 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
career (career): Robert Redford → All Is Lost. Redford is the only actor, so nothing can shoot without him; he is idiosyncratic about his schedule.
“And he's the only actor in that movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:32:35 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
programming (programming): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Agents of S.H.I.L.E.L.D.. The TV show had to stall its whole first season because the film's Hydra reveal could not be tipped.
“Of course, the 1st season of SHIELD began in 2013 and had to essentially stall for almost its entire 1st season because they knew that this was coming, but they couldn't tip it.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:34:33 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
programming (programming): Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. → Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Marvel then told ABC SHIELD would not exist for the film universe.
“Just so you know, Shield's not going to exist enough.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:34:59 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
people (people): Anthony Mackie → Chris Evans. Mackie has better chemistry with Evans than Stan does.
“They have better chemistry.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:36:12 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
career (career): Alan Dale → The O.C.. Dale is the villain from The OC and a minor character in Lost, now alongside Redford.
“He's like, but I'm the villain from the OC in a minor character in Lost, and here I am next to fucking Robert Redford.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:37:43 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
career (career): Alan Dale → Neighbors. Another actor recalled from Australian soap Neighbors.
“It was a guy on Neighbors, the Australian sitcom.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:37:50 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
people (people): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Community. Danny Pudi appears as a Community callback to the Russos.
“We got Pooty here for a little community callback or whatever.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:38:01 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
career (career): Bernard White → Silicon Valley. White appears in Silicon Valley.
“You know, he's in Silicon Valley.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:39:01 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
career (career): Bernard White → The Matrix Revolutions. White is also the girl's father in Matrix Revolutions.
“Matrix Revolutions, baby.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:39:09 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
theme (theme): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Snowden / NSA. The Insight project plays as post-Snowden surveillance fear.
“I guess they were like making the point of like, oh, it's like post Snowden.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:43:56 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
what-if (what-if): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Avengers (1970s). Dream of a 70s period Avengers with de-aged cast.
“I want them to move backwards in time and make like a 70s Avengers.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:44:40 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
what-if (what-if): Blade → Blade. Fantasy of 70s Blade in a 70s Avengers.
“How great would it be if they were blade back into the MCU, but it was like 70s blade exclusively?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:45:05 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
what-if (what-if): Jared Leto → Morbius. Sarcastic enthusiasm for Leto in Sony's Morbius.
“I am so excited for Jared Leto as Morbius.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:45:35 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
contrast (contrast): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Avengers: Infinity War. Pierce's plan is compared to Thanos's, defended as a meta commentary on the MCU being too big.
“the Thanos thing is boring in theory, but it's great when you realize he's actually just saying this Marvel cinematic universe has gotten too big.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:50:07 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
what-if (what-if): Tom Hardy → next Wolverine actor. Fans keep fan-casting Tom Hardy as the next Wolverine; the host wants a short actor.
“I feel like everyone's be like, oh, but Tom Hardy should play Wolverines.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:52:15 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
what-if (what-if): Hugh Jackman → next Wolverine actor. Time for a new Wolverine in 2019.
“I mean, I think Jackman had his good run, but now it's 2019, like cast an actor.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:52:43 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
contrast (contrast): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Captain America: The First Avenger. The Helicarrier finale in the old suit feels like the first film's underwhelming finale.
“I mean, the 1st Captain America certainly does have an underwhelming finale.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:58:08 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
what-if (what-if): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Black Widow. Black Widow should be lower-budget R-rated.
“I wonder what the Black Widow movie's going to be like.”
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programming (programming): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Disney+ Falcon and Bucky show. Smaller side-character projects are the future on Disney Plus.
“That feels like what Disney Plus is going to be with the like Falcon and Bucky show and the Scarlet Wish show.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:59:18 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
programming (programming): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Loki. The Loki show hired a Rick and Morty writer; time-traveling premise.
“have you heard the premise of the Loki show and they hired a Rick and Morty writer?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:59:26 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
industry (industry): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Wonder Woman. Marvel can present a first female-led MCU film as a milestone even after Wonder Woman.
“Marvel is so big that it can actually pretend that's a milestone.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:02:44 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
contrast (contrast): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → DC Extended Universe. Marvel's strategy is a bulletproof success; DC's is a shambles.
“whereas the DC strategy has been a shambles.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:03:13 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
industry (industry): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Black Panther. Black Panther is the highest grossing Marvel movie domestically.
“The fact that Black Panther is the highest grossing Marvel movie domestically, ever.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:04:13 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
what-if (what-if): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Captain America: Civil War. Hosts wish the film universe had played the fugitive A-team angle.
“They're like an A team or something.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:06:55 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
industry (industry): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Captain America: Civil War. Civil War piggybacked on the Cap brand instead of smaller spy-on-the-run films.
“Yeah, the problem with Civil Wars, they're like, let's use the cap movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:06:59 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
what-if (what-if): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Enemy of the State. The ending sets up an enemy-of-the-state fugitive team the host wishes had gotten smaller movies.
“riding the rails, enemy of the state, former shield, sort of that they're teeing up at the end of this movie”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:07:08 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
programming (programming): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Avengers: Age of Ultron. Ultron resets Captain America's status quo ahead of Civil War.
“Well, it's because Age of Ultron also sort of resets Captain America a little bit.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:09:22 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
career (career): Thomas Kretschmann → Avengers: Age of Ultron. Kretschmann's Strucker is a charismatic tiny role in Ultron.
“I really enjoy him in Ultron, even though it's a tiny role where he's like, I'm going to surrender.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:11:20 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
programming (programming): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Avengers: Age of Ultron. The post-credits scene sets up the twins and Strucker's experiments.
“You know what they're setting up here, Benny.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:12:03 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
craft (craft): Captain America: The Winter Soldier → Henry Jackman. The score has a recurring cue that plays whenever Bucky is thinking, which a host finds a lazy way to underline his pondering.
“It's what this soundtrack does anytime Bucky is thinking.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:18:25 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (unclear) (0.40 sure it was them)

