Loves Killer's Kiss and 1950s noir and studio-era trivia, and is happy to run the box office game from deep knowledge. Dislikes padded plotless first films, and is quick to point out what a first film is missing.
Stances
Killer's Kiss is a blast and more romantic than expected
Fear and Desire reads like a poem not a story
50s box office lists are full of forgotten programmers
Humor: Dry, British-inflected asides and fake-outraged bits.
David prefers Burton's Batman Returns and Batman Begins as his top live-action Batmans, and is more lukewarm than Griffin on Lego Batman, finding the middle stretch with other IP monotonous. He loves Lego as a kid (Ice Planet) and now covets expert-level Star Wars sets. He enjoys comedy-world gossip about Ellie Kemper and Michael Cera.
Stances
Not his favorite Batman movie because of the invading IP stuff
The middle stretch with the other villains is boring
Returns and Begins are his two favorite live-action Batmans
Humor: Dry teasing of Griffin and Ben, and self-aware dad jokes about buying Lego for his baby.
In their words
“Which have always been my 2 favorite live action Batman movies.” (0:00:55)
“So I think we just got through the stretch of the movie that I think is a little boring.” (1:14:42)
David asks the commonsense questions the film refuses to answer and loves a deadpan Occam's razor defense. He is a dad, a sports-box-office guy, and a sucker for a movie-history comparison, but he draws the line at being asked to like this.
Stances
Why would they not just skip the deal
Wants simple explanations (Occam's razor)
Calls Old Dogs a bad movie but finds it fascinating
Humor: Dry logic questions and quick film-reference comparisons.
Admires the film's production value and its comedic precision, and is the one reading box office data and quizzing. Can't stand the self-serious trend in Batman movies; a sucker for 60s epics and trivia about directors and casts.
Stances
Batman movies have raced toward self-serious credibility
Burton and Schumacher inherited the West show's tone and branding
Humor: Dry factual one-liners and pop-culture deflation.
In their words
“I think this is the the oldest film we've ever covered on this podcast.” (0:00:48)
“It's been this race to self-serious credibility.” (1:04:50)
Wanted to do Lean personally and expected Welles to win. Mild about Mel Brooks, worried about repetitiveness, but admires his cultural importance. Loves Planet of the Apes.
Stances
Fears Brooks may get repetitive
Pro-Lean
Humor: Dry and teasing with the Chip bit.
In their words
“I also would love to do lean personally.” (0:11:11)
A longtime defender who saw In the Cut at 17 and was 'well known for being the In the Cut is good person'. Loves Unfaithful, Addicted to Love and Kevin Bacon-style character work, and sweats the details of box-office history. (Speaker labels are inferred; the transcript has none.)
Stances
He has always been an In the Cut fan
2003 was a great year for commercial and art cinema alike
Humor: Rattles off box-office lists and trivia and teases Griffin about his taste.
In their words
“I was well known for being the in the cut is good person.” (0:09:26)
“Okay, fine. I love that movie.” (0:13:04)
“I was watching on Netflix out of convenience.” (0:52:44)
Likes campy, genre-aware Twilight and enjoyed New Moon for its challenges; likes old-timey vampire vs werewolf action and well-made lore. Hates inert scenes and kissing-free tension, and gets irritated by clutter/poor casting. A sucker for actors with dirtbag charisma and trivia on actors' careers. Attribution partly inferred; many lines unattributed.
Stances
New Moon is better
Casting of Riley/Victoria is the problem
Condon will lean into camp
Humor: Quick one-liners and pop-culture trivia.
In their words
“I will say, I am enjoying this old timey vampire versus werewolf action.” (0:45:48)
“Because I gotta tell you, this one, this one was a big knot.” (2:21:34)
A critic who has seen Covenant at a press screening and on 4K; likes Prometheus and Scott's ambition. Pays attention to who composed and wrote, and to the Alien franchise's lineage. Likes the film's double-Fassbender conceit and the stranger parts.
Stances
Scott hates humans and rich people
The two androids are the film's best part
Covenant is half Prometheus sequel, half studio-requested Alien
Humor: Sarcastic asides and escalating bits about David and the fake franchises.
In their words
“I have rewatched this like once since theaters.” (1:23:01)
Knows the production history cold (Danny Boyle, Whedon, Jeunet) and loves practical effects, animatronics, big industrial sets and character actors like Brad Dourif and Ron Perlman. Has a lifelong crush on Winona Ryder. Cannot stand when a movie stops to talk, or generic villains like Michael Wincott's.
Stances
Whedon and Jeunet were a terrible match
The first hour is fun, the talky middle is weak
The newborn alien is a big swing worth admiring
All the Alien movies are worth defending
Humor: Dry film-nerd with deadpan joke elaboration, especially mock Deadline headlines.
In their words
“I mean, I guess I have such an incredible weakness for Winona Rider, as you know, Griffin.” (0:37:58)
“I think alien movies need to be gnarly.” (0:23:09)
Defends Alien 3 as moody and Fincher-flavored but admits it is unrelentingly bleak. Loves the mythos of the Weyland-Yutani company and Sigourney Weaver. Cares about box-office history.
Stances
Alien 3 makes a defensible creative choice with a prison setting
The movie is flawed by a missing thesis about the prison
A box-office run-down belongs in every episode
Humor: Dry delivery; sets up bits with straight-faced trivia and plays the straight man to Griffin.
