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lineage (genre lineage):
The Killer → Gone Girl.
It is the closest Fincher has come to a pure thriller since Gone Girl, maybe Dragon Tattoo.
“he hasn't made a movie quite like this, I guess, since Gone Girl, but even, I mean, you could maybe even going back further to Dragon Tattoo is maybe a little closer to this kind of a pure thriller.”
The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:17:53 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them) -
industry (box office):
The Killer → Gone Girl.
Pitched as a conventional hitman movie it might do commercially though not $500 million like Gone Girl.
“It might not be a $500 million movie like Gone Girl, but it's pretty commercial.”
The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 0:57:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
unmapped (emotional through-line):
The Killer → Gone Girl.
Amazing Amy's coping with childhood exploitation is another Fincher story of someone never letting the facade break.
“Gone Girl is the same way, you know, like everything that Amazing Amy is going through is like her coping with”
The Big Picture · ‘The Killer’ Is Cold-Blooded Genius. And Something More · 1:09:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Gone Girl → Nancy Meyers.
Meyers directing Gone Girl could nail Amy but might soft-pedal her viciousness.
“the Nancy Myers movie I want to see is Gone Girl”
The Big Picture · 300th Episode Ask-Us-Anything Mailbag Spectacular · 1:12:33 · Amanda Dobbins (0.60 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
The Intern → Gone Girl.
Gone Girl is Fincher's gender movie; the speaker thinks The Intern could be funny too.
“I mean, like David Fincher does like a gender movie, I guess, is gone girl, but the intern could be funny too”
The Big Picture · 300th Episode Ask-Us-Anything Mailbag Spectacular · 1:14:48 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Gone Girl:
The much-debated nudity: a one-hour-in glimpse of Affleck that the framing does not point at, which some theater crowds and projections missed.
“He does not construct that frame to draw your attention to the dick.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:04:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Gone Girl:
Esther's boyfriend's ex saw it with him in 2014 and told him afterward she would like to 'gone girl' him.
“I would like to gone girl you, basically.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:09:57 · Esther Zuckerman (0.70 sure it was them) -
lineage (originated the project):
Reese Witherspoon → Gone Girl.
Witherspoon took the book and had the idea of bringing Fincher on board.
“takes this book, has the smart idea, bring Fincher on board.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:20:39 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if casting):
Reese Witherspoon → Gone Girl.
Fincher told Witherspoon at once that she would not star; the speakers debate whether she would have worked as Amy.
“Fincher immediately says, by the way, you're not starting in this.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:20:42 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (marketing tie-in):
Gone Girl → Dark Places.
Dark Places was sold off Gone Girl, with the Gone Girl one-sheet on its poster; a business pairing, not a creative claim.
“Dark Places came out a year after Gone Girl and had like Gone Girl on the poster.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:32:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (adaptation):
Gone Girl (Gillian Flynn novel) → Gone Girl.
The film adapts Flynn's novel, and the first-person diary trickery was the open question about how it would work on screen.
“Because it is such like a little fun piece of 1st person narration trickery.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:34:23 · Esther Zuckerman (0.70 sure it was them) -
lineage (adaptation model):
A Simple Plan → Gone Girl.
Flynn used A Simple Plan as her model for adapting her own novel, then worried she could not match it.
“And she said, so I tried to use that as a model and then I freaked myself out because I was like, well, this is too good. I won't do this well.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:36:35 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
career (announced next project):
Gone Girl → Strangers on a Train (unmade Fincher/Flynn project).
Fincher and Flynn almost at once announced a Strangers on a Train that never happened.
“they almost immediately announced after this, the strangers on a train that doesn't happen.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:38:13 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (adaptation advice):
Steve Kloves → Gone Girl.
Flynn asked Kloves how he handled the Harry Potter adaptations; the speaker does not say it shaped the script.
“She goes to Steve Cloves and is like, how did you adapt the Harry Potter books?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:39:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (Hitchcock blonde):
Alfred Hitchcock → Gone Girl.
Fincher says he read the book and felt Amy had to be a Hitchcock blonde, which is not Witherspoon's type.
“I read this and I immediately felt in need to be a Hitchcock blonde, which is just not who Reese is as a type.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:40:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if casting):
Jon Hamm → Gone Girl.
Hamm was considered for Nick Dunne but his Mad Men schedule blocked it.
“John Hamm is considered for the role of Nick Dunn.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:51:40 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
people (casting approach):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Gone Girl.
The speaker thinks Fincher's exhaustive casting search on Dragon Tattoo informed how he cast Amy with someone new to the audience.
“that exhaustive casting search, which I do think informs the way he approaches Amy going into this movie as well”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 0:55:22 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
unmapped (lesson learned):
Runner Runner → Gone Girl.
Affleck reportedly said Runner Runner was a mistake and he should only work with top-tier directors; the speaker does not tie it to Gone Girl by name.
“this was a mistake. I need to only work with like really top tier directors”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 1:05:14 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
people (led to casting):
Gone Girl → Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
While making Gone Girl, Affleck reportedly joked to his agent that he needed a heroic-chin movie after the evil-chin one.
“the joke was the chin things in the script, he calls up his agent, while making Gone Girl, and says, like, I'm doing the evil chin movie now, you got to find me a heroic chin movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 1:06:28 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Gone Girl:
Fincher attended the opening-weekend Lincoln Square screening and afterward trimmed a few seconds from scenes that ran long.
