Spider-Man (2002)
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Wikidata Q484442, film, IMDb tt0145487, TMDB 557: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by episode credits Stan Lee as Marvel creator; watched Spider-Man (2002) with Bendis (Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis); 4 more episodes agree.
Also said as Spider-Man (Raimi) (2002): the same Wikidata item, so listed here.
What a model would be handed about it, for corpus:ask.
Who talked about it
Blank Check with Griffin & David
- Brian Michael Bendis: 2 lines in Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis
- Griffin Newman: 2 lines in An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens · Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis
- Unattributed: 4 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Blank Check — Patreon
- Unattributed: 4 lines, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
The Big Picture
- Micah Peters: 2 lines in ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey (Ep. 108)
- David Shoemaker: 1 line in The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35)
- David Sims: 1 line in The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims
- Sean Fennessey: 1 line in ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey (Ep. 108)
- Unattributed: 1 line, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
The Rewatchables
- Bill Simmons: 1 line in ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey
- Unattributed: 1 line, the speaker unknown or under 0.5 sure.
Came from
What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Darkman: 1 line the host's read ×1
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lineage (lineage):
Darkman ⇒ Spider-Man (the host's read).
Raimi's Spider-Man strengths start in Darkman.
“all the stuff that is cool about the Remy Spider-Man movies starts here”
The Big Picture · The 1990 Movie Draft · 1:31:21 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Steve Ditko and Stan Lee: 1 line the host's read ×1
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lineage (lineage):
Steve Ditko and Stan Lee ⇒ Spider-Man (the host's read).
Ditko and Lee made Spider-Man a teen hero for younger readers, not yet accepted by the Avengers or Fantastic Four.
“I mean, like it was Steve, uh, Ditco and Stanley basically making a character that appealed to younger readers.”
The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey (Ep. 108) · 0:09:39 · Micah Peters (0.80 sure it was them)
Led to
What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.
No line says another film or person drew on it.
Connected to
Avatar: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (industry):
Avatar → Spider-Man.
A month after Avatar, Sony announced the Raimi Spider-Man 4 would not happen and the series would be recast.
“They announced that they are recasting Toby Maguire and resetting Spider-Man, not doing Sam Raimi Spider-Man 4 a month after Avatar comes out.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 0:45:57 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Darkman: 1 line lineage ×1
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lineage (lineage):
Darkman → Spider-Man.
Raimi's Spider-Man strengths start in Darkman.
“all the stuff that is cool about the Remy Spider-Man movies starts here”
The Big Picture · The 1990 Movie Draft · 1:31:21 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
David Koepp: 1 line people ×1
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people (people):
David Koepp → Spider-Man.
Koepp, who wrote Panic Room, also wrote Spider-Man (2002).
“By the way, also written by David Kepp, Spider-Man.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:40:51 · Sean Fennessey (0.45 sure it was them)
Elya Baskin: 1 line unmapped ×1
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unmapped (rent guy):
Spider-Man → Elya Baskin.
Baskin plays Mr. Ditkovich, the rent guy, in Spider-Man.
“he's the rent guy from Spider-Man.”
Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:34:40 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Gladiator: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (release-date history):
Spider-Man → Gladiator.
Gladiator showed May could open a movie; Spider-Man made May the preferred month.
“Spider-Man has the biggest weekend of all time in May, and then I think officially may becomes the month you want to release it.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens · 1:47:41 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
Hellboy: 1 line craft ×1
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craft (craft):
Spider-Man → Hellboy.
The best superhero movies tie the origin to the villain and arc, as in Spider-Man's Green Goblin and Hellboy's Nazis.
“the best superhero movies that have ever been made or the ones in where the origin story is tied in directly to the arc of the movie”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:30:39 · David Shoemaker (0.50 sure it was them)
Miles Morales: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (theme):
Miles Morales → Spider-Man.
Spider-Man was created as a relatable everyman who was white, which capped the idea that anyone could be under the mask; Miles fulfills it.
“like, so that kind of puts a cap on the like, it could be anyone underneath the mask.”
The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey (Ep. 108) · 0:10:07 · Micah Peters (0.80 sure it was them)
Panic Room: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (industry):
Panic Room → Spider-Man.
2002 box office: Panic Room made $96M domestically in a year when things changed, a Spider-Man year.
“but also the year when things change, because this is a Spider-Man year.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:40:25 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
Raiders of the Lost Ark: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (industry):
Raiders of the Lost Ark → Spider-Man.
The big 2002 superhero films were limited by effects budgets in action; Raiders felt like it exceeded what was possible.
“this is more movie than you thought was previously possible.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis · 2:41:04 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them)
Sam Raimi: 1 line what-if ×1
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what-if (director hired instead):
Spider-Man → Sam Raimi.
