Oliver Stone

Speaks on the shows. Their sketches and lines as a speaker.

Wikidata Q179497: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by Wikidata joins them to W., which 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished credits them on.

Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: American Psycho (2000); Planet of the Apes (2001); Pinkville. Count them as director (17 films), writer (2 films), producer (1 film) instead.

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Planet of the Apes (1968): 2 lines

  1. contrast (inversion) · through Planet of the Apes (2001), which they were tied to as paid producer/co-writer on an Apes script: Planet of the Apes ⇒ Planet of the Apes (the host's read). The remake opens on a loud, leafy backlot set while the original opens in an empty desert with no apes for a long stretch.
    “They totally invert the original movie where the original movie starts in the middle of nowhere.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:53:06 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage) · through Planet of the Apes (2001), which they were tied to as paid producer/co-writer on an Apes script: Planet of the Apes ⇒ Planet of the Apes (the host's read). Burton's ending tries to outdo the Statue of Liberty reveal of the original.
    “Because they're trying to outdo the reveal of like the Statue of Liberty at the end.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:39:14 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)

Body Double (1984): 1 line

  1. lineage (satire lineage) · through American Psycho (2000), which they were tied to as nearly directed American Psycho with DiCaprio: Body Double ⇒ American Psycho (the host's read). American Psycho is described as the Reductress version of Body Double.
    “it's almost like the, the, you know, reductress version of, um, body double in a way.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Star 80 with Julie Klausner · 1:07:36 · Julie Klausner (0.50 sure it was them)

Dogville shorts (1930s-40s live-action dog shorts): 1 line

  1. industry (studio instinct) · through Planet of the Apes (2001), which they were tied to as paid producer/co-writer on an Apes script: Dogville shorts (1930s-40s live-action dog shorts) ⇒ Planet of the Apes (the host's read). Fox just wanted apes doing human things, like the old Dogville shorts with dogs at restaurant tables.
    “And it feels like Fox just wanted to make that.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:12:43 · unknown (0.45 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

Bear City (SNL digital short): 1 line

  1. unmapped (parody) · through Planet of the Apes (2001), which they were tied to as paid producer/co-writer on an Apes script: Planet of the Apes ⇒ Bear City (SNL digital short) (the host's read). An SNL short riffs on Apes with bears who just wear human clothes and mimic humans, like the apes keeping the Lincoln Memorial.
    “they were riff on Plan of the Apes, where the bears got smart and they decided to kill all the humans.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 1:24:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Ben Younger: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · them, directly: Oliver Stone ⇒ Ben Younger (the host's read). Koppelman notes Stone did the Wall Street story first and Younger went after it with limited resources.
    “Oliver Stone did it first, but Ben Younger went after this.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Margin Call’ With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman · 0:25:01 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)

Margin Call (2011): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · them, directly: Oliver Stone ⇒ Margin Call (the maker said so: Brian speaking about his own writing). Oliver Stone is as big an influence on Brian's dialogue as anybody but Mamet.
    “Oliver Stone's big an influence on the way that I write dialogue as anybody but Mammoth.”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 1:09:43 · Brian Koppelman (0.65 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Directing (41) everyone in directing

Other (3) everyone in other

Writing (2) everyone in writing

Producing (1) everyone in producing

What was said about them, by kind

contrast (3)

  1. contrast (contrast): Aaron Sorkin → Oliver Stone. Stone's dark skepticism contrasts with Sorkin's idealism, both committed to their missions.
    “He's an interesting counterweight, I think, to Oliver Stone”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 0:30:43 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. contrast (contrast): The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Oliver Stone. Chicago 7 raises the question of whether entertainment can justify itself on politics, as with Stone's films.
    “as I said before about Oliver Stone and all of his other things, I think there's an interesting question here, like, is this movie entertaining enough to justify itself”
    The Big Picture · Aaron Sorkin Top 5s and ‘The Trial of the Chicago 7’ · 1:35:58 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
  3. contrast (contrast): Oliver Stone → Jackie Chan. Both have thorny personal politics that would enter episode discussion.
    “Both Jackie Chan and Oliver Stone have thorny personal politics.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · March Madness 2021 Recap - Round 2 · 0:39:16 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

lineage (3)

  1. lineage (lineage): Ben Younger → Oliver Stone. Koppelman notes Stone did the Wall Street story first and Younger went after it with limited resources.
    “Oliver Stone did it first, but Ben Younger went after this.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Margin Call’ With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman · 0:25:01 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): Margin Call → Oliver Stone. Oliver Stone is as big an influence on Brian's dialogue as anybody but Mamet.
    “Oliver Stone's big an influence on the way that I write dialogue as anybody but Mammoth.”
    The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 1:09:43 · Brian Koppelman (0.65 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (lineage): Oliver Stone → Robert Zemeckis. Alex Ross Perry views Stone as the only real successor to Zemeckis in bracket terms.
    “who I view as the only real successor to Demi and Zameckis.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · March Madness 2021 Recap - Round 2 · 0:34:34 · Griffin Newman (0.30 sure it was them)

people (1)

  1. people (director): Wall Street → Oliver Stone. Wall Street is Oliver Stone's movie; Stone is not among the speaker's favorites in the Stone episode.
    “it's not my favorite as we've when we did our stone episode, it's not really high for me personally.”
    The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 11 - 'The Wolf of Wall Street’ · 0:42:55 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

theme (1)

  1. theme (theme): Oliver Stone → Robert Zemeckis. Stone's reclamation might be coming like Zemeckis's late-career surge, but too early.
    “Stone might be due for a reclamation at some point”
    Blank Check — Patreon · March Madness 2021 Recap - Round 2 · 0:36:55 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

unmapped (2)

  1. unmapped (unmade script): Oliver Stone → Planet of the Apes. Stone wrote a script about frozen apes holding the Bible's secret numeric codes and was paid a million dollars.
    “Jesus, Oliver Stone said, it has the discovery of chronologically frozen Vedic apes who hold the secret numeric codes to the Bible that foretold the end of civilizations.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Planet of the Apes with Matt Singer · 0:46:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (fun): Oliver Stone → Natural Born Killers. Griffin promised to be shirtless in vest and purple wraps for Natural Born Killers.
    “for natural born killers I would be shirtless with just a vest and some purple round sunglasses.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · March Madness 2021 Recap - Round 2 · 0:36:02 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Fun items about them

  1. fun, about Oliver Stone: Stone met Bush at a Yale graduates event a year before the 2000 election and felt he was being controlled by others.
    “There was a sense of a brainwashed president, I'd say, everything was very programmed, like a Manchurian candidate.”
    The Big Picture · 5. ‘No Country for Old Men’ and ‘W.’ | Mission Accomplished · 0:00:44 · Oliver Stone (0.90 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Oliver Stone: Stone defined the 80s and 90s; Alex Ross Perry campaigned but is not on Twitter.
    “the man defines the 80s in so many ways.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · March Madness 2021 Recap - Round 2 · 0:35:42 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)