In their words
“I love the mythos of alien.” (1:53:27)
“Uh, yeah, it fell off 65% in its 2nd weekend.” (2:09:50)
Admires Fallout and McQuarrie's craft, loves Hitchcock-style set pieces and tight villains. Dislikes bloated plot mechanics and has strong feelings about Alec Baldwin's career.
Stances
Fallout may top Rogue Nation on rewatch
Rogue Nation's opera sequence is the series high point
Humor: Dry asides, comedy-point awards and speaking about England from lived experience.
In their words
“I did grow up in Britain, and this is the place where I grew up.” (1:35:19)
A native Upper West Sider (also raised partly in England) who knows the neighborhood the film is set in. Loves Meg Ryan's weirder rom-coms (Addicted to Love, Practical Magic) and award-season history. Likes to run quizzes and box-office games.
Stances
The Upper West Side is the film's real subject
Meg Ryan has more range than Hanks
Awards-season trivia reveals how rom-coms are dismissed
Humor: Trivia ambusher; pairs deadpan facts with pop-culture gossip.
In their words
“So I grew up on 89th and Amsterdam.” (0:24:20)
“David has many times tried to sell me on the idea of doing a Griffin Dunn miniseries because he so badly wants to cover her to love.” (1:21:31)
“So can you tell me the 5 nominees for best performance by an actor in a comedy or musical at the 1998 Golden Globes?” (1:42:56)
Runs the box office quiz and tracks the stars' careers across the 1990s (Matthau, Lemmon, Kudrow, Ryan). Likes the Ephron sensibility but finds this film lacking structure; loves Pitch Black context and sci-fi bargains. Cannot stand sentimental farewells like Tuesdays with Morrie.
Stances
The film needs a romantic subplot or tighter structure
Matthau's performance is the best thing in the movie
Tuesdays with Morrie is the worst film ever made
Humor: Dry, exasperated riffs on Hollywood economics and casting; sparring with Griffin over box office guesses.
In their words
“Okay, it's the worst film ever made.” (0:44:25)
“You can't fake rich LA, right?” (1:09:10)
“Anyway, the number one movie at the box office this weekend was the whole 9 yards.” (1:18:31)
Prefers the practical, performed experience over the movie and calls the film like eating mayonnaise from the jar. A sucker for shaggy gags and ironic Oscar talk.
Stances
The experience was better than the movie
Universal's rental model will work on desperate parents
Humor: Deadpan put-downs and analogies, such as the Olive Garden review.
In their words
“I think I tapped out at a certain point.” (0:45:34)
Defends the movie's big set pieces (speeder bike chase, the Emperor and Luke scenes) while admitting the structure is sloppy; loves Akbar and Harrison Ford's career lore. Hates the Emperor's flat conception and the late sibling reveal. Likes box office trivia and games.
Stances
Jedi has the weakest finish of the three
The Emperor is uncompelling as a character
Ewoks are fine; the problem is what Han and Leia do
Was a kid who thought Jedi was the best until a rewatch
Humor: Dry, tired asides and playful teasing of Griffin and Ben, getting punchier as the beers accumulate.
In their words
“Griffin thought that way until he was like 27 years old.” (1:49:51)
“I think that's the other major difference.” (1:00:53)
Critic-ish and enthusiastic: Portrait of a Lady on Fire is his movie of the year; loves Ashes Is Purest White, Dark Waters, Ad Astra, Knives Out. Values movie-star performances and gets visibly fond of overlooked films like Peterloo and Triple Frontier.
Stances
Portrait of a Lady on Fire is the year's best
Dark Waters will be re-evaluated; the film is underrated
Prefers Toy Story 4 more than expected
Humor: Dry; plays straight man and throws in lines like 'Absolute 0 Popes' reactions and the Becker running joke.
In their words
“That has been the movie for me all year.” (1:09:50)
Champion of Infinity War: loves how Thanos is the real protagonist and how the movie argues for caring about every character. Hates the idea that deaths must be final to matter, and loves actors' craft and box-office trivia. Nervous flyer who loves a road trip to Toronto.
Stances
Thanos is the protagonist and the film is about every character mattering
Killing characters is uninteresting; the loss is what counts
The MCU's crossover structure is a cinematic accomplishment
Humor: Deadpan overshare and cheerful self-roast, especially about his fear of flying.
In their words
“I'm a very nervous flyer.” (0:00:52)
“I think killing characters is uninteresting and usually, like, I just don't care for it.” (2:26:40)
Loves rules, systems and well-set-up action (Infinity Stone rules, Gamora's type-A bossiness, clear action goals); a box-office and Marvel-billing obsessive who makes spreadsheets. Respects Lee Pace's operatic villain and Drax. Dislikes Marvel's post-production sheen and the 'house style' gray. Speaker attribution is inferred from the room's teasing and is uncertain.
Stances
Lee Pace's Ronan is a great, underrated Marvel villain
Marvel's color grading is bad but the art direction is good
Humor in Guardians works as a storytelling aid
Humor: Gets teased as a bossy rules-loving spreadsheet guy and plays along with deadpan.
In their words
“I like type A tightwad characters.” (0:27:52)
“I like the Infinity Stone stuff because I like rules.” (1:10:54)
Their shows' recurring bits
Running bits, not opinions; a critic read aloud is cited, not present.
The Big Picture
Drafts: Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument.
