Loves Zodiac as a masterpiece and the Fincher dossier details; the show's box-office fixer. Gets weirdly delighted by obsessive production detail (flashlight museum, typewriters). Has no patience for the studio logic of dumping films.
Stances
Zodiac is Fincher's best film and the best of a loaded 2007
Studios act irrationally against their own interests
Fincher is often called cold and later vindicated
Humor: Dry, deadpan banter and a running bit about reading the room as a podcast host.
In their words
“Okay, I'm going to read a thing while David's still in there.” (2:25:37)
“Leslie, I get some satisfaction out of the fact that I think people who listen to this show sometimes think that I'm like on my devices during this.” (2:20:30)
Loves music videos tied to movie soundtracks and the weirdly sincere Springfield video. Grew up on Disney cassettes, Hanson, and Celebrity Death Match era pop culture. Appreciates a sprawling, nonsensical video that sets up multiple characters.
Stances
Praises the Springfield Dance This World Away video as a favorite, then sours on it
Defends movie tie-in videos that interact with the film
Mocks Fincher's autopilot work on rock videos
Humor: Escalating bits and character voices, from the Beavis and Butt-Head shirt assignments to the fake Reddit thread.
In their words
“I think all 3 of these guys are me, but it's an ed ego super ego thing.” (0:22:01)
“I was in, uh, anything goes?” (1:15:38)
“Uh, no, Hanson Hanson was my favorite band at this point in time.” (2:08:42)
Obsessive movie nerd who tracked every upcoming film as a 13-year-old and has a soft spot for Kristen Stewart. Loves craft and box office lore, recoils from suspense that stresses him out.
Stances
Panic Room was built around Jodie Foster and defies logic otherwise
Fincher scaled back after the Fight Club flop
Humor: Runs bits on tangents like Studio 60, razor scooters, and Jared Leto.
In their words
“obsessively read every fucking dork website I could and thought I was ahead of the curve and knew every movie that was in the pipeline.” (0:26:32)
Is a movie-tie-in collector who grew up in Britain, did not see Fight Club until later, and was never the target of it. Loves a deep tie-in and a rights-clearing bit. Thinks the film is fine but not his formative one.
Stances
Not the film for him, but happy to talk about it
DVD and collector culture matters
Anti-ads bit as the through-line
Humor: Runs bits (no-ads fake-outs, Deadpool-cover Photoshops) and narrates posters.
In their words
“The reason I have to tap out of this is I grew up in Britain.” (0:15:19)
Loves 90s thrillers, character actors, and Fincher at his bleakest; the show's box-office quizzer. Leans toward Se7en over The Game and wishes the movie really gamed him. Bit-hungry about names, keys, and found trivia.
Stances
Admires Se7en more than The Game
Never feels gamed by the movie
Likes The Player and the Criterion disc
Humor: Fast, absurd riffing and gags built on the movie's props.
In their words
“I would argue that I, my beef with this movie is that I never feel like I am being gamed.” (0:45:08)
Loves grim, well-made thrillers and obsessive craft detail; reads the dossier and revels in production lore. Teases guests about their bits. Has a Tisch background and some gun-safety training from a film shoot.
Stances
Se7en is great and Fincher's control of a never-named city is the key choice
Fincher is a blank-check director
Pitt's need to prove himself is the performance
Humor: Driven by running bits, exact trivia, and deadpan fake interview impressions.
In their words
“You know what has happened?” (1:36:38)
“I did when I did gun safety training for Tomorrow War.” (2:08:57)
Loves a sequel that spits in the studio's eye, and the Alien 3 behind-the-scenes extras. Enjoys box-office-weekend trivia, poster taglines, and Fincher's DVD-era thoroughness. Speaker attribution in this transcript is mostly inferred, so these are low-confidence reads.
Stances
Alien 3 is a crowd-displeaser by design
On the assembly cut versus theatrical: leans theatrical, as a cleaner movie (low confidence on which host says it)
Humor: Running bits (the Santa Claus line, the wood planet, poster minutiae).
