Joel Kinnaman

Made films the shows talk about.

Counted as actor. The films the hosts said they acted in, which the two lists below run through too: The Killing (1956); RoboCop (1987); Snabba Cash (2010); The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011); Suicide Squad (2016); Altered Carbon (2018); For All Mankind (2019); For All Mankind (TV series).

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Avatar (2009): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through RoboCop (1987), which they acted in: Avatar ⇒ RoboCop (the host's read). The robot-waking sequence is beat for beat the first act of Avatar, down to testing the new body's powers.
    “It is crazy actually how much this sequence is like beat for beat, the Avatar, right?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · RoboCop (2014) · 0:38:34 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Batman Begins (2005): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through RoboCop (1987), which they acted in: Batman Begins ⇒ RoboCop (the host's read). The remake is part of the grounded-and-serious wave that followed Nolan; the speakers say this film marks the end of it.
    “The Batman begins effect.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · RoboCop (2014) · 0:47:48 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Blue Velvet (1986): 1 line

  1. unmapped (quoted line) · through The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011), which they acted in: Blue Velvet ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read). The fuck-you-you-fucking-fuck shirt is believed to originate from Dennis Hopper's line in Blue Velvet.
    “Hopper says that in blue velvet.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:24:04 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Clean Break (novel): 1 line

  1. lineage (adaptation) · through The Killing (1956), which they acted in: Clean Break (novel) ⇒ The Killing (the host's read). The film is the screen version of the novel Clean Break.
    “Clean Break was the name of the book.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:05:46 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Deadpool (2016): 1 line

  1. industry (industry) · through Suicide Squad (2016), which they acted in: Deadpool ⇒ Suicide Squad (the host's read). Suicide Squad felt reactive to Deadpool's success.
    “Suicide Squad felt like it was very influenced by the success of Deadpool”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:29:25 · Jason Concepcion (0.40 sure it was them)

Flesh and Blood (1985): 1 line

  1. career (career) · through RoboCop (1987), which they acted in: Flesh and Blood ⇒ RoboCop (the host's read). Flesh+Blood is the failure that led Verhoeven to Hollywood and RoboCop, where he built entertainment around his interests.
    “from this film on, he figures out how to take everything he's interested in and put it into the body of a conventionally entertaining Hollywood movie”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Flesh+Blood · 0:49:14 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Stanley Kubrick: 1 line

  1. unmapped (drew on his chess life) · through The Killing (1956), which they acted in: Stanley Kubrick ⇒ The Killing (the host's read). The speaker says the movie comes out of Kubrick's chess life in several ways.
    “I love how much this movie comes out of Kubrick's chess life in multiple ways.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 0:09:39 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them)

Stieg Larsson: 1 line

  1. lineage (adaptation) · through The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011), which they acted in: Stieg Larsson ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read). The film is Zaillian's abridged adaptation of Larsson's novel, which loses nothing major.
    “I think this is an excellent piece of adaptation that does not really, like, skip anything major.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:49:09 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Sven Nykvist: 1 line

  1. craft (visual reference) · through The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011), which they acted in: Sven Nykvist ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the maker said so). Someone on the shoot (Fincher, or the DP by the garbled name) wanted a Sven Nykvist look: warm fires, cold rooms.
    “I wanted to do a whole Sven Nikfist thing”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 1:11:05 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009) (2009): 1 line

  1. lineage (remake) · through The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011), which they acted in: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Swedish, 2009) ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read). The Fincher film is the American remake of the Swedish original; its director says he was not worried.
    “Everyone who loves film will go see the original.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:54:19 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

The Social Network (2010): 1 line

  1. people (casting led to) · through The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011), which they acted in: The Social Network ⇒ The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (the host's read). Pascal saw the dailies from The Social Network and picked Rooney Mara for Lisbeth Salander.
    “Pascal basically sees the dailies from this movie and is like, Rooney Morris, Elizabeth Salander.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:59:02 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

The Wizard of Oz (1939): 1 line

  1. craft (craft) · through RoboCop (1987), which they acted in: The Wizard of Oz ⇒ RoboCop (the host's read). The training-sequence song joke riffs on the Tin Man and If I Only Had a Heart.
    “If I only had a heart is what it's.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · RoboCop (2014) · 0:46:51 · Griffin Newman (0.30 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

Gone Girl (2014): 1 line

  1. people (casting approach) · through The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011), which they acted in: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo ⇒ Gone Girl (the host's read). The speaker thinks Fincher's exhaustive casting search on Dragon Tattoo informed how he cast Amy with someone new to the audience.
    “that exhaustive casting search, which I do think informs the way he approaches Amy going into this movie as well”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:55:22 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

One-Eyed Jacks (1961): 1 line

  1. unmapped (led to) · through The Killing (1956), which they acted in: The Killing ⇒ One-Eyed Jacks (the host's read). Brando had seen The Killing and Paths of Glory and wanted Kubrick to direct his western.
    “Marlon Brando had seen the killing and had seen paths of glory and thought Kubrick was great.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Spartacus with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 0:39:11 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Paths of Glory (1957): 1 line

  1. unmapped (led to) · through The Killing (1956), which they acted in: The Killing ⇒ Paths of Glory (the host's read). Kirk Douglas saw The Killing and wanted that director for Paths of Glory.
    “And then didn't Kirk Douglas see this and went, oh, this is paths of glory.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:05:46 · Patton Oswalt (0.35 sure it was them)

Reservoir Dogs (1992): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The Killing (1956), which they acted in: The Killing ⇒ Reservoir Dogs (the maker said so: a Tarantino quote the host reads). Tarantino said Reservoir Dogs was his version of Kubrick's heist film, without meaning it as a ripoff.
    “but I did think of it as my killing, my take on that kind of heist movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Reservoir Dogs’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:47:05 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)

The Dark Knight (2008): 1 line

  1. lineage (homage) · through The Killing (1956), which they acted in: The Killing ⇒ The Dark Knight (the host's read). The clown mask is said to look basically like the Joker mask Nolan pays homage to in The Dark Knight.
    “Nolan obviously pays homage to in the Dark Knight”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Killing with Patton Oswalt (Ad-Free) · 1:28:00 · David Sims (0.35 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Acting (9) everyone in acting

What was said about them, by kind

career (2)

  1. career (career): Joel Kinnaman → For All Mankind. Kinnaman is great in For All Mankind as Ed Baldwin, the only actor to appear in every season.
    “he plays Ed Baldwin, who's one of the original astronauts.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · RoboCop (2014) · 0:26:26 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. career (career): Joel Kinnaman → RoboCop. Kinnaman's mixed accent, English with his dad and Swedish with his mom, gives Murphy an odd rhythm that stands in for the monotone.
    “that gives him a version of the kind of weird Robocop monotonous voice, you know?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · RoboCop (2014) · 0:57:59 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Fun items about them

  1. fun, about Joel Kinnaman: Kinnaman said his dad, an American soldier, deserted during Vietnam and ended up in Sweden; he spoke English with his dad and Swedish with his mom.
    “I spoke English with my dad in Swedish with my mom.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · RoboCop (2014) · 0:19:12 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)