Kevin Feige
Made films the shows talk about.
Wikidata Q515161: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only person by that name on Wikidata.
Counted as producer, the making department they hold the most credits in. The films the hosts said they produced, which the two lists below run through too: X-Men (2000); Iron Man (2008); The Incredible Hulk (2008); Iron Man 2 (2010); Captain America: The First Avenger (2011); Thor (2011); The Avengers (2012); Iron Man 3 (2013); Thor: The Dark World (2013); Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014); Guardians of the Galaxy (2014); Avengers: Infinity War (2018); Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022). Count them as studio (1 film) instead.
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
The Avengers (2012): 6 lines, within their own work
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lineage (lineage) · through Thor: The Dark World (2013), which they produced:
The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read).
The Dark World is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki: he becomes co-lead, Thor 1A to Loki 1B.
“This is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki, where they're like, we get it now.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:20:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
theme (theme) · through Iron Man 3 (2013), which they produced:
The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read).
Stark's arc across three Iron Man films peaks in Iron Man 3, and Avengers lays the track for its PTSD.
“Iron Man 3 is all him being unable to cope with the psychological like trauma of this.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:07:49 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Thor: The Dark World (2013), which they produced:
The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read).
Avengers ends with the team scattering, which is why the Phase 2 sequels can stand alone.
“And also, Joss Wheaton's like master stroke at the end of Avengers is like, we're not a team.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:30:50 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
programming (programming) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they produced:
The Avengers ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy (the host's read).
Thanos' Chitauri subcontracting sets up the cosmic films; Guardians is next on their Marvel list.
“We're gonna we're gonna cover Peter movie soon.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:34:57 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Avengers: Infinity War (2018), which they produced:
The Avengers ⇒ Avengers: Infinity War (the host's read).
The Hulk echoes Tony Stark's words from the first Avengers; the movie is full of callbacks.
“echoing Tony Stark's words from the Avengers 2012”
Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 0:25:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man 3 (2013), which they produced:
The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read).
Iron Man 3 works as a quasi-sequel to The Avengers because it deals with Tony's trauma of the portal and aliens.
“Except it's it is a sort of quasi sequel to the Avengers in that it's dealing with the fact that he got sucked into a portal into space for a 2nd there.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:15:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Iron Man (2008): 3 lines, within their own work
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lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man 3 (2013), which they produced:
Iron Man ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read).
The Iron Man trilogy is closed into a circle by the flashback to the party and Becca Hall and Pierce.
“as individualistic as this movie is, it actually like... It's bringing the 1st 2 complete.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:18:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
theme (theme) · through Iron Man 3 (2013), which they produced:
Iron Man ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read).
Iron Man 3 later parodies the Osama-type Mandarin expectation that Iron Man originally planned (Ten Rings leader, no magic).
“And then Iron Man 3 wisely parodies that expectation.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:25:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (industry) · through The Avengers (2012), which they produced:
Iron Man ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read).
The post-credits Nick Fury scene established the shared-universe model that changed Hollywood for a decade or more.
“I mean, this has changed the next 10 years of Hollywood filmmaking.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:13:16 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Iron Man 2 (2010): 3 lines, within their own work
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theme (character introduction) · through Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022), which they produced:
Iron Man 2 ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read).
Van says the MCU has introduced characters inside other movies before, like Black Widow in Iron Man 2.
“Black Widow makes her a parent, her 1st appearance.”
The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:37:22 · Van Lathan (0.80 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they produced:
Iron Man 2 ⇒ Captain America: The First Avenger (the host's read).
The Stark Expo of the 1940s is the origin of the Expo seen in Iron Man 2, now as the full World's Fair version.
“Like what we see in Iron Man 2, but now it's like the full like 40s World Fair version.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:19:47 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man 3 (2013), which they produced:
Iron Man 2 ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read).
Iron Man 2's failure forced something new, giving Shane Black room to make a better third film.