In their words
“Okay. I think the assembly cut is better while not being perfect.” (0:14:24)
“I really do have a preference here, and it is the dog” (1:21:48)
Loves Tim Burton's early work and defends late-period Burton, theme-park lore, box-office minutiae and Pixar-style craft. Can't stand studio condescension toward children and celebrity-casting logic. A sucker for sweaty, overworked names, bones, and unfashionable Disney touchstones.
Stances
Nightmare Before Christmas is a perfect movie that outlasts its ubiquity
Jack is an analog for artists trying to make commercial art
Studios underestimate children
Mrs. Doubtfire's box-office run deserves celebration
Humor: Sweaty-pun builds and deadpan escalation, riffing on bones and box-office numbers.
Obsessed with this film and calls it his favorite of the Kubrick set alongside Barry Lyndon. Loves box-office trivia and where he saw things. A sucker for the small perfect line readings and the Christmas-lights look.
Stances
Eyes Wide Shut is a masterpiece
Reputation has risen and it will climb the Sight and Sound list
Bill's journey is about the impossibility of not knowing
Humor: Escalating riffs and bits, from alternate podcast lines to sequel fantasies.
In their words
“I don't need to know what grows for you every time when you watch that scene.” (0:01:19)
Loves Doctor Sleep and the director's cut, and the idea that the sequel deepens The Shining. Treats Flanagan's patient, emotional horror as a plus and dislikes jump scares. A sucker for Rose the Hat as a villain and for the box office game.
Stances
Doctor Sleep is a great movie and rewatchable
jump scares are fake tension
legacy sequels usually just suck the steam from the original
Humor: Riffs and runs long on bits, such as the Rose the Hat biography and the Hunk Shoe sleep-train jokes.
In their words
“Now, I have to assume this is all conjecture on my part, okay?” (0:14:58)
Loves Kubrick's dark, mordant comedy and the Barry Lyndon, Shining and Eyes Wide Shut run, and tracks the casting and production legends behind Full Metal Jacket. Reads the dossier closely, likes award-season trivia and box office games.
Stances
Kubrick's humor works best when earnest performances sit at the center
Ermey was a surprising Oscar snub
ranks Strangelove low among Kubrick's funny films
Humor: Deadpan, quotes the film back at itself and lets the guests run riffs.
In their words
“I, I, I rank Strange Love lower in the pack of movies I find funny by him.” (1:36:54)
“Now, which your answer is do it to children.” (0:15:10)
Loves Kubrick trivia, research-dossier detail, and the show's long-running bits; fascinated by how Altman's company shaped Shelley Duvall. Sensitive to anyone mishandling his catchphrases. A sucker for a Draft Day story and the box office game.
Stances
Stephen King's objections were a reaction to being shown himself
Kubrick's many takes need to be separated from cruelty
Would rather talk about the movie than its cultural weight
Humor: Pedantic riffs and teasing, usually at David's or Tim's expense.
Loves Barry Lyndon as one of his favorite movies and finds the humor in Kubrick more than the austerity. Sentimental about the film's warmth and its devastating last act, especially as a parent. A sucker for the film's absurd rules (duels, class) and for production lore.
Stances
Barry Lyndon is a comedy and Kubrick's warmest film
O'Neal is perfect in the part
Barry stays mysterious without an inner monologue
Humor: Plays it dry and jokey, leaning into modern analogies and bits.
In their words
“I feel like this was the epitome of when the critical community was like, yeah, Kubrick makes like coffee table books.” (0:07:58)
Likes genre craft and unvarnished big swings; enjoys box-office-game trivia and Kubrick lore. Dislikes pretension without payoff. Hosts wallow in sequel-hubris jokes.
Stances
2010 is respectable and watchable, not a masterpiece
Hyams not aping Kubrick was the smart move
Humor: Riffs on fake headlines and extended bits, with a dry, deflating tone.
Loves Kubrick's looseness and humor and wants to demolish the cold-genius myth. Resents the mythology built around him and the attitude of Kubrick guys. Is a sucker for comedy bits, Simpsons-grade jokes, and cinema trivia like the box-office game.
Stances
Kubrick is not a humorless perfectionist; he was elastic with actors and loved improvisation
The mythology around Kubrick makes the films less interesting
Held the line that the bits should continue
Humor: Runs long, escalating bits and puns, and pins running gags like hip hop Sims for later payoff.