Fun items (35)

fun, about Captain America: The Winter Soldier (opening): Opening scene drops Falcon in as a human-scale, no-plot behavioral intro; praised as a smart character-building start.
“Great way to drop Falcon into someone who's like, look, I know you're Captain America.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:03:57 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about Batroc the Leaper: Marvel flexing: the silliest Cap villain gets a grounded version, jumpsuit color scheme kept, mustache toned down.
“We're going to pick the silliest Captain America villain of all time.”
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fun, about The Winter Soldier (boat sequence): The opening boat raid is replicated as a LEGO game level; praised as stealth/puzzle video-game structure.
“It is that this sequence is replicate as a level in Marvel, Lego, the Avengers.”
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fun, about Nick Fury (elevator operator speech): Fury talks about his grandfather's elevator job and neighborhood decline; white flight reading.
“This scene, this scene is interesting, where Samuel Jackson talks about his grandfather working as an elevator operator.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:17:43 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about Draft Day: The anecdote that the movie was shot at a Cleveland community college while Cap shot the Winter Soldier nearby.
“I just like, we shot the majority of that movie in Cleveland community college.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:21:32 · Griffin Newman (0.80 sure it was them)
fun, about Peggy Carter (digital aging scene): Early digital aging; face moves weirdly, like a Snapchat filter.
“It looks it looks like a fucking Snapchat filter.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:24:30 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
fun, about Nick Fury car chase: The Jeep can normally fly; the implication is it is plan C.
“I just love that too, where like, The implication is like, normally this Jeep can fly.”
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fun, about Draft Day: Griffin says he was billed above Chadwick Boseman on the call sheet, the first, last and only time.
“And as I've said, is the first, last and only time I will ever be above Chadwick Boseman on a call shape.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:34:07 · Griffin Newman (0.75 sure it was them)
fun, about Seinfeld / that's got to hurt: Car-crash joke triggers the Costanza movie-theater laugh-line episode (repeated later).
“while he goes to see an action movie and he keeps on explaining to like Elaine and to Kramer and Jerry, how much the audience laughed at his that's got to hurt.”
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fun, about Winter Soldier: Intro: rips a door off with the robot arm.
“Maybe I'll rip it off with my robot arm.”
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fun, about Steve Rogers's apartment: Ben remembers only that Cap has a nondescript apartment; the hosts riff on the lease application.
“I love how what he remembers is that Captain America has a nondescript apartment with like at least 3 rooms.”
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fun, about Steve's apartment: Social security number joke.
“Social security number 0000001.”
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fun, about XXX: State of the Union: Anecdote of a friend and the speaker running through an empty theater yelling the character is alive.
“Derek and I got up and started running around the theater screaming the gibbets is still alive.”
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fun, about Elevator fight: The elevator fight opening line is called a great Evans movie-star delivery.
“That's a great Chris Evans movie star delivery.”
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fun, about Elevator fight: Briefcase handcuffs are cool, and the movie is one of the best magnet movies.
“I love those briefcase handcuffs.”
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fun, about Tommy Lee Jones (Captain America photo): Jones appears only as a wall photo; imagined as unaware of the first film.
“And he was like, yeah, sorry, never saw the original.”
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fun, about Detective Pikachu: Griffin's script sides replaced "Pokemon" with "Pooch" for secrecy.
“They replaced Pokemon with Pooch.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:05:22 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)
fun, about Armin Zola: Zola is a Rubik-like man with a TV belly and camera head; the old computer design is loved.
“Armanzola is like a rub it man where his belly's a TV screen and his head is a camera.”
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fun, about Zola scene: Old computers had doors you could walk into.
“You could just walk inside them.”
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fun, about Robert Redford: Casual reveal as villain; drinks milk.
“I love that he's drinking milk.”
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fun, about Gary Shandling (Hail Hydra): Called one of the most iconic scenes in the MCU; Shandling reveal as Hydra.
“This is like one of the most iconic scenes in the Marvel syndic universe.”
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fun, about Max Rebo: Tangent theory that the Max Rebo figure is mis-built: he is sitting on a cushion and plays with his feet.
“In fact, that is the cushion under Max Rebo.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:18:34 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about Winter Soldier: Robot-arm bit: pushes elevator buttons firmly.
“He doesn't have to push the button for the elevator twice.”
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fun, about Batroc the Leaper: Later the Winter Soldier's leaping is joked to owe royalties to Batroc.
“He writes Batch Rock a Royalties check.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:23:19 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about Batroc the Leaper: Chuck Berry / Elvis analogy for Batroc and Cap.
“That truck is kind of like the Chuck Berry to Captain America's Elvis, right?”
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fun, about Robert Redford: Imagining Redford shooting a scene with a robot man; waiting on his newspaper.
“It's just kind of funny to think that Robert Redford filmed this scene.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:31:49 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about Jared Leto: Joke list of Leto reboots.
“Do you remember that rumor they were like, they're gonna remake it as a Jared Lito vehicle?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 1:46:13 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
fun, about Plane/black box joke: The "why not make the plane from the black box" joke is dissected as the hackiest joke.
“Why don't they make the whole plane out of that material?”
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fun, about Wolverine casting: Hosts hunt for a short actor: Seth Green, Peter Falk, Jerry Stiller.
“Please let it be a short guy.”
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fun, about Hella carrier finale: Finale feels less effective floating on a CGI fortress.
“The movie was so much more effective for me when it was like not on like a CGI floating fortress.”
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fun, about Nick Fury: Fury ends up living in a storage locker.
“Yeah, he lives in a storage locker.”
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fun, about Captain America: The Winter Soldier: Release: opened to 95, 46% increase over First Avenger's 65.
“This one opens to 95.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:13:38 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
fun, about Post-credit scene: Bucky at the museum; deemed the single worst post-credit scene.
“I think this is the single worst post-credit scene.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:17:56 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)
fun, about Ben Hosley's Letterboxd: Ben has logged one film: The Amazing Spider-Man 2, "bored and fell asleep".
“I got bored and fell asleep.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:22:46 · Ben Hosley (0.50 sure it was them)
fun, about Blank Check March Madness: Prediction: John Carpenter will win.
“I can already tell you who's going to win, and that's John Carpenter.”
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Who's talking