“But also, that is why the 3rd one is good because the 2nd one was such a mistake that they were like, we don't know.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:20:47 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
Black Panther (2018): 2 lines
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theme (ancestral plane parallel) · through Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022), which they produced:
Black Panther ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read).
Van explains that in the first film T'Challa saw his father on the ancestral plane because he had questions for him, while Shuri saw Killmonger because she wanted revenge, the same motive Killmonger had.
“Shuri did not want to be the Black Panther to protect Wakanda.”
The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:32:14 · Van Lathan (0.85 sure it was them) -
unmapped (CGI weakness) · through Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022), which they produced:
Black Panther ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read).
The first film's video-game-looking CGI showdown is doubled down on in the sequel, with flying robots and an aircraft-carrier fight.
“You know, it just kind of looked like a video game a little bit.”
The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:46:42 · Amanda Dobbins (0.70 sure it was them)
Stan Lee: 2 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man (2008), which they produced:
Stan Lee ⇒ Iron Man (the maker said so: Stan Lee interviews).
The film follows the first comic issue's origin; Lee wanted to make an industrialist war profiteer compelling to hippie kids.
“here's like an industrialist, war profiteer, Laos, and make him like compelling to these, like, hippie kids.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:27:36 · unknown (probably David) (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they produced:
Stan Lee ⇒ Thor (the host's read).
The Donald Blake identity came from Stan Lee's 60s devotion to the secret-identity trope; the movie keeps it only as a fake ID gag.
“in the 60s, Stanley was a little slavishly devoted to like the classic superhero comic trope, so you needed a secret identity”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:08 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
The Incredible Hulk (2008): 2 lines, within their own work
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lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they produced:
The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read).
Avengers' line about Hulk 'breaking Harlem' is false: the Abomination did it.
“That's the one thing they reference in Avengers, where he says, I kind of broke Harlem.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:34:36 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they produced:
The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read).
Ruffalo's first Hulk scene in a slum echoes this film's Rocinha opening, though otherwise the continuity is thrown out.
“The only tale is that when the Mark Ruffalo hook was introduced, they find the little hot.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:25:11 · Griffin or David (0.25 sure it was them)
Three Days of the Condor (1975): 2 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), which they produced:
Three Days of the Condor ⇒ Captain America: The Winter Soldier (the maker said so).
The filmmakers say outright they were making a Condor movie.
“But they're like, we're like, we're making a 3 days of the Condor movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:27:10 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), which they produced:
Three Days of the Condor ⇒ Captain America: The Winter Soldier (the host's read).
The Russos and Marcus/McFeely were told they could make a Three Days of the Condor style political thriller inside the MCU, provided Feige got his Helicarrier back.
“You want to do a 3 day of the Condor movie?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:19:33 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Aliens (1986): 1 line
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craft (craft) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they produced:
Aliens ⇒ Captain America: The First Avenger (the host's read).
The frozen-find cold open structurally echoes the discovery sequence that opens Aliens.
“this is also actually very similar to is the opening of aliens.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:10:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Avengers: Infinity War (2018), which they produced:
Avengers: Age of Ultron ⇒ Avengers: Infinity War (the host's read).
The Hulkbuster armor pays off Banner being almost defeated by it before.
“it's paying off the fact that he was, you know, almost defeated by this armor before.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:00:15 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Blade (1998): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through X-Men (2000), which they produced:
Blade ⇒ X-Men (the host's read).
Blade is credited as the film that set the tone for the modern superhero era, with X-Men following two years later.
“the 1st superhero movie that really set the tone for what we consider the modern era of superhero films is Blade, 1998”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:01:16 · Jason Concepcion (0.70 sure it was them)
Captain America: Civil War (2016): 1 line
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theme (character introduction) · through Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022), which they produced:
Captain America: Civil War ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read).
Van says Black Panther was handled better in Civil War than in his own movie, and that Civil War served as his origin; Ironheart's introduction here does not land the same way.