In their words
“the more people try to put Kubrick in this, like, alien box, the less interesting I find him.” (0:36:11)
“I don't think of myself as a Kubert guy, is because of how much I resent the mythology that's built around him” (0:43:58)
A Kubrick-series host who rewatched the films in order and found the 2001 rewatch surprisingly brisk. Loves the slow-sci-fi tradition including Star Trek The Motion Picture, and is moved by the ending's dread. A sucker for production lore from the dossier.
Stances
Reevaluating Kubrick as funny
2001 is a brisk watch despite the slowness
Likes slow sci-fi like Star Trek TMP
AI rights may never be granted
Humor: Shifts between bits and earnest observations; lands jokes about the guest and podcast logistics.
In their words
“I found it a surprisingly brisk watch.” (0:36:31)
“I love the slowness of motion picture.” (0:44:04)
“My question is, do we ever grant them rights?” (0:48:01)
Loves Strangelove's dry delivery and Peter Sellers' underplayed Mandrake, and watched it as a comedy-obsessed kid through the AFI 100 Laughs list. Skeptical of Adam McKay's recent satire and of Don't Look Up's tag. A sucker for movie lists, titles and bits like podcast series names.
Stances
Mandrake may be the funniest of the three Sellers roles
The film's seriousness is what makes every joke funnier
Don't Look Up's ending works but its tag undercuts it
Podswide Cast was first pitch, best pitch
Humor: Escalates a bit with mock-grandiose confidence and wounded-pride deadpan.
In their words
“Podswide cast, it was like 1st pitch, best pitch, I just said we're fucking going with this.” (0:07:42)
“Mandrake talking about being captured by the Japanese is the funniest part of this whole movie.” (0:11:32)
“I watched this because AFI in the year 2000 did their 100 years, 100 laughs” (0:28:13)
Reread the book and finds it brilliantly written; an enthusiast of Kubrick on a big screen and of Sellers in Strangelove. Compares movies to a wide pop-culture range (Nope, Hail, Caesar!, The Lobster). Believes the Lolita poster beats the film.
Stances
The poster and tagline are better than the movie
The film's tone is wildly inconsistent but absorbing
Kubrick's films are best seen in a theater
Humor: Rapid-fire riffs, mock-pomposity and long tangents.
In their words
“I stand by it.” (1:38:12)
“Poster eats this movie's lunch.” (1:33:57)
“I hate watching his Kubrick movies at home.” (0:45:39)
Leans on the dossier and the Kubrick-era history; loves tidy business-and-career stories and the Blank Check 'guarantor' framing. Likes bits about stars and their careers. (Speaker attribution within the transcript is inferred; confidence is moderate.)
Stances
Spartacus is Kubrick's guarantor: the hit that gave him the blank check
Kubrick was a pain but the work stands out
Humor: Rapid riffs and impressions on the episode's running bits.
In their words
“Today we are covering Spartacus, which is what we like to call a guarantor.” (0:26:58)
“This is the film that gives them the blank check that they run off of for the rest of their career.” (0:27:03)
Admires well-made war films but finds them panic-inducing; prefers Full Metal Jacket to David. Likes the Coens (Hudsucker Proxy) and the box-office game ritual inherited from his father. Responds to Kirk Douglas as a star who used clout for challenging pictures.
Stances
War movies stress him out even when they are good
Paths of Glory is short in a way that is a blessing
Won't rewatch Saving Private Ryan despite loving it
Humor: Gallows-humor riffs and running bits that escalate the absurd (e.g. trench humor, reenactments as a Patreon goal).
In their words
“I get very stressed out watching war films even when I think they're good.” (0:02:01)
“I like full metal jacket more than you, David” (0:55:08)
“I buy it on fucking steel book.” (1:19:43)
Their shows' recurring bits
Running bits, not opinions; a critic read aloud is cited, not present.
The Big Picture
Drafts: Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument.
Hall of Fame: A star's or director's best, ranked and argued.
Countdowns: Ranked lists, top five or top ten.