Hall of Fame: A star's or director's best, ranked and argued.
Countdowns: Ranked lists, top five or top ten.
Blank Check with Griffin & David
The box office game: Guessing the film's opening weekend and what it was up against.
The sung theme: "Blank Check with Griffin and David", sung; the transcriber garbles it.
Their claims
Showing 101–200 of 1,091 claims.
unmapped (song):
Up Close & Personal → Diane Warren.
The film's Oscar-nominated song was written by Diane Warren and sung by Celine Dion.
“written by Diane Warrenburg performed by Celine Dion”
career (career arc):
John Travolta → Matthew McConaughey.
Travolta was never in the wilderness; he was like pre-McConaissance McConaughey, a bankable rom-com star not respected.
“I think it is closer to pre-ma connaissance, Matthew McConaughey.”
career (career pivot):
Look Who's Talking Now → Pulp Fiction.
Now came out a year before Pulp Fiction; it is the sort of film you make before saying fine to a weird guy's script.
“Look who's talking now is the kind of movie that you make where you're like, fine, I'll be the heroin addict in that weird guy's fucking script, I guess.”
people (peak performance):
Get Shorty → John Travolta.
The speaker calls Get Shorty their favorite Travolta movie-star performance, quiet and controlled.
“I do think that is my single favorite Travolta movie star performance.”
lineage (sequel):
Look Who's Talking → Look Who's Talking Too.
The sequel keeps Willis, adds Roseanne for Joan Rivers, Damon Wayans, and Mel Brooks as Mr. Toilet.
craft (score should have won):
Hans Zimmer → The Thin Red Line.
The Thin Red Line score should have won the Oscar even though it is unusually deployed in the film.
“Hans Stimmer should have won for the thin red line, although I think that score is sort of oddly deployed in the movie.”
industry (same-year rival):
Empire of the Sun → Hope and Glory.
Hope and Glory, another child's-view war story that year, ate Empire's lunch with critics.
“is Hope and Glory not also this same year when it kind of eats this movie's lunch on this sort of or from the perspective of a child thing, at least at the time?”
unmapped (mentorship / elder filmmaker):
David Lean → Steven Spielberg.
Spielberg befriended old masters (Lean, Kubrick, Wilder) who handed him their projects.
“The sort of string of great older filmmakers who somehow, uh, collaborated with Spielberg, only for Spielberg to wind up directing their movies.”
career (career parallel):
Christian Bale → Henry Thomas.
Both were kid actors Spielberg discovered who had to escape that shadow before being safe as adult actors.
“Christian Bale had a bit of a parallel Henry Thomas arc where for a while it was like he can't come out from the shadow of him being a kid that Spielberg discovered”
unmapped (development history):
Interstellar → Steven Spielberg.
Interstellar was developed by Spielberg and Jonathan Nolan and is closer to Spielberg in its first script.
“Jonathan Nolan's script for Interstellar is interesting, but it's more Spielberg.”
what-if (Oscar what-if):
Planes, Trains and Automobiles → Wall Street.
Planes, Trains and Automobiles should have won best actor for Candy that year, over Michael Douglas in Wall Street.
“Yeah, the movie that should have won best actor this year.”
craft (craft):
George Lucas → Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Lucas directed much of the second unit, taking over a lot of the stunt-heavy truck chase work to get the movie finished.
career (career):
Clash of the Titans → Ray Harryhausen.
Clash of the Titans is described as the last work of Ray Harryhausen, a throwback where he does one last.
people (cast continuity):
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me → David Bowie.
Philip Jeffries, Bowie's character from Fire Walk with Me, is now a giant teapot directing an agency against Mr. C, since Bowie died in 2016.
“Philip Jeffries, the David Bowie character, who is now a giant teapot, is like directing an agency against Mr. C.”
“we're such a big part of Twin Peaks the return, but of course they're in Firewalk with me in this sort of kind of goofier way where they're like guys in flannel.”
unmapped (role growth):
Sheryl Lee → Twin Peaks: The Return, Part 8.
Laura Palmer began as a wrapped-in-plastic day-player prom photo and became so central that Part 8 treats her as the counterweight to Bob.
“But for like the the twin peaks the return to be like, yes, Laura Palmer is the fucking Iron Man to Bob Thanos.”
unmapped (black-and-white CGI):
Twin Peaks: The Return, Part 8 → Mad Max: Fury Road.
Fury Road in black and white, heavy on CGI and wordless, feels like a silent film, the same illusion as Part 8's black-and-white digital effects.
“The one I find entrancing is Fury Road for that reason.”
theme (theme):
Dune → Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope.
Dune's Fremen/revolution material is the denser source that Star Wars abstracts; the Force is Dune without the drugs.
“the Force in Star Wars is like doom without the drugs.”
industry (peer rivalry):
Decision to Leave → Bong Joon-ho.
Park constantly goes up against his buddy Bong, who has only been submitted twice for the Oscars.
“And his buddy Bong, he's got to constantly go up against.”
career (career context):
The Handmaiden → Stoker.
Handmaiden was partly Amazon-funded, so after Stoker and Drummer Girl the Hollywood door was open for Park.
“Right, and Handmaiden is Korean film, obviously, but that was partly funded, I think, by Amazon, right?”
theme (anecdote parallel):
Steven Soderbergh → David Fincher.