“Black Panther, to me, was portrayed better in Civil War than he was in the original Black Panther movie.”
The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:37:09 · Van Lathan (0.85 sure it was them)
Captain America: The First Avenger (2011): 1 line, within their own work
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lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), which they produced:
Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Captain America: The Winter Soldier (the host's read).
Zola surviving and joining the other side is the seed for Winter Soldier.
“Because you need Zola to join the other side.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:34:27 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Doctor Who (2023): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Thor: The Dark World (2013), which they produced:
Doctor Who ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read).
Marvel in general is indebted to Doctor Who's tone of lightness, comedy, hope and teamwork, especially the Russell T Davies era.
“I think Marvel in general is very kind of indebted to Doctor Who with the same tone of like lightness and comedy and hope and team teamwork.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 2:02:06 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Ed Brubaker: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), which they produced:
Ed Brubaker ⇒ Captain America: The Winter Soldier (the host's read).
The film adapts the Brubaker Winter Soldier comic arc.
“They wanted to take the Ed Brubaker Winter Soldier Arc, which is one of the most famous Captain America Arcs.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:25 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Fu Manchu (character): 1 line
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theme (theme) · through Iron Man 3 (2013), which they produced:
Fu Manchu (character) ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read).
The Mandarin is a Fu Manchu stereotype that Marvel could not play straight, so Kingsley's false-flag twist threads the needle.
“Because the Mandarin is Fu Manchu.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 1:06:17 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Game of Thrones (2011): 1 line
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craft (craft) · through Thor: The Dark World (2013), which they produced:
Game of Thrones ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read).
The film aims for a grounded, muddy fantasy in the Game of Thrones manner, away from Branagh's version.
“We want to make a more grounded fantasy away from the bran off.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:11:39 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Hancock (2008): 1 line
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industry (industry) · through Iron Man 2 (2010), which they produced:
Hancock ⇒ Iron Man 2 (the host's read).
The Demon in a Bottle alcoholism arc was dodged partly because Hancock had already done a drinking superhero two months after the first Iron Man.
“Because Hancock comes out. 2 months after the 1st Iron Man.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:12:58 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Hulk (2003): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Incredible Hulk (2008), which they produced:
Hulk ⇒ The Incredible Hulk (the host's read).
Despite the reboot claim, the same three relationships (Hulk, Betty, Thunderbolt Ross) carry through, as does the South America opening.
“And those 3 relationships feel very much on a continuity with everything that happens in English film.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:06:37 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)
J. Michael Straczynski: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they produced:
J. Michael Straczynski ⇒ Thor (the host's read).
The film borrows heavily from Straczynski's celebrated Thor run, including Thor spending time in the Midwest.
“the celebrated Thor arc was J. Michael Stratinsky, which is this is borrowing from heavily.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:28 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Jack Kirby: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Avengers: Infinity War (2018), which they produced:
Jack Kirby ⇒ Avengers: Infinity War (the host's read).
Kirby's cosmic creations at Marvel, Galactus and the Silver Surfer, are the ancestors of this material.
“he creates galactus and silver surf and all these parrots”
Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 1:56:25 · Griffin Newman (0.35 sure it was them)
Jim Starlin: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Avengers: Infinity War (2018), which they produced:
Jim Starlin ⇒ Avengers: Infinity War (the host's read).
The cosmic Thanos comics were mostly Starlin and mostly dudes talking on half asteroids.
“Starlin stuff, mostly.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 1:52:56 · David Sims (0.30 sure it was them)
Masters of the Universe (1987): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they produced:
Masters of the Universe ⇒ Thor (the host's read).
Thor is described as essentially a remake of the live-action Masters of the Universe.
“It's mostly just a remake of the live action masters of the universe movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:03:54 · Griffin Newman (0.65 sure it was them)
Nicole Perlman: 1 line
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people (people) · them, directly:
Nicole Perlman ⇒ Kevin Feige (the maker said so: Feige and other people giving her credit).