Griffin Newman (host): Marvel completist who loves the series' smaller character beats (Agent Carter, Peggy, Falcon, Sam Jackson's Fury) and defends Infinity War. Loves action built from hand-to-hand fights and movie-star dialogue scenes. Allergic to bad-faith villain motives and to the cheap CGI leaps. Suckers for old tech, spy-bureaucracy aesthetic and New Hollywood stars.
David Sims (host): Press-screening veteran who found Winter Soldier merely fine at release; likes political-thriller texture and Redford's calm, character acting. Dislikes Marvel villains who justify genocide with logic. Loves Samuel L. Jackson, spy-game lineage and the Russos' TV pilots.
Ben Hosley (guest): Ben Hosley, the show's producer. A casual viewer who barely remembers the film (he only remembers Cap's apartment and the cold base) and likes simple pleasures like hand-to-hand fights and magnets. Not a Marvel obsessive; fronts as the straight man whom the hosts try to impress.

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Names the transcriber got wrong

Foggy = Kevin Feige
Batchrock/Bat Truck/Betrock the Leaper = Batroc the Leaper
Armanzola/Armin Zola = Arnim Zola
Hella carrier = Helicarrier
Sidney Pollock = Sydney Pollack
Aline Tamahori = Lee Tamahori
Jamie Colette Sarah = Jaume Collet-Serra
Casbury = Alison Brie (guess)
Kobe smolders = Cobie Smulders
Gary Shamlin/Chandler = Gary Shandling
Marcus and McFeely = Markus and McFeely
Jenny Gutter = Jenny Agutter
Helen Dale = Alan Dale
Danny Putin/Pootie = Danny Pudi
Tomlin Jones = Tommy Lee Jones
Gardens of Galaxy = Guardians of the Galaxy
Trent Opalak = Trent Opaloch
Callen Mulvey = Callan Mulvey
Gumo and Flat = likely a Ben favorite film title (unclear)
Jamie/Jackman = Henry Jackman

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