Sony passed on Fincher and hired Raimi, in keeping with wanting a director with a take.
“you look at them ultimately hiring Raimi and really letting him go off.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 0:46:05 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Steve Ditko and Stan Lee: 1 line lineage ×1
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lineage (lineage):
Steve Ditko and Stan Lee → Spider-Man.
Ditko and Lee made Spider-Man a teen hero for younger readers, not yet accepted by the Avengers or Fantastic Four.
“I mean, like it was Steve, uh, Ditco and Stanley basically making a character that appealed to younger readers.”
The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey (Ep. 108) · 0:09:39 · Micah Peters (0.80 sure it was them)
The Last Temptation of Christ: 1 line people ×1
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people (actor persona):
The Last Temptation of Christ → Spider-Man.
Dafoe's cursed-villain/old-coot career is the through-line from Norman Osborn to Jesus.
“Wilm Defoe gets used so much now the last 25 years as a villain and or an old coot.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 0:02:53 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Thor: The Dark World: 1 line people ×1
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people (people):
Thor: The Dark World → Spider-Man.
Running Tony Lip joke: he played every person on the rail car in Raimi's Spider-Man.
“People forget that Tony Lip played every single person on the rail car in the 1st Raimi Spider-Man.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:18:21 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Willem Dafoe: 1 line theme ×1
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theme (persona):
Willem Dafoe → Spider-Man.
Dafoe's mania under a calm surface links Norman Osborn and his Jesus.
“There is a little mania inside that guy.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 0:42:24 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
X-Men: 1 line industry ×1
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industry (industry):
Spider-Man → X-Men.
Early superhero films ran out of action money, like the first X-Men.
“that's what the 1st X-Men movie is.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis · 2:41:41 · Brian Michael Bendis (0.50 sure it was them)
Where it came up
- passing in Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie, first at 0:00:52, 4 times
- compared in Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis, first at 2:41:19, 8 times
- passing in Blank Check with Griffin & David · An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens, first at 1:47:24, 2 times
- passing in Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park, first at 1:27:28, 3 times
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘My Cousin Vinny’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Wesley Morris, first at 0:19:26, 1 time
- passing in The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey, first at 0:40:25, 2 times
- passing in The Big Picture · The Top 10 Fantasy Films, The Toy Movie Hall of Fame, and ‘Masters of the Universe,’ with Griffin Newman!, first at 0:29:16, 1 time
- compared in The Big Picture · The 1990 Movie Draft, first at 1:31:21, 1 time
- passing in The Big Picture · ‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained?, first at 0:11:26, 1 time
- passing in The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims, first at 0:45:57, 4 times
- passing in The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35), first at 0:30:57, 2 times
- anecdote in Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free), first at 0:40:24, 5 times
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact, first at 0:34:40, 1 time
- anecdote in Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World, first at 1:18:21, 2 times
- passing in Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2, first at 2:02:15, 1 time
What was said about it, by kind
craft (1)
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craft (craft):
Spider-Man → Hellboy.
The best superhero movies tie the origin to the villain and arc, as in Spider-Man's Green Goblin and Hellboy's Nazis.
“the best superhero movies that have ever been made or the ones in where the origin story is tied in directly to the arc of the movie”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:30:39 · David Shoemaker (0.50 sure it was them)
industry (5)
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industry (industry):
Raiders of the Lost Ark → Spider-Man.
The big 2002 superhero films were limited by effects budgets in action; Raiders felt like it exceeded what was possible.
“this is more movie than you thought was previously possible.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis · 2:41:04 · Griffin Newman (0.60 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Spider-Man → X-Men.
Early superhero films ran out of action money, like the first X-Men.
“that's what the 1st X-Men movie is.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis · 2:41:41 · Brian Michael Bendis (0.50 sure it was them) -
industry (release-date history):
Spider-Man → Gladiator.
Gladiator showed May could open a movie; Spider-Man made May the preferred month.
“Spider-Man has the biggest weekend of all time in May, and then I think officially may becomes the month you want to release it.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · An Angel at My Table with Dana Stevens · 1:47:41 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Panic Room → Spider-Man.
2002 box office: Panic Room made $96M domestically in a year when things changed, a Spider-Man year.
“but also the year when things change, because this is a Spider-Man year.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:40:25 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Avatar → Spider-Man.
A month after Avatar, Sony announced the Raimi Spider-Man 4 would not happen and the series would be recast.
“They announced that they are recasting Toby Maguire and resetting Spider-Man, not doing Sam Raimi Spider-Man 4 a month after Avatar comes out.”
The Big Picture · The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims · 0:45:57 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
lineage (2)
-
lineage (lineage):
Darkman → Spider-Man.
Raimi's Spider-Man strengths start in Darkman.
