Marcus and McFeely

Made films the shows talk about.

Counted as writer, the making department they hold the most credits in. The films the hosts said they wrote, which the two lists below run through too: Captain America: The First Avenger (2011); The Avengers (2012); Avengers: Infinity War (2018); Avengers: Endgame (2019); Pain & Gain (transcribed 'painting game'); The Chronicles of Narnia (movies).

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

The Incredible Hulk (2008): 2 lines

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote: The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read). Avengers' line about Hulk 'breaking Harlem' is false: the Abomination did it.
    “That's the one thing they reference in Avengers, where he says, I kind of broke Harlem.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:34:36 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote: The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read). Ruffalo's first Hulk scene in a slum echoes this film's Rocinha opening, though otherwise the continuity is thrown out.
    “The only tale is that when the Mark Ruffalo hook was introduced, they find the little hot.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:25:11 · Griffin or David (0.25 sure it was them)

Aliens (1986): 1 line

  1. craft (craft) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they wrote: Aliens ⇒ Captain America: The First Avenger (the host's read). The frozen-find cold open structurally echoes the discovery sequence that opens Aliens.
    “this is also actually very similar to is the opening of aliens.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:10:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Avengers: Infinity War (2018), which they wrote: Avengers: Age of Ultron ⇒ Avengers: Infinity War (the host's read). The Hulkbuster armor pays off Banner being almost defeated by it before.
    “it's paying off the fact that he was, you know, almost defeated by this armor before.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:00:15 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Avengers: Infinity War (2018): 1 line, within their own work

  1. unmapped (continuity) · through Avengers: Endgame (2019), which they wrote: Avengers: Infinity War ⇒ Avengers: Endgame (the host's read). Thor knowing where the reality stone is sets up a bad decision in Endgame.
    “that plays into Endgame, and a bad decision they make”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 1:03:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Iron Man (2008): 1 line

  1. industry (industry) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote: Iron Man ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read). The post-credits Nick Fury scene established the shared-universe model that changed Hollywood for a decade or more.
    “I mean, this has changed the next 10 years of Hollywood filmmaking.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:13:16 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Iron Man 2 (2010): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they wrote: Iron Man 2 ⇒ Captain America: The First Avenger (the host's read). The Stark Expo of the 1940s is the origin of the Expo seen in Iron Man 2, now as the full World's Fair version.
    “Like what we see in Iron Man 2, but now it's like the full like 40s World Fair version.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:19:47 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Jack Kirby: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Avengers: Infinity War (2018), which they wrote: Jack Kirby ⇒ Avengers: Infinity War (the host's read). Kirby's cosmic creations at Marvel, Galactus and the Silver Surfer, are the ancestors of this material.
    “he creates galactus and silver surf and all these parrots”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 1:56:25 · Griffin Newman (0.35 sure it was them)

Jim Starlin: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Avengers: Infinity War (2018), which they wrote: Jim Starlin ⇒ Avengers: Infinity War (the host's read). The cosmic Thanos comics were mostly Starlin and mostly dudes talking on half asteroids.
    “Starlin stuff, mostly.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 1:52:56 · David Sims (0.30 sure it was them)

Star Wars: The Phantom Menace: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote: Star Wars: The Phantom Menace ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read). The Chitauri transport creature with troops jumping off recalls the Battle Droid transport.
    “it's like the thing in Phantom Menace, the, uh, Battle Droid Transport.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:47:09 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Avengers (2012): 1 line, within their own work

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Avengers: Infinity War (2018), which they wrote: The Avengers ⇒ Avengers: Infinity War (the host's read). The Hulk echoes Tony Stark's words from the first Avengers; the movie is full of callbacks.
    “echoing Tony Stark's words from the Avengers 2012”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 0:25:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Truth: Red, White & Black (comic): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they wrote: Truth: Red, White & Black (comic) ⇒ Captain America: The First Avenger (the host's read). The one-off serum process loosely connects to the Truth miniseries retcon about earlier black experimentees.
    “Truth is a book that essentially theorizes that there was like a Tuskegee airman.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:47:45 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

Captain Marvel (2019): 2 lines

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote: The Avengers ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read). The Tesseract, the glowing box, was a MacGuffin in the first Avengers and in Infinity War.
    “you may remember the Tesseract from the 1st Avengers film, and then, of course, the most recent Avengers film, Avengers Infinity War”
    The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:09:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.85 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they wrote: Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read). The film goes back to the Steve Rogers style of origin story.
    “here's how Steve Rogers became a super soldier style of storytelling.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:03:27 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)

