Avengers: Endgame (2019)

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Wikidata Q23781155, film, IMDb tt4154796, TMDB 299534: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only film by that title; 9 more episodes agree.

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Who talked about it

Blank Check with Griffin & David

Blank Check — Patreon

The Big Picture

The Rewatchables

Came from

What the speakers say it drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Avengers: Infinity War: 1 line the host's read ×1

  1. unmapped (continuity): Avengers: Infinity War ⇒ Avengers: Endgame (the host's read). Thor knowing where the reality stone is sets up a bad decision in Endgame.
    “that plays into Endgame, and a bad decision they make”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 1:03:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Led to

What the speakers say drew on it, marked the same way.

No line says another film or person drew on it.

Connected to

Avengers: Infinity War: 11 lines theme ×3 verdict ×2 unmapped ×2 what-if ×2 craft ×1 industry ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): Avengers: Infinity War → Avengers: Endgame. Griffin's frustration with Infinity War in theaters came from dreading what Endgame would do; having since loved Endgame he likes this film more on rewatch.
    “I feel like a lot of my frustrations with this movie when I saw it were also based on me anticipating what I thought they were going to do with Endgame”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 0:28:09 · Griffin Newman (0.80 sure it was them)

Amanda Dobbins: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (verdict): Avengers: Endgame → Amanda Dobbins. Seeing Endgame with an audience beat watching alone at home.
    “seeing Endgame with people was really fun”
    The Big Picture · 300th Episode Ask-Us-Anything Mailbag Spectacular · 0:56:27 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)

Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me: 1 line theme ×1

  1. theme (theme): Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me → Avengers: Endgame. Both brush off time-travel logic with a joke.
    “that's exactly what Avengers Endgame does too”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me’ With Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:53:34 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Benicio del Toro: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Benicio del Toro → Avengers: Endgame. They hope Endgame has Benicio del Toro's Collector and Jeff Goldblum's Grandmaster together as the Space Brothers.
    “If Endgame doesn't have Space Necio and Jeff Spaceblum together as the Space Brothers.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 2:01:05 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever: 1 line unmapped ×1

  1. unmapped (Marvel peak): Black Panther: Wakanda Forever → Avengers: Endgame. Sean asks whether Endgame was the crowning achievement and everything since has been scattered fan service.
    “Is there a part of you that's like Endgame was actually was the crowning achievement”
    The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 1:09:59 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

Dark Phoenix: 1 line contrast ×1

  1. contrast (contrast experience): Avengers: Endgame → Dark Phoenix. Endgame's roaring screening is contrasted with a Dark Phoenix showing interrupted by a fire alarm.
    “It was the opposite experience movie watching than you had from Avengers, which is getting a fire alarm in the last 45 seconds of the movie”
    The Big Picture · The Future of ‘Star Wars,’ Marvel, Pixar, and Disney’s Movie Monopoly. Plus: Our Summer Movie Awards and Paul Downs Colaizzo on ‘Brittany Runs a Marathon’ | The Big Picture · 0:41:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

Iron Man 3: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Avengers: Endgame → Iron Man 3. Speaker wants an older Harley back in Endgame, a kid inspired by Stark who got into inventing.
    “It would be nice to see an older version of this kid who, like, was inspired by Tony Stark and we see where he is now.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:01:35 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

James D'Arcy: 1 line people ×1

  1. people (actor-other-work): James D'Arcy → Avengers: Endgame. D'Arcy, the original human Jarvis, played Jarvis in Agent Carter and was brought back in Endgame; the film also has Bettany as Jarvis's voice, making two Jarvises on the Surprise.
    “It's got not one, but 2 Jarvis is on it.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World with John Hodgman · 1:23:35 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)

Joker: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Avengers: Endgame → Joker. 2019 had several event films (Joker, Once Upon a Time, Endgame) before the 'flame out'.
    “the grand orgy before the flame out, before the fall of Empire”
    The Big Picture · 300th Episode Ask-Us-Anything Mailbag Spectacular · 0:35:05 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

Long Shot: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Long Shot → Avengers: Endgame. Long Shot opened a week after Endgame with two stars over 35, which explains its low turnout.
    “It came a week out a week after Endgame and stars 2 people over the age of 35.”
    The Big Picture · The Future of ‘Star Wars,’ Marvel, Pixar, and Disney’s Movie Monopoly. Plus: Our Summer Movie Awards and Paul Downs Colaizzo on ‘Brittany Runs a Marathon’ | The Big Picture · 0:36:09 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood: 1 line verdict ×1

  1. verdict (ranking): Once Upon a Time in Hollywood → Avengers: Endgame. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is a tier of one, with the rest of the summer far down.
    “once upon a time in Hollywood is is like a tier of one to me.”
    The Big Picture · The Future of ‘Star Wars,’ Marvel, Pixar, and Disney’s Movie Monopoly. Plus: Our Summer Movie Awards and Paul Downs Colaizzo on ‘Brittany Runs a Marathon’ | The Big Picture · 0:49:47 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)