Soderbergh's story of Fincher's hyper-precise color notes is used to explain a protagonist who cannot turn off noticing.
“I cannot imagine the curse of being able to notice that.”
people (same actor):
Decision to Leave → Lust, Caution.
Tang Wei broke out in Lust, Caution, a film about a seduction that may turn real, a similar tension to this film.
“But it's a movie about, basically, she has to seduce a man as an act of political espionage and the whole movie hinges on like, is she falling in love with him?”
career (career placement):
Decision to Leave → The Handmaiden.
Handmaiden was the last Park film several of them had seen before this one; Griffin ranks it his number one.
“I haven't seen a Park John Rook film since The Handmaiden, which blew my mind.”
people (cast connection):
Tatiana Maslany → Eastern Promises.
Tatiana played the victim Tatiana in Eastern Promises, an early film credit that David had never connected.
“I had never put this together, that you are the victim in Eastern promises.”
craft (style comparison):
Decision to Leave → The Handmaiden.
Decision to Leave is more restrained than The Handmaiden but still has wild camera moves.
“I guess he means more restrained than the Handmaiden.”
unmapped (texting in film):
Steven Soderbergh → Decision to Leave.
Soderbergh is called one of the few major auteurs who head straight into the smartphone present, as Park does with texting.
“And Soderberg is one of the few guys who like head straight into it.”
people (standout performance):
Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile → Javier Bardem.
The movie is garbage but Bardem is called incredible in it as a failed circus entertainer.
“Yeah, that movie sucks, but Javier Bird has incredible in it.”
contrast (sentiment contrast):
Buster Keaton → Charlie Chaplin.
Chaplin can be accused of sentimentalizing and acting cute, which Keaton's understated style never does.
“you can accuse Chaplain of sentimentalizing, a chaplain of sort of acting cute.”
unmapped (canonical reference):
The Crowd → Jean-Luc Godard.
Godard reportedly said there was no need to make films about ordinary people because The Crowd already existed.
people (acting contrast within the film):
Sherlock, Jr. → Buster Keaton.
The rival and his crew do stereotypical heavy silent-film acting, which makes Keaton's modern performance stand out.
“those 2 guys are absolutely doing what most people think of as silent film acting.”
unmapped (ahead of his time):
Buster Keaton → New Hollywood acting.
Keaton acts like a talkie actor decades early, exploiting that nobody can hear the dialogue.
“he's acting like a talkie actor, but he's using the fact that you can't hear what he's saying.”
contrast (character contrast):
Buster Keaton → Charlie Chaplin.
Chaplin's tramp would pocket the money or even lift the wallet, while Keaton is not a scoundrel.
“which once again, Chaplin would not only not hesitate for a moment to pocket the money, he would pull the wallet out of the back pocket of someone.”
people (co-director):
Sherlock, Jr. → Roscoe (Fatty) Arbuckle.
Arbuckle was brought on as co-director and given the pseudonym William B. Goodrich, then edged out.
“this is the movie where he came up with uh, William B. Goodrich, which was his, like, nom de plume for directing, uh, Freddie Arbuckle.”
unmapped (reassignment):
Roscoe (Fatty) Arbuckle → The Red Mill.
Keaton's memoir says he and others conspired to get Arbuckle a job on The Red Mill, though historians say the dates do not fit.
“conspired to get him a different job on a different movie called the Red Mill.”
unmapped (comedy opening):
Sherlock, Jr. → Kumail Nanjiani.
Nanjiani says a comedy should open with a guy spilling hot coffee, and Keaton opens with a guy under the boot.
“the opening of any comedy movie should be a guy accidentally spilling hot coffee on himself.”
people (cinematographer collaboration):
Sherlock, Jr. → Elgin Leslie.
Keaton and his long-term DP set up the black-velvet and matched-position effects together.
lineage (homage):
Sherlock, Jr. → What's Up, Doc?.
The Chinese-dragon bicycle chase in What's Up, Doc? is a complete homage to the stag-party sequence.
“The bicycled Chinese dragon sequence and what's up dog is complete homage to this sequence.”
unmapped (same hook):
The Navigator → The General.
Both started from Keaton getting hold of a vehicle and building the movie around it, but The General is a real movie while The Navigator is a series of bits.
“It is so similar to what the general eventually is where he's like, vehicle?”
unmapped (boat movie):
The Navigator → Steamboat Bill Jr..
Steamboat Bill Jr. is another boat-bit movie but with a real emotional spine about the father.
“is another boat bit movie, but it's a boat bit movie that's more about the father.”
unmapped (period-accuracy obsession):
The General → Stanley Kubrick.
Keaton's obsessive uniform and detail accuracy on The General was Kubrickian, a push as a director beyond comedy.
“he was so obsessed with like fucking, you brought it up, James, but like Kubrickian, every fucking uniform has to be period accurate.”
unmapped (critic's reading):
The Navigator → Dennis Schwartz.
A modern reviewer says its theme of civilized man versus the machine explains why it was a hit.
“its theme of civilized man versus the machine, seen as making life difficult for modern man because we have become so dependent on it”
people (acting credit):
Noble Johnson → The Thief of Baghdad.
Johnson plays the Prince of the Indies in The Thief of Baghdad, another indigenous potentate in his long list of credits.
career (comeback context):
Monkeybone → Brendan Fraser.
Monkeybone is the film being skipped in the Brendan Fraser comeback conversation.