Blank Check with Griffin & David
The box office game: Guessing the film's opening weekend and what it was up against.
The sung theme: "Blank Check with Griffin and David", sung; the transcriber garbles it.
Their claims
Showing 101–200 of 1,162 claims.
lineage (origin of project):
David Lean → Empire of the Sun.
Lean asked Spielberg to check on the rights, then lost interest and handed the novel to him.
“He asks Spielberg to check in on the rights for him.”
unmapped (screenwriting):
Tom Stoppard → Empire of the Sun.
Stoppard became the sole credited writer and said it taught him where dialogue is unnecessary.
“I learned a lot working on that in terms of like where you don't need dialogue.”
unmapped (scene reference):
Empire of the Sun → Gone with the Wind.
Jim stands before the Gone with the Wind poster, echoing Spielberg's remark to Alice Walker that it is one of his favorites.
“I mean, you have that moment where he's standing in front of the giant gone with the wind poster, right?”
lineage (inspiration):
Empire of the Sun → Tropic Thunder.
Ben Stiller, on the Empire set as a young actor, was inspired by actors playing at suffering to make Tropic Thunder two decades later.
“Which, of course, this is one of this movie's greatest, like, lasting legacies is that this, this is what inspires Tropic Thunder.”
unmapped (psychology key):
Empire of the Sun → The Fabelmans.
Griffin reads Empire through The Fabelmans: Spielberg's core trauma was being pulled into the adult world, like Jim in the camp.
“I mean, here's here's my big post-fableman's take on this movie.”
unmapped (dark twin):
Empire of the Sun → E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial.
Griffin pairs E.T. and Empire as two stabs at the same childhood material at the front and back of the 80s.
“I do think they're like him sort of like at the front and end of the 80s taking 2 stabs at a similar thing.”
people (performance):
Miranda Richardson → Kansas City.
Griffin saw the Altman film at a repertory screening where the audience was blown away by Richardson.
“holy shit, the Miranda Richardson performance in this.”
“They fail to make the, um, the plot, the sort of like Indiana Jones-S McGuffin of what they're up against directly relate to Wallace and Gromit's relationship.”
unmapped (stylistic shift):
Saving Private Ryan → Minority Report.
Saving Private Ryan was the biggest shift in Spielberg's signature style, letting him change languages for films like Minority Report and Munich.
“Saving Private Ryan is, in my opinion, the single biggest shift in his signature style up until that point”
unmapped (historical context):
Come See the Paradise → Empire of the Sun.
A reminder that America had its own internment camps, as in Alan Parker's film.
industry (industry):
Raiders of the Lost Ark → Spider-Man.
The big 2002 superhero films were limited by effects budgets in action; Raiders felt like it exceeded what was possible.
“this is more movie than you thought was previously possible.”
unmapped (experience):
Raiders of the Lost Ark → Spider-Man 2.
Seeing Spider-Man 2's subway chase felt to him like watching Raiders' escalating set pieces in 1981.
“I imagine this is what it would have felt like to watch Raiders in the theater at the time, but seeing Spider-Man 2 opening nights”
unmapped (weirdest-ever):
Twin Peaks: The Return, Part 8 → Twin Peaks season 2 finale.
Part 8 is Lynch topping his own season 2 finale as the weirdest thing ever on prime time, building something weird in relation to the template of weirdness he already set.
“he's like, no, I need to make the thing that is weird and relation to the template of weirdness I have already set, much like the season 2 finale”
craft (structural echo):
Twin Peaks: The Return, Part 8 → 2001: A Space Odyssey.
The abstract atomic-origin sequence is likened to 2001 for television, and the speakers note 2001 also comes after two hours of conventional narrative.
“you're like, oh, we're watching something that is 2001, a Space Odyssey for television.”
lineage (lineage):
Tender Mercies → The Straight Story.
Tender Mercies was a quiet drama offered to Lynch, a sensibility that foreshadows The Straight Story.
“but somebody like the straight story speaks to him.”
craft (craft):
David Lynch → The Elephant Man.
Lynch planned to do the Elephant Man makeup effects himself, as he had on Eraserhead, until the production insisted on a professional.