Shazam!: 1 line industry ×1

  1. industry (industry): Avengers: Endgame → Shazam!. Miles has Marvel fatigue from years of buildup to Endgame and prefers DC's standalone approach.
    “it feels like we've been preparing for endgame, like, just forever”
    The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU With David F. Sandberg | Interview · 0:09:17 · Miles Surrey (0.85 sure it was them)

Thor: The Dark World: 1 line what-if ×1

  1. what-if (what-if): Thor: The Dark World → Avengers: Endgame. Hoping for Sif or Ty Simpkins as a surprise appearance in Endgame.
    “Ty Simpkins is your surprise.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:28:26 · Griffin Newman (0.35 sure it was them)

Where it came up

What was said about it, by kind

contrast (1)

  1. contrast (contrast experience): Avengers: Endgame → Dark Phoenix. Endgame's roaring screening is contrasted with a Dark Phoenix showing interrupted by a fire alarm.
    “It was the opposite experience movie watching than you had from Avengers, which is getting a fire alarm in the last 45 seconds of the movie”
    The Big Picture · The Future of ‘Star Wars,’ Marvel, Pixar, and Disney’s Movie Monopoly. Plus: Our Summer Movie Awards and Paul Downs Colaizzo on ‘Brittany Runs a Marathon’ | The Big Picture · 0:41:15 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)

craft (1)

  1. craft (craft): Avengers: Infinity War → Avengers: Endgame. Because Thanos is the protagonist here, killing him at the top of Endgame is a deliberate anticlimax.
    “killing him after this would be an anticlimax”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 1:27:37 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

industry (4)

  1. industry (industry): Avengers: Endgame → Joker. 2019 had several event films (Joker, Once Upon a Time, Endgame) before the 'flame out'.
    “the grand orgy before the flame out, before the fall of Empire”
    The Big Picture · 300th Episode Ask-Us-Anything Mailbag Spectacular · 0:35:05 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. industry (industry): Long Shot → Avengers: Endgame. Long Shot opened a week after Endgame with two stars over 35, which explains its low turnout.
    “It came a week out a week after Endgame and stars 2 people over the age of 35.”
    The Big Picture · The Future of ‘Star Wars,’ Marvel, Pixar, and Disney’s Movie Monopoly. Plus: Our Summer Movie Awards and Paul Downs Colaizzo on ‘Brittany Runs a Marathon’ | The Big Picture · 0:36:09 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. industry (industry): Avengers: Endgame → Shazam!. Miles has Marvel fatigue from years of buildup to Endgame and prefers DC's standalone approach.
    “it feels like we've been preparing for endgame, like, just forever”
    The Big Picture · 'Shazam!’ and the Future of the DCEU With David F. Sandberg | Interview · 0:09:17 · Miles Surrey (0.85 sure it was them)
  4. industry (industry): Avengers: Infinity War → Avengers: Endgame. Infinity War's billing is a crayon drawing next to Endgame's.
    “Billing on this movie is a fucking crayon drawing compared to the billing of endgame”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:40:23 · David Sims (0.35 sure it was them)

people (1)

  1. people (actor-other-work): James D'Arcy → Avengers: Endgame. D'Arcy, the original human Jarvis, played Jarvis in Agent Carter and was brought back in Endgame; the film also has Bettany as Jarvis's voice, making two Jarvises on the Surprise.
    “It's got not one, but 2 Jarvis is on it.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World with John Hodgman · 1:23:35 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)

theme (4)

  1. theme (theme): Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me → Avengers: Endgame. Both brush off time-travel logic with a joke.
    “that's exactly what Avengers Endgame does too”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me’ With Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:53:34 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. theme (theme): Avengers: Infinity War → Avengers: Endgame. Doctor Strange's 14 million futures: Endgame is the one pathway he sees.
    “A movie endgame is the one pathway.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 1:46:32 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. theme (theme): Avengers: Infinity War → Avengers: Endgame. Thanos's Titan speech echoes his first line about knowing what it is to be right and still lose.
    “And this is the echo to, I know what it's like.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:09:10 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  4. theme (theme): Avengers: Infinity War → Avengers: Endgame. Endgame's returning heroes prove Thanos wrong: you love even the tertiary characters.
    “Feige being like C, Thanos was wrong.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:28:37 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)

unmapped (4)

  1. unmapped (Marvel peak): Black Panther: Wakanda Forever → Avengers: Endgame. Sean asks whether Endgame was the crowning achievement and everything since has been scattered fan service.
    “Is there a part of you that's like Endgame was actually was the crowning achievement”
    The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 1:09:59 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (audience experience): Avengers: Endgame → Avengers: Endgame. The hammer-to-Captain-America moment at a raucous Disney lot screening made Chris feel eleven years old.
    “I was like, I'm 11 years old. This is the coolest thing I've ever seen.”
    The Big Picture · The Future of ‘Star Wars,’ Marvel, Pixar, and Disney’s Movie Monopoly. Plus: Our Summer Movie Awards and Paul Downs Colaizzo on ‘Brittany Runs a Marathon’ | The Big Picture · 0:33:00 · Chris Ryan (0.70 sure it was them)
  3. unmapped (continuity): Avengers: Infinity War → Avengers: Endgame. The Scarlet Witch's mind-reading powers from Ultron are teased here and then forgotten by Endgame.
    “teasing the fact that the Scarlet Witch originated having mind powers”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 0:57:39 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. unmapped (continuity): Avengers: Infinity War → Avengers: Endgame. Thor knowing where the reality stone is sets up a bad decision in Endgame.
    “that plays into Endgame, and a bad decision they make”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 1:03:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

verdict (4)