“all the stuff that is cool about the Remy Spider-Man movies starts here”
The Big Picture · The 1990 Movie Draft · 1:31:21 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
Steve Ditko and Stan Lee → Spider-Man.
Ditko and Lee made Spider-Man a teen hero for younger readers, not yet accepted by the Avengers or Fantastic Four.
“I mean, like it was Steve, uh, Ditco and Stanley basically making a character that appealed to younger readers.”
The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey (Ep. 108) · 0:09:39 · Micah Peters (0.80 sure it was them)
people (3)
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people (actor persona):
The Last Temptation of Christ → Spider-Man.
Dafoe's cursed-villain/old-coot career is the through-line from Norman Osborn to Jesus.
“Wilm Defoe gets used so much now the last 25 years as a villain and or an old coot.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 0:02:53 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
people (people):
David Koepp → Spider-Man.
Koepp, who wrote Panic Room, also wrote Spider-Man (2002).
“By the way, also written by David Kepp, Spider-Man.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:40:51 · Sean Fennessey (0.45 sure it was them) -
people (people):
Thor: The Dark World → Spider-Man.
Running Tony Lip joke: he played every person on the rail car in Raimi's Spider-Man.
“People forget that Tony Lip played every single person on the rail car in the 1st Raimi Spider-Man.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:18:21 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
theme (2)
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theme (persona):
Willem Dafoe → Spider-Man.
Dafoe's mania under a calm surface links Norman Osborn and his Jesus.
“There is a little mania inside that guy.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 0:42:24 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
theme (theme):
Miles Morales → Spider-Man.
Spider-Man was created as a relatable everyman who was white, which capped the idea that anyone could be under the mask; Miles fulfills it.
“like, so that kind of puts a cap on the like, it could be anyone underneath the mask.”
The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey (Ep. 108) · 0:10:07 · Micah Peters (0.80 sure it was them)
unmapped (1)
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unmapped (rent guy):
Spider-Man → Elya Baskin.
Baskin plays Mr. Ditkovich, the rent guy, in Spider-Man.
“he's the rent guy from Spider-Man.”
Blank Check — Patreon · 2010: The Year We Make Contact · 0:34:40 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
what-if (1)
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what-if (director hired instead):
Spider-Man → Sam Raimi.
Sony passed on Fincher and hired Raimi, in keeping with wanting a director with a take.
“you look at them ultimately hiring Raimi and really letting him go off.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 0:46:05 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Fun items about it
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fun, about
Spider-Man:
Church fight praised: no fight in the movie lasts over 90 seconds, which keeps it brutal and real.
“It's just brutal and direct. bang, bang.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie · 0:02:04 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Spider-Man:
Bendis first saw Spider-Man on an AV cart in Sam Raimi's office with Stan Lee beside him, who left saying he wrote 126 issues and the rest were Bendis's.
“I wrote 126 issues of Spider-Man, they're all yours.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis · 2:43:28 · Brian Michael Bendis (0.90 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Spider-Man:
Box office kid memory: the 1997 four-day Memorial Day opening stood until Spider-Man hit 114 million, after Harry Potter fell just short at about 95-96.
“Spider-Man did 114.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · The Lost World: Jurassic Park · 1:27:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Spider-Man:
Joke that this is the 101st Spider-Man movie.
“So this is the 101st Spider-Man movie.”
The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey (Ep. 108) · 0:01:22 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Spider-Man:
Running Tony Lip joke: he supposedly played every person on the subway rail car in the first two Raimi Spider-Man films.
“People forget that Tony Lip played every single person on the rail car in the 1st Raimi Spider-Man.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 1:18:21 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
Who the speakers said made it
As said on the shows, not checked against the real credits.
- James Cameron: named among the auteurs wanted for it (Blank Check — Patreon, Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free))
- Willem Dafoe: actor (Norman Osborn) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie)
- Sony: studio that wanted Fincher for it (Blank Check — Patreon, Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free))
- David Fincher: attached director (Sony's first choice, not hired) (Blank Check — Patreon, Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free))
- David Koepp: writer (The Rewatchables, ‘Panic Room’ (Plus a Mini Will Smith–Oscars Recap) With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
- Sam Raimi: director (Blank Check with Griffin & David, The Last Temptation of Christ with Jamelle Bouie)
- Sam Raimi: director (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis)
- Sam Raimi: director (cancelled Spider-Man 4) (The Big Picture, The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims)
- Sam Raimi: director Sony hired (Blank Check — Patreon, Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free))
- Stan Lee: Marvel creator; watched Spider-Man (2002) with Bendis (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis)
- Toby Maguire: actor (The Big Picture, The Great ‘Avatar’ Debate with Blank Check’s Griffin Newman and David Sims)
- Elya Baskin: Mr. Ditkovich (Blank Check — Patreon, 2010: The Year We Make Contact)