“It truly feels like the one that is being skipped.”
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Wendell & Wild ·
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David Sims
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unmapped (viewing schedule):
Wendell and Wild → The Whale.
David planned to see The Whale right after Wendell & Wild at TIFF but skipped it after the Airbnb ordeal.
“I was supposed to see the whale next.”
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David Sims
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unmapped (Netflix algorithm):
Wendell and Wild → Wednesday.
Typing 'Wen' brings Wendell & Wild up because of Wednesday's popularity, though JD Amato says Netflix never recommended it.
“Surely the algorithm's like, hey, you know, you might like Wendell and Wild.”
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0:36:43 ·
David Sims
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industry (parallel Disney deals):
Guillermo del Toro → Henry Selick.
Disney gave del Toro a spooky-movie imprint and Selick his own animation studio, investing in artists to form new Pixars.
“And there was that Gimbla Toro Disney double dare you where they were like, we're giving you your own imprint to make spooky movies.”
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David Sims
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unmapped (story note):
Jordan Peele → Wendell and Wild.
Peele pushed to make teen Kat the protagonist instead of the nun, to make the movie accessible to kids.
“And Jordan Peele was like, cat should be the protagonist.”
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David Sims
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industry (studio-notes buffer):
Tim Burton → Henry Selick.
Burton played the calming intermediary on Nightmare and, less so, James and the Giant Peach; Monkeybone had no such figure.
“Burton doing that for him to a far lesser degree on the 2nd movie.”
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David Sims
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unmapped (absent protector):
Bill Mechanic → Monkeybone.
Mechanic, who shielded Selick, was gone by Monkeybone, so it was chaos.
“He had Bill Mechanic and the Bill Mechanic was gone.”
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David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
verdict (freedom made best film):
Coraline → Henry Selick.
Coraline was made with Laika hands-off, and it is his best film, so maybe studio notes are not needed.
“It does seem like he was pretty unfettered, and that is his best film.”
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David Sims
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unmapped (Pixar brain-trust meddling):
The Shadow King → Brave.
Both were cases of the Pixar brain trust pressing a filmmaker's personal story into Pixar principles.
“which this is the same time that the brave thing goes down.”
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David Sims
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people (caricature casting):
Wendell and Wild → The Incredible Mr. Limpet.
Making the characters caricatures of Key and Peele is likened to the Mr. Limpet trick of putting the star's face on the animated character.
“Like we have to make the characters caricatures of them, almost like it's the incredible Mr. Limpet or something”
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David Sims
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lineage (design lineage):
Lou Romano → The Incredibles.
Romano's Incredibles work has a similar 2D/3D look, which made him right for Wendell & Wild.
“Right, particularly because of the Incredibles, which has that similar kind of like 2D 3D thing.”
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David Sims
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craft (tone and structure):
Wendell and Wild → Beetlejuice.
Wendell and Wild are Beetlejuice-like in that the story is really about the human teen (Lydia/Kat) and they are the colorful characters.
“They're Beetlejuicy in the movie in that it's like, well, it's really about Lydia.”
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1:16:53 ·
David Sims
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unmapped (same dynamic):
Keegan-Michael Key → Toy Story 4.
Toy Story 4 gives Key and Peele the same high-strung idea man / good-natured stoner dynamic as Wendell and Wild.
“Toy Story 4 gives them basically the exact same dynamic where the one guy's the motor mouth”
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1:21:20 ·
David Sims
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craft (tone):
Wendell and Wild → Coraline.
The kindness shown to Kat, with quiet sadness, is likened to the boredom sequences in Coraline.
“it's it's similar to the sort of the boredom sequences and core line where, uh, Everyone's kind to cat.”
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1:28:33 ·
David Sims
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contrast (contrast of setup):
Wendell and Wild → The Nightmare Before Christmas.
Imagines Nightmare's Halloween Town opening as ten minutes of dialogue introducing each denizen as a plot function, to describe how Wendell & Wild feels.
“It feels like if in the opening, this is Halloween sequence of nightmare before Christmas.”
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Wendell & Wild ·
1:31:00 ·
David Sims
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“We don't ask these same questions of someone like Oogie Boogie.”
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David Sims
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unmapped (accept the lore):
Wendell and Wild → Kingdom Hearts (game series).
The hellmaiden rules are like Kingdom Hearts lore: you just accept them because those are the rules.
“Those are the rules because those are the rules.”
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David Sims
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industry (oscar ballot):
Wendell and Wild → Mad God.
A host voted Mad God first and Wendell & Wild second on the Critics Circle animation ballot.
“I voted for Mad God of the Critics Circle because I was like, well, that's the thing I really think.”
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David Sims
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industry (box-office rivalry):
Smile → Halloween Ends.
Smile, headed straight to Paramount+, outgrossed Halloween Ends, which was day-and-date on Peacock.
“Got crushed by smile.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Wendell & Wild ·
2:06:51 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
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fun, about
The Last Temptation of Christ:
Jesus building a crude cross opens the film; hosts riff on the chair-inventing scene in Gibson's film and the invention of chairs.
fun, about
The Last Temptation of Christ:
Watched the film then the Criterion vintage commentary, intercut among Cox, Schrader, Scorsese and Defoe, recorded as multiple interviews edited together.