Iron Man 3 (2013): 2 lines

  1. theme (theme) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote: The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). Stark's arc across three Iron Man films peaks in Iron Man 3, and Avengers lays the track for its PTSD.
    “Iron Man 3 is all him being unable to cope with the psychological like trauma of this.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:07:49 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote: The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). Iron Man 3 works as a quasi-sequel to The Avengers because it deals with Tony's trauma of the portal and aliens.
    “Except it's it is a sort of quasi sequel to the Avengers in that it's dealing with the fact that he got sucked into a portal into space for a 2nd there.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:15:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Thor: The Dark World (2013): 2 lines

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote: The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read). The Dark World is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki: he becomes co-lead, Thor 1A to Loki 1B.
    “This is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki, where they're like, we get it now.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:20:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote: The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read). Avengers ends with the team scattering, which is why the Phase 2 sequels can stand alone.
    “And also, Joss Wheaton's like master stroke at the end of Avengers is like, we're not a team.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:30:50 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015): 1 line

  1. contrast (contrast) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote: The Avengers ⇒ Avengers: Age of Ultron (the host's read). Age of Ultron opens with the team already together and Fury in hiding, so it is a sequel to five films rather than to Avengers.
    “Avengers 2 can't be a sequel to Avengers one. It has to be a sequel to 5 other moments.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:39:42 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Avengers: Endgame (2019): 1 line, within their own work

  1. unmapped (continuity) · through Avengers: Infinity War (2018), which they wrote: Avengers: Infinity War ⇒ Avengers: Endgame (the host's read). Thor knowing where the reality stone is sets up a bad decision in Endgame.
    “that plays into Endgame, and a bad decision they make”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 1:03:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Avengers: Infinity War (2018): 1 line, within their own work

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote: The Avengers ⇒ Avengers: Infinity War (the host's read). The Hulk echoes Tony Stark's words from the first Avengers; the movie is full of callbacks.
    “echoing Tony Stark's words from the Avengers 2012”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 0:25:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Black Panther (2018): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they wrote: Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Black Panther (the host's read). Vibranium, the shield metal, leads to Wakanda; adamantium is the X-Men analogue the MCU couldn't use.
    “So instead they use vibranium as their super metal.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:27:32 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they wrote: Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Captain America: The Winter Soldier (the host's read). Zola surviving and joining the other side is the seed for Winter Soldier.
    “Because you need Zola to join the other side.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:34:27 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Chris Pratt: 1 line

  1. industry (industry) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they wrote: Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Chris Pratt (the host's read). The beefcake shot of Pratt echoes Chris Evans out of the tank, and Marvel now puts one in every trailer.
    “It's Chris Evans coming out of the tank, Captain America.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:37:48 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Guardians of the Galaxy (2014): 1 line

  1. programming (programming) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote: The Avengers ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy (the host's read). Thanos' Chitauri subcontracting sets up the cosmic films; Guardians is next on their Marvel list.
    “We're gonna we're gonna cover Peter movie soon.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:34:57 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Thor: Ragnarok (2017): 1 line

  1. theme (theme) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote: The Avengers ⇒ Thor: Ragnarok (the host's read). Ben's favorite Marvel movie; Hulk's journey into space follows from here.
    “Ragnarok is 100% Ben's favorite Marvel movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:18:58 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Writing (6) everyone in writing

What was said about them, by kind

career (2)

  1. career (career): Marcus and McFeely → The Chronicles of Narnia (movies). This is the first Marvel script by the writers who came from the Narnia movies and who now write all the Avengers with the Russos.
    “this is the 1st script by Marcus and McFeely, who are guys who had worked on the Narnia movies.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:33:00 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. career (career): Marcus and McFeely → Pain & Gain (transcribed 'painting game'). They also wrote a script David calls great.
    “They wrote painting game, which is a great script.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:33:10 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

craft (1)

  1. craft (craft): Marcus and McFeely → Guardians of the Galaxy. They do not totally nail Guardians-style humor, though Drax gets great lines.
    “Do not totally nail the humor of...”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 0:49:51 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

Fun items about them

None.