“Like his plan was to do the makeup effects entirely himself because he was used to working that way on Elephant Man, or not Elephant Man, Eraserhead.”
“He got attached to a very famous blacklist script, a notorious blacklist script called The Brigands of Raffle Borg, which is written by S. Craig Zoller.”
career (career context):
Decision to Leave → The Little Drummer Girl.
The film was made after Park's English-language TV show, which left him homesick for a Korean film.
lineage (source song):
Decision to Leave → Mist (1967 Korean hit song).
Park loved the 1967 song The Mist since childhood and the movie is built around it and the lady-in-the-mist idea.
“A Korean 1967 hit song called The Miss. Yeah. which is about a protagonist who's trying to understand the world around them.”
career (career context):
Decision to Leave → Stoker.
Stoker was Park's only American film and he took someone else's script; Decision to Leave is the first fully original thing after a run of adaptations.
“This is the 1st time he's completely regenering something.”
lineage (source character):
Decision to Leave → Martin Beck novels (Swedish).
The anti-macho gentleman cop concept comes from Martin Beck, the Swedish police novels, falling for the lady from the mist.
“So basically, what if Martin Beck, this Swedish police officer character falls in love with, like the lady from the Mist, sort of, right?”
unmapped (writing partner):
Park Chan-wook → Chung Seo-kyung.
Chung is his frequent co-writer; she initially refused a melodrama about an abused woman and he talked her into it.
“I said no, I didn't want to write a melodrama about an abused woman.”
people (prior role):
Park Hae-il → The Host.
Park Hae-il is known from the Bong Joon-ho movie The Host and had never worked with Park Chan-wook before.
lineage (influence):
Decision to Leave → Brief Encounter.
Park cites David Lean's Brief Encounter as the romantic vibe he was thinking of instead of Vertigo.
“He says, brief encounter, the David Lean film. is more what he's thinking of in terms of vibe.”
craft (visual gag comparison):
Decision to Leave → RoboCop.
The husband's cartoon fall off the mountain is compared to the Dick Jones stop-motion fall at the end of Robocop.
“He does like a like a end of Robocop Dick Jones fall, basically.”
lineage (genre lineage):
Decision to Leave → Insomnia.
A sleepless cop is called part of the sleepy-cop canon, with Pacino's Insomnia as the reference.
“But this movie is in the detective dormer canon of sleepy cops who can't go to sleep.”
unmapped (fight realism):
Decision to Leave → Eastern Promises.
Eastern Promises has similarly clumsy, human fight sequences where skin is actually pierced, like the knife-and-chain-mail scene.
“That movie has some similarly, like, very, very human fight sequences”
craft (plot structure):
Decision to Leave → Strangers on a Train.
The pills and Slappy-kills-the-husband arrangement is called a Strangers on a Train swap by the detective and the hosts.
“I've seen my Hitchcock movies. This is some fucking strangers on a train ship.”
unmapped (borrowed magic bits):
Sherlock, Jr. → Houdini.
The dream sequence let Keaton use vaudeville and Houdini-style magic bits in a movie grounded in reality.
“there were magic bits that he knew from vaudeville, from Houdini and other magicians”
verdict (best work):
Charlie Chaplin → One A.M..
Griffin says Chaplin's one-man drunk-on-the-staircase short is the best thing Chaplin ever did, better than his features.
“which, for my money, is still the best thing Chaplain ever did, over his features.”
unmapped (theater-viewing):
Sherlock, Jr. → Rear Window.
A CalArts teacher argued certain films, like Sherlock Jr., should be seen in a theater while Rear Window can be appreciated at home.
“you can watch rear window at home and appreciate it.”
unmapped (coincidence gag):
Sherlock, Jr. → Pulp Fiction.
The wrong-man-walks-by coincidence in the pawn shop is compared to Ving Rhames walking by in Pulp Fiction.
“much like Ving Reims and Pulp Fiction, just happens to walk by at that moment.”
craft (effects analysis):
Sherlock, Jr. → Corridor Crew (YouTube channel).
A YouTube channel was stumped by three of the film's special-effects sequences, more than by modern movies.
