Stan Lee

Made films the shows talk about.

Wikidata Q181900: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by Wikidata joins them to The Avengers, which The Avengers credits them on.

Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: Spider-Man (2002). Count them as writer (4 films), actor (4 films) instead.

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Darkman (1990): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Spider-Man (2002), which they were tied to as Marvel creator; watched Spider-Man (2002) with Bendis: Darkman ⇒ Spider-Man (the host's read). Raimi's Spider-Man strengths start in Darkman.
    “all the stuff that is cool about the Remy Spider-Man movies starts here”
    The Big Picture · The 1990 Movie Draft · 1:31:21 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Steve Ditko and Stan Lee: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Spider-Man (2002), which they were tied to as Marvel creator; watched Spider-Man (2002) with Bendis: Steve Ditko and Stan Lee ⇒ Spider-Man (the host's read). Ditko and Lee made Spider-Man a teen hero for younger readers, not yet accepted by the Avengers or Fantastic Four.
    “I mean, like it was Steve, uh, Ditco and Stanley basically making a character that appealed to younger readers.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’: One of the Best Superhero Movies Ever | Exit Survey (Ep. 108) · 0:09:39 · Micah Peters (0.80 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

Iron Man (2008): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · them, directly: Stan Lee ⇒ Iron Man (the maker said so: Stan Lee interviews). The film follows the first comic issue's origin; Lee wanted to make an industrialist war profiteer compelling to hippie kids.
    “here's like an industrialist, war profiteer, Laos, and make him like compelling to these, like, hippie kids.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:27:36 · unknown (probably David) (0.40 sure it was them)

Thor (2011): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · them, directly: Stan Lee ⇒ Thor (the host's read). The Donald Blake identity came from Stan Lee's 60s devotion to the secret-identity trope; the movie keeps it only as a fake ID gag.
    “in the 60s, Stanley was a little slavishly devoted to like the classic superhero comic trope, so you needed a secret identity”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:08 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Writing (5) everyone in writing

Acting (4) everyone in acting

Other (1) everyone in other

What was said about them, by kind

craft (2)

  1. craft (craft): Stan Lee → George Lucas. Lucas and Spielberg not talking down to young audiences echoes Stan Lee's magic.
    “that was kind of Stan Lee's magic too.”
    Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raiders of the Lost Ark with Brian Michael Bendis · 1:30:57 · Brian Michael Bendis (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. craft (craft): Stan Lee → Iron Man 2. The Stan Lee cameo running joke is mistaken identity: Hugh Hefner here, Larry King in Iron Man 2, then they dropped it.
    “In Iron Man 2, they think he's Larry King.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:16:15 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

industry (1)

  1. industry (industry): Clark Gregg → Stan Lee. Agent Coulson popping up is the next-stage Stan Lee cameo, an in-on-the-joke moment.
    “He is like the, the, the next stage Stan lease.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:45:20 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them)

lineage (2)

  1. lineage (lineage): Thor → Stan Lee. The Donald Blake identity came from Stan Lee's 60s devotion to the secret-identity trope; the movie keeps it only as a fake ID gag.
    “in the 60s, Stanley was a little slavishly devoted to like the classic superhero comic trope, so you needed a secret identity”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:08 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage): Iron Man → Stan Lee. The film follows the first comic issue's origin; Lee wanted to make an industrialist war profiteer compelling to hippie kids.
    “here's like an industrialist, war profiteer, Laos, and make him like compelling to these, like, hippie kids.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:27:36 · unknown (probably David) (0.40 sure it was them)

theme (1)

  1. theme (analogy): Vladimir Nabokov → Stan Lee. Writing Lolita is likened to Stan Lee giving himself the hardest character to sell, with Iron Man.
    “Um, and Lolita was like that stage of Nabakov's career where he was just like, fuck it, I'm coming for you.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Lolita with Fran Hoepfner (Ad-Free) · 0:31:43 · unknown (0.00 sure it was them)

Fun items about them

  1. fun, about Stan Lee: See the cameo where Stan Lee is mistaken for Hugh Hefner; in Iron Man 2 it's Larry King; the running joke was dropped.
    “Yeah, so in this, he thinks it's Hugh Hefner.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:15:56 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)