“And it's intercutting between Cox, Schrader, Scorsese, and Defoe.”
fun, about
The Last Temptation of Christ:
Novel history: Kazantzakis published 1955, Orthodox Church tried to excommunicate him; Scorsese first heard of it as an NYU student and only read it around 1972-79.
“The novel, presented Deeply Human Christ, contemplating a normal life spent with Mary Magdalene”
fun, about
Paul Schrader:
Schrader's first draft had Jesus taking his heart out and a literal Last Supper of eating flesh; his big contribution was outlining 300-400 scenes from the book.
“Paul's 1st version, apparently, he has Jesus taking his heart out.”
fun, about
Casting Jesus:
Candidates for Jesus included Aidan Quinn, Eric Roberts, De Niro (who said he can't wear a robe) and Walken; Sting was to be Pilate in the first Paramount attempt.
“De Niro's response was, I don't think I can wear a robe.”
fun, about
Martin Scorsese:
After Scarface flopped with Hollywood audiences, De Palma asked Scorsese if they would become teachers; Scorsese says he couldn't do anything else.
fun, about
Willem Dafoe:
Dafoe first declined; at a second meeting Scorsese's explanation within minutes convinced him he was the only person who could play Jesus.
fun, about
Harvey Keitel:
Keitel's Brooklyn-accented, red-haired Judas earned a Razzie nomination, which hosts defend; Scorsese wanted him to embody violence and anger.
fun, about
The Last Temptation of Christ:
With only five centurions, Scorsese whip-panned among them to suggest twenty-five without ever showing them in one frame.
“And he reuses 5 centurions to make them 25 centurions.”
fun, about
Irvin Kershner:
Empire Strikes Back director plays Zebedee; hosts digress to the Magic Roundabout's Zebedee and spot the call-out of 'Judith' from the background.
“Yes, is Irving Kirschner, director of Empire Strikes Back.”
fun, about
Star Trek TNG 'The Inner Light':
Picard living fifty years in a village in minutes is the lens for Jesus' long dream life, ending with the creepy-girl Satan reveal.
“The whole episode is him living an entire episode.”
fun, about
The Last Temptation of Christ:
The final crucifixion film burn: a cameraman exposed the magazine too early, ruining film in the final shot, and the flashing light damage was kept.
fun, about
Peter Gabriel:
Gabriel did the score nearly free, mixing voices from around the world; it was released as Passion and is credited as breakthrough for world music in America.
fun, about
The Last Temptation of Christ:
Box office: opened August 12, 1988, number 13, about $8M domestic and around $30M worldwide; one Oscar nomination (Scorsese for director), Hershey and score got Globe nods.
fun, about
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World:
David states it is one of his ten favorites and Griffin says he texted it was the best movie ever made; David jokes he should have put it on his Sight and Sound ballot.
“I think I should just, like, next time I do sight and sound, stop being like, moo, I love, you know, some important movie, so just fucking put this on there.”
fun, about
Tom Rothman:
Rothman was a studio exec who had long wanted to make the Aubrey books; he handed Weir a captain's sword, saying take command of the HMS Surprise, and Weir asked to keep the sword.
“is take command of the HMS surprise. And Peter Weir is like, can I keep the sword?”
fun, about
Peter Weir:
Weir's directing patience: he rewrote the property into a friendship story, using the 10th book (The Far Side of the World) for the subtitle instead of the first book.
“I want it to be on the friendship of Aubrey Maturin.”
fun, about
Paul Bettany:
Bettany refused the boot-camp costume T-shirt with his character's name so Maturin would feel apart from everyone; he trained in amputations and fish-cutting instead of sailing.
fun, about
Sound design:
At the Academy Museum, Weir's featurette says the rough impressionistic sound pass beat the version where every sound was justified, which was cacophonous.
“when it became too justified and you were trying to account for everything, it was cacophonous and it didn't work.”
fun, about
United Flight 232:
The author was inspired by this crash, where a freak mechanical failure still left 180 survivors; simulations never match the result.
“And then he, in 89, reads about the notorious United Flight 232 crash.”
fun, about
Fearless casting:
Weir's first call was Mel Gibson, who was busy directing The Man Without a Face and, when told Bridges was second choice, said he wanted Bridges for his own film.
“And Weir says Jeff Bridges and Mel was like, fuck.”
fun, about
Winona Ryder / Jeff Bridges:
The studio wanted Ryder and a screen-test kiss; Bridges refused in front of the executives, saying he was way too old.
fun, about
Rosie Perez:
On the WTF podcast she said that crew asked if she was okay after takes because the emotion looked extreme, and that she only began processing her childhood after the film.
“And that it was Fearless was one of the things where everyone was just like, are you okay during the scenes?”
fun, about
Fargo / critics:
Halliwell's Film Guide (stingy with stars) gave Fargo four; Siskel and Ebert both rapturous, and Ebert's review ends with 'Films like Fargo are why I love the movies.'
“Films like Fargo are why I love the movies is how his review ends.”
fun, about
Bolt:
Travolta's second-highest worldwide grosser is Disney's Bolt, which was the rewritten, normalized version of Chris Sanders's weirder road-trip animal movie.
“It is Disney's Bolt, which made 328 million dollars worldwide.”
fun, about
Dune:
See the cat-and-rat milking scene: Thufir must milk a cat taped to a rat for the antidote; pure Lynch, not in the book, and Thufir is never seen again.