“I remember later hearing that Fincher was at that screening.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 1:12:16 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Gone Girl:
On the commentary, Fincher's first remark is that Rosamund Pike wears a wig in nearly every scene, so almost every shot needed a digital wig-line removal, including the opening shot of the back of her head.
“basically every scene Rosemond Pike is wearing a wig in this movie and wig technology has not really advanced in the last 100 years.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 1:15:28 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Gone Girl:
The Blu-ray includes a real Amazing Amy kids' book written to mirror the movie, which the speakers find arch and not child-friendly.
“It's arch and it's very much like they wrote an amazing Amy that mirrors the movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 1:30:14 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
contrast (persona contrast):
Mad Men → Gone Girl.
The speaker argues Hamm's Don Draper unknowability would sit on the surface where Affleck's reads as real doubt.
“Ham would be affecting a thing that just exists on the surface of Affleck.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 1:33:59 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (shared detail):
Gone Girl → The Way Back.
Natty Ice appears in Gone Girl and is also Affleck's beer in The Way Back.
“I feel like Natty Ice is also his beer in the way back.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 1:37:02 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Gone Girl:
Fincher's hardest job was getting Fox to market only the first 45 minutes; the only later image allowed in the trailer was the imagined shot of Amy's body underwater.
“going to Fox and being like, the marketing of this film in every way has to be centered only around the 1st 45 minutes.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 1:50:38 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
Gone Girl → Promising Young Woman.
Gone Girl's cool-girl monologue is praised as clear; Promising Young Woman is said to lack a clear worldview.
“But I think that is a movie that, like, on a pretty fundamental level, does not really have a clarity in what it is saying or what its worldview is.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 1:57:21 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (unreliable voiceover):
Fight Club → Gone Girl.
Fight Club, Gone Girl and The Killer share voiceover that turns out to be lying.
“But like, Fight Club, Gone, Girl, and the killer are all very unreliable voice.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 2:06:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (unreliable voiceover):
The Killer → Gone Girl.
Fight Club, Gone Girl and The Killer share voiceover that turns out to be lying.
“But like, Fight Club, Gone, Girl, and the killer are all very unreliable voice.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 2:06:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
people (led to casting):
Alex Cross → Gone Girl.
Perry's turn in Alex Cross is given as the reason Fincher cast him as Tanner Bolt.
“Well, that's why Fisher cast him in this.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 2:09:35 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Gone Girl → Alex Cross.
If Gone Girl had come first, a better Alex Cross franchise might have been built around Perry.
“If Gone Girl had come first. And then he was like, I want to take on Alex Cross.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 2:10:07 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
theme (character type (Tanner Bolt)):
Glengarry Glen Ross → Gone Girl.
Fincher reportedly said the book's Tanner Bolt reads like Baldwin in Glengarry and would have turned the audience against him.
“The way it reads on paper is you imagine him being more of a like Baldwin and Glengarry Glenn Bross.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 2:12:35 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
theme (character type (Desi)):
Lolita → Gone Girl.
On the commentary Fincher says he wanted a Claire Quilty type for Desi and found it in Neil Patrick Harris.
“Fincher said he wanted a Claire quilty type and he's like, what's a modern Claire quilty type?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 2:18:15 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
unmapped (nod to a friend):
Steven Soderbergh → Gone Girl.
Fincher put Soderbergh's Singani 63 in the film as a nod to his buddy and let him pick the scene.
“Fincher wanted to put it in the movie, as a nod to his buddy, Sudi, and said, uh, you can pick the scene where you want it applied.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 2:25:53 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (Oscar treatment):
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo → Gone Girl.
Dragon Tattoo got the same dismissal as a stylist's pulp job, with more nominations.
“He is, he is, but Dragon Tattoo kind of got the same treatment.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 2:47:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (opening-weekend rival):
Gone Girl → Annabelle.
Gone Girl and Annabelle opened to almost the same money.
“Two movies opening to the same amount of money, essentially.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 2:50:30 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Gone Girl:
The producer's verdict: a quintessential beach-house rental movie, the DVD everybody is glad to find on the shelf.
“I think this is a great beach house movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Gone Girl with Esther Zuckerman (Ad-Free) · 2:59:12 · Ben Hosley (0.80 sure it was them) -
unmapped (Fincher's peak run):
Zodiac → Gone Girl.
The speaker calls Fincher's run from Zodiac to Gone Girl the peak of his career.
“Yeah, I guess his run from zodiac to gone girl. I do think is the peak of his career.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Social Network (Ad-Free) · 0:06:46 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them) -
craft (visual comparison):
Panic Room → Gone Girl.
A host says Panic Room's antiseptic, fluorescent look anticipates Gone Girl.
“Like, not eight, but like, it looks like Gone Girl.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Panic Room with Eva Anderson (Ad-Free) · 1:30:27 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
people (casting):
Reese Witherspoon → Gone Girl.
Fincher also passed on Witherspoon for Gone Girl, as he had for Fight Club.
“And then, of course, he fucks her out of gone girl as well.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Fight Club with Alex Ross Perry (Ad-Free) · 1:42:41 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
The War of the Roses → Gone Girl.
Roses is described as a prequel to Gone Girl; it could have pivoted to Turner killing Douglas and going on the run.
“This movie's kind of a prequel to Gone Girl.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The War of the Roses’ With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin, and Amanda Dobbins · 1:37:30 · Craig Horlbeck (0.50 sure it was them)