  1. verdict (verdict): Avengers: Endgame → Amanda Dobbins. Seeing Endgame with an audience beat watching alone at home.
    “seeing Endgame with people was really fun”
    The Big Picture · 300th Episode Ask-Us-Anything Mailbag Spectacular · 0:56:27 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)
  2. verdict (ranking): Once Upon a Time in Hollywood → Avengers: Endgame. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is a tier of one, with the rest of the summer far down.
    “once upon a time in Hollywood is is like a tier of one to me.”
    The Big Picture · The Future of ‘Star Wars,’ Marvel, Pixar, and Disney’s Movie Monopoly. Plus: Our Summer Movie Awards and Paul Downs Colaizzo on ‘Brittany Runs a Marathon’ | The Big Picture · 0:49:47 · Amanda Dobbins (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. verdict (verdict): Avengers: Infinity War → Avengers: Endgame. Griffin's frustration with Infinity War in theaters came from dreading what Endgame would do; having since loved Endgame he likes this film more on rewatch.
    “I feel like a lot of my frustrations with this movie when I saw it were also based on me anticipating what I thought they were going to do with Endgame”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 0:28:09 · Griffin Newman (0.80 sure it was them)
  4. verdict (verdict): Avengers: Infinity War → Avengers: Endgame. Hindsight reframes Infinity War as a movie about processing trauma rather than pure battle.
    “a movie about the processing of trauma”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:26:21 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

what-if (5)

  1. what-if (what-if): Avengers: Infinity War → Avengers: Endgame. Mantis proves Thanos can be mentally manipulated, so Endgame should have used Wanda against him.
    “you have a very powerful mental manipulator in Wanda, and she doesn't do it.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:12:02 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. what-if (what-if): Avengers: Infinity War → Avengers: Endgame. Would have preferred Wanda going into Thanos's head in Endgame, a Mysterio-style nightmare sequence.
    “I would have enjoyed her more going into his head”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:12:59 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. what-if (what-if): Thor: The Dark World → Avengers: Endgame. Hoping for Sif or Ty Simpkins as a surprise appearance in Endgame.
    “Ty Simpkins is your surprise.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:28:26 · Griffin Newman (0.35 sure it was them)
  4. what-if (what-if): Benicio del Toro → Avengers: Endgame. They hope Endgame has Benicio del Toro's Collector and Jeff Goldblum's Grandmaster together as the Space Brothers.
    “If Endgame doesn't have Space Necio and Jeff Spaceblum together as the Space Brothers.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 2:01:05 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. what-if (what-if): Avengers: Endgame → Iron Man 3. Speaker wants an older Harley back in Endgame, a kid inspired by Stark who got into inventing.
    “It would be nice to see an older version of this kid who, like, was inspired by Tony Stark and we see where he is now.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:01:35 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Fun items about it

  1. fun, about Avengers: Endgame: The Cap-and-hammer moment: a crowd cheered; Amanda turned to Chris Ryan to ask why.
    “I also remember seeing the hammer thing and then turning to Chris and being like, why are they cheering?”
    The Big Picture · 300th Episode Ask-Us-Anything Mailbag Spectacular · 0:56:51 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Avengers: Endgame: Chris saw Endgame at a Disney lot screening where the crowd screamed when the hammer reached Captain America.
    “The people in the movie theater were screaming.”
    The Big Picture · The Future of ‘Star Wars,’ Marvel, Pixar, and Disney’s Movie Monopoly. Plus: Our Summer Movie Awards and Paul Downs Colaizzo on ‘Brittany Runs a Marathon’ | The Big Picture · 0:33:04 · Chris Ryan (0.70 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about Avengers: Endgame: Amanda found the CGI muddy and had to text Chris afterward to ask what was the deal with the hammer.
    “I texted you when I was like, what was the deal with the hammer?”
    The Big Picture · The Future of ‘Star Wars,’ Marvel, Pixar, and Disney’s Movie Monopoly. Plus: Our Summer Movie Awards and Paul Downs Colaizzo on ‘Brittany Runs a Marathon’ | The Big Picture · 0:34:16 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about Avengers: Endgame: Amanda admits she will be sad if Captain America dies, while Sean doesn't care.
    “It'll be sad if Captain America dies.”
    The Big Picture · The Oscars Schedule Changes, and Andrew Garfield On ‘Under the Silver Lake’ | Interview · 0:31:34 · Amanda Dobbins (0.80 sure it was them)

Who the speakers said made it

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