“Inside a space cat carrier, and you're going to have to milk this cat for the antidote to the poison.”
fun, about
Decision to Leave:
Chain mail glove: the detective puts on a chain mail glove in a rooftop chase against a man with a knife; the hosts note both men are too winded to move fast so he has time. David pulls up Amazon listings.
“The perp pulling the knife is him kind of saying like, so just give me like 90 seconds to catch up.”
fun, about
Tang Wei:
The hosts' joke pitch: a TV show where Tang Wei returns every season with a new husband who dies, like Sideshow Bob trying to kill Bart.
fun, about
Sherlock, Jr.:
Gillette's title card plays on razor brands (Gillette, Ever-Ready, Gem); the studio's name on screen, Veronal, was a sleeping drug.
fun, about
Sherlock, Jr.:
Walking into the movie screen looks like a miracle: it is a second set built behind the proscenium and lit differently so it reads as a flat projected image.
“And he just steps casually into the screen, and it feels like a miracle”
fun, about
Sherlock, Jr.:
Keaton matched his body position across cuts to wildly different locations, shots made hours or weeks apart, by overlaying the earlier film.
“they had an initial shot of him and then they like put the film over the film.”
fun, about
Sherlock, Jr.:
Keaton's baby-gag reading: every other movie cue he can copy in real time, but he cannot produce twin babies; contributors read it as a joke about movies skipping the 9 months.
fun, about
The Navigator:
A title card says going on a honeymoon without a bride is like singing 'Kiss Me Again' to the tune of 'Alice, Where Art Thou' (a fast waltz versus a slow plaintive song).
“going on a honeymoon without a bride is like singing in the words of Kiss Me Again to the music of Alice, where art thou?”
fun, about
The Navigator:
The last 20 minutes (island of cannibals) are old-school white panic racism, where Keaton's timelessness 'falls to the ground'.
“It's 20 minutes of old school white panic racism.”
fun, about
The Navigator:
A cut gag sent a starfish with a badge directing fish traffic; previews showed the audience was caught up in the story and it cost 10 grand.
“apparently they'd spent 10 grand on that gag and they had to cut it.”
fun, about
Wendell & Wild / David Sims:
David saw the film at a TIFF 9 AM press screening after a night of fire alarms and an accidentally armed security system in a Toronto Airbnb; he says it healed him.
“I'm gonna put my clothes on, and I'm gonna walk my ass over to the light box and just watch Wendolyn Wild, because at least there won't be a fire alarm.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Wendell & Wild ·
0:26:55 ·
David Sims
(0.80 sure it was them)
fun, about
Comedy Central / Review:
Comedy Central refused to license to streaming after Broad City boomed on Hulu, so shows like Review were stuck on a bad app.
“We are never licensing any of our shows to a streaming service ever again.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Wendell & Wild ·
0:55:45 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Wendell & Wild / Jordan Peele:
Originally the nun Sister Helley was the protagonist; Peele's note was to make teen Kat the lead so kids can identify. Selick: it took a while to convince him.
“It's the easiest note in the world, Henry Selling.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Wendell & Wild ·
1:02:20 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Wendell and Wild:
A hellmaiden's cold open: the car crash, the punk boombox with a bloodshot eye, and X-Ray Spex on the radio ground the first seven minutes.
“She's listening to x-ray specs on the radio.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Wendell & Wild ·
1:24:46 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Wendell & Wild soundtrack:
The punk and new-wave soundtrack includes X-Ray Spex, Fishbone, The Specials, TV on the Radio for the finale, and Special Interests.
“Their song, Young, Gifted Black and Leather fucking rules.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Wendell & Wild ·
1:30:04 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Wendell & Wild / Buffalo Belzer:
The giant puppet heads were built so the faces are articulated; Belzer's hand is built to scale, about 15 feet tall, and you can see it in the credits.
“The hand is like 15 feet tall.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Wendell & Wild ·
1:35:06 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Wendell and Wild:
The undead city council members are skeletons from past centuries, which David finds a clever, laugh-out-loud idea.
“Like, what if you brought back New York's city council from like the 18th century”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Wendell & Wild ·
1:40:33 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Wendell and Wild:
The trans character Raul's identity is handled quietly through context clues, which they praise over self-congratulatory progressive films.
“It's basically like stated only through context clues, you know?”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Wendell & Wild ·
1:55:14 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Black Adam:
Hosts mock a leaked-documents campaign to prove Black Adam profited, noting half the profit is Warner paying itself through HBO Max and billboards.
“Half of that profit is the amount of money that Warner Brothers pays itself through HBO Max.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Wendell & Wild ·
2:02:36 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Monkeybone:
Bit about Monkeybone's final sequence: it looks like rear projection, and Brendan Fraser is made up more monkeylike with a unibrow, bigger teeth and organs falling out.
“It looks like deliberately artificially like they're just in front of a screen kind of shit.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Wendell & Wild ·
2:14:22 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Bob Fosse:
After near-death experiences Fosse would try to live healthier for a month and then go back to chain smoking and squeezing nurses.
“smoking cigarettes until they're burning in his mouth and squeezing every nurse's ass”
fun, about
Fosse ranking:
Griffin: Cabaret, All That Jazz, Lenny, Star 80, Sweet Charity; David: Cabaret, All That Jazz, Sweet Charity, Lenny, Star 80; Julie argues Sweet Charity above Star 80.
fun, about
An Angel at My Table:
Made for TV as three episodes, but it conquered Venice: crowds chanted for the film for ten minutes, though it only won the runner-up prize.