“they were more stump trying to figure out the special effects of Sherlock Jr. than most modern movies.”
unmapped (cartoon logic):
Sherlock, Jr. → Wile E. Coyote cartoons.
Keaton riding the handlebars without noticing the driver is gone follows Wile E. Coyote logic.
unmapped (childlike innocence):
Sherlock, Jr. → Dumb and Dumber.
Keaton's baffled reaction to the sudden babies is compared to a childlike, non-sexual innocence like Dumb and Dumber.
“where he has a childlike innocence, so he is not drawn towards sexual situations, if I may be permitted in comparison.”
unmapped (same setup):
The Navigator → Cabin Boy.
A fancy lad must prove he is a tough man at sea, a setup that Cabin Boy repeats while looking like a Harryhausen movie.
“Chris Elliott and Adam Resnick's cabin boy is such a Buster Keaton setup.”
craft (craft):
Cabin Boy → Ray Harryhausen.
Cabin Boy is coded visually and tonally as a Ray Harryhausen movie, with stop motion and forced-perspective giants, even as its story is a Keaton setup.
“that movie is obviously so coded like visually and tonally as a Ray Harryhausen movie, but Chris Elliott and Adam Resnick's cabin boy is such a Buster Keaton setup”
craft (reaction style):
The Navigator → Harold Lloyd.
In the ghost-painting bit Keaton panics like a Harold Lloyd character instead of staying deadpan.
“He actually had kind of a Harold Lloyd reaction to this.”
craft (craft):
The Navigator → Victor Herbert.
A Navigator title card jokes about singing Kiss Me Again to the music of Alice, Where Art Thou; the speaker looked up that Kiss Me Again is by Victor Herbert.
“Kiss Me Again is an up-tempo, like, waltz. That I can imagine. I can basically picture what that's written by Victor Herbert”
unmapped (Rube Goldberg gag):
The Navigator → Pee-wee Herman.
The pulleys-and-ropes kitchen sequence is described as Pee-wee Herman and Rube Goldberg stuff.
lineage (remake):
Seven Chances → Chris O'Donnell.
Seven Chances is one of the rare Keaton films that was remade, with Chris O'Donnell as the Buster Keaton of our day.
“Yes, with the with the Buster Keaton of our day.”
industry (beat it at the Oscars):
Roddy McDowall → Citizen Kane.
Griffin says he used to think the Roddy McDowall film shouldn't have beaten Citizen Kane, then saw it and changed his mind.
“oh, that's the movie that shouldn't have beaten Season K.”
unmapped (shadow):
Henry Selick → Tim Burton.
A host says Burton's name overshadows Selick; people hear Nightmare Before Christmas and assume it is Burton's.
“It does really feel like the Burton thing is a shadow.”
contrast (documentary type contrast):
Claydream → The Sparks Brothers.
David assumed Claydream was a Sparks Brothers-style career overview but it is really about art within capitalism.
“I assumed it was maybe more of a Sparks Brothers type.”
unmapped (takeover fallout):
Will Vinton → Henry Selick.
After Vinton was pushed out of Will Vinton Studios by Nike's Knight, the company (Laika) went after Selick.
“They go after Henry Selleck, who's like the other giant stop motion, at least in America, right?”
unmapped (unfinished predecessor):
The Shadow King → Wendell and Wild.
The Shadow King combined stop motion with shadow animation; some of that is used in Wendell & Wild.
“And they use some of that in this film, Wendell and Wild.”
unmapped (protagonist note):
Monkeybone → Wendell and Wild.
Selick's pattern is to choose an adult / unconventional lead (retired pitchmen, a middle-aged nun) until a producer pushes for the kid.
“Anyway, with monkey bone, I wanted every character to be a 60s, you know, retired pitch man.”
fun, about
Vanilla Sky:
Griffin's casting story: a casting director warned him not to joke about 'can you hear me now?' when the Verizon actor wrote and directed a film.
“the writer and director of this film, who's going to be in the audition is the can you hear me now, guy?”
fun, about
Vanilla Sky:
The recording was spread over years because the hosts kept leaving the country, so references to a breakup will be five weeks stale on release.
“Having to re-listen to me make references to how sad I am right now 5 weeks from now when this episode's released.”