“people were shouting angel, angel for 10 minutes”
fun, about
Janet Frame:
Days or hours from a lobotomy, Frame was spared when she won a literary prize, and the film tosses it off as the halfway point.
“It's completely bananas that she was like days or hours from a lobotomy.”
fun, about
Annie:
David says Annie is famously the first movie he ever saw; Dana saw original Broadway Annie at 12 and decided then to live in New York.
“I think it was, it's famously the 1st movie I ever saw.”
fun, about
John Carpenter:
Drew McWeeny's story: asked his favorite Carpenter movie, McWeeny said Starman and Carpenter said 'ah, a romantic'; Carpenter tests fans for being softies.
fun, about
Starman script:
Original script ended with Starman blowing up the government with his ray gun; Dean Reisner's rewrite humanized it; he got no credit but the film is dedicated to him.
fun, about
Jeff Bridges:
Oscar story: Pfeiffer recalled Bridges had broken capillaries painted on his nose for Baker Boys; 'doesn't read on camera' - 'yeah, but it helps me'.
fun, about
Ricki and the Flash:
A theory that the film would have worked better if cheaper and quieter, as a Meryl who agreed to be in a Demme movie, rather than Meryl hiring Demme.
“and it was Meryl agreeing to be in a Jonathan Demi movie rather than Meryl hiring Jonathan Demi.”
fun, about
Nausicaä's origin:
Miyazaki could not sell a new film after Cagliostro, so a manga publisher offered a life raft; after a couple of years of manga he finally pitched it as a movie, though he had never intended one.
“The publisher of the manga reaches out to him and says, I liked Castle of Cagliostro, would you want to try to do something in print?”
fun, about
King Kong (Broadway):
Both hosts say the Broadway King Kong musical is bad except for the enormous puppet, which they enjoyed more than anything else they did not like.
“the puppet is so fucking strong that I did not care that I did not care about the rest of it.”
fun, about
Warriors of the Wind:
The 95 minute US cut has no listed cast, a heavy metal style poster where Nausicaä is the smallest figure, and renames her Princess Zandra.
fun, about
Nausicaä's long action sequence:
David timed it: roughly 35 straight minutes of action, ending in the Ohmu stampede with the missile-pierced baby, and wonders what a kid gets from it.
“there's just this sort of bananas, like 35 minutes of action.”
fun, about
The Hustle:
The Hustle, the gender-flipped Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, was almost titled Nasty Women, which David thinks would have been the correct title.
fun, about
John Wick: Chapter 3:
The hosts argue Chapter 3 is the best Wick because Keanu is so natural in a heightened world and the scenes are choreographed with minimal cuts; a Twitter pile-on about 'not concluding a trilogy' followed.
“Barry Bosswick is the waspiest actor of all time.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Flesh+Blood ·
0:39:53 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Flesh and Blood:
Movie wasn't released wide and went quickly to HBO, where it became cult.
“It became like a somewhat well-known cult movie.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Flesh+Blood ·
0:43:09 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Susan Tyrrell:
Griffin did not know she was in the film, was glad.
“She's amazing in this movie.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Flesh+Blood ·
0:46:09 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Flesh and Blood:
The film sets a dog-meat plague scene and a flaming halo shot.
“I mean, there's also that incredible shot of later in the movie where he's got the burning wheel behind his head.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Flesh+Blood ·
1:08:41 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Bruno Kirby:
A mousy character actor in the film, always in film history by being in five beloved movies.
“he's been in like 5 of the most beloved movies of all time.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Flesh+Blood ·
1:27:03 ·
David Sims
(0.35 sure it was them)
fun, about
American Ninja:
What if we took ninjas, but made them more American; $3.2M opening.
“Well, it made, what if we took ninjas, but made them more American?”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Flesh+Blood ·
1:29:55 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Robert Altman:
Griffin would do Altman 1970 to 1980, not Buffalo Bill and the Indians.
“My pitch would be 1970 to 1980.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David ·
Flesh+Blood ·
1:39:16 ·
David Sims
(0.35 sure it was them)
fun, about
Michael Shannon:
David saw Michael Shannon eating a burger with a bunch of kids at Moo Burger, the first entry in the new Burger Report segment; Griffin followed with seeing Chivo Lubezki at Apple Pan.
“Oscar nominee, Michael Shannon, eating with a bunch of kids and a couple of adults eating his own bird.”
fun, about
Christopher Doyle:
Doyle is quoted as saying you cannot make a movie unless you've slept with a black woman and spent a night in jail; the hosts riff on it as the reason the party scene is illegible.
“a man who has said that you cannot make a movie unless you've slept with a black woman and spent a night in jail.”
fun, about
Lady in the Water:
Opened to 18 million, number three behind Pirates of the Caribbean and Monster House, and finished with 42 million domestic, 72 worldwide.
“It ended up with a grand total of $42 million, 72 worldwide.”
fun, about
Robert Downey Jr.:
On Inside the Actors Studio, Downey called Home for the Holidays the most relaxed performance in film history because of the heroin, and said Jodie Foster once confronted him.
“Yeah, home for holidays, which on that episode of Inside the Actor Studio, he refers to as the most relaxed performance in the history of film because of how much heroin he was on.”