Perlman, from Marvel's writers program, pushed them to make Guardians and take on space early.
“She gets a lot of credit from Feige and other people for, um, convincing them like, yeah, if you're going to do space, do guardians and do them early.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:19:28 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
RoboCop (2014): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man (2008), which they produced:
RoboCop ⇒ Iron Man (the host's read).
The Ironmonger voice and suit recall ED-209, and the finale is ED-209 versus RoboCop.
“You know what the voice is? He's Ed 209.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:53:20 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Star Wars: The Phantom Menace: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they produced:
Star Wars: The Phantom Menace ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read).
The Chitauri transport creature with troops jumping off recalls the Battle Droid transport.
“it's like the thing in Phantom Menace, the, uh, Battle Droid Transport.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:47:09 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Sydney Pollack: 1 line
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craft (craft) · through Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), which they produced:
Sydney Pollack ⇒ Captain America: The Winter Soldier (the host's read).
Winter Soldier's look is said to approximate a Sydney Pollack movie (transcribed 'Sydney Poland').
“And, you know, Captain America's sort of trying to approximate like a fucking Sydney Poland movie or whatever.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:34:31 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
The Incredible Hulk (1977): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Incredible Hulk (2008), which they produced:
The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Incredible Hulk (the host's read).
A speaker says the film reuses the old TV show's score, the sad-guitar cue from Bixby walking away, even though Craig Armstrong scored it.
“They used the score from the Incredible Hulk at some point in this movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:47:14 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Truth: Red, White & Black (comic): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they produced:
Truth: Red, White & Black (comic) ⇒ Captain America: The First Avenger (the host's read).
The one-off serum process loosely connects to the Truth miniseries retcon about earlier black experimentees.
“Truth is a book that essentially theorizes that there was like a Tuskegee airman.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:47:45 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
Iron Man 3 (2013): 5 lines, within their own work
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theme (theme) · through The Avengers (2012), which they produced:
The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read).
Stark's arc across three Iron Man films peaks in Iron Man 3, and Avengers lays the track for its PTSD.
“Iron Man 3 is all him being unable to cope with the psychological like trauma of this.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:07:49 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they produced:
The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read).
Iron Man 3 works as a quasi-sequel to The Avengers because it deals with Tony's trauma of the portal and aliens.
“Except it's it is a sort of quasi sequel to the Avengers in that it's dealing with the fact that he got sucked into a portal into space for a 2nd there.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:15:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man (2008), which they produced:
Iron Man ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read).
The Iron Man trilogy is closed into a circle by the flashback to the party and Becca Hall and Pierce.
“as individualistic as this movie is, it actually like... It's bringing the 1st 2 complete.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:18:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man 2 (2010), which they produced:
Iron Man 2 ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read).
Iron Man 2's failure forced something new, giving Shane Black room to make a better third film.
“But also, that is why the 3rd one is good because the 2nd one was such a mistake that they were like, we don't know.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:20:47 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them) -
theme (theme) · through Iron Man (2008), which they produced:
Iron Man ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read).
Iron Man 3 later parodies the Osama-type Mandarin expectation that Iron Man originally planned (Ten Rings leader, no magic).
“And then Iron Man 3 wisely parodies that expectation.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:25:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Captain Marvel (2019): 4 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they produced:
The Avengers ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read).
The Tesseract, the glowing box, was a MacGuffin in the first Avengers and in Infinity War.
“you may remember the Tesseract from the 1st Avengers film, and then, of course, the most recent Avengers film, Avengers Infinity War”
The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:09:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.85 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they produced:
Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read).
The film goes back to the Steve Rogers style of origin story.
“here's how Steve Rogers became a super soldier style of storytelling.”
The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:03:27 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they produced:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read).
As a prequel, Captain Marvel brings back Guardians characters Ronan (Lee Pace) and Korath (Djimon Hounsou).
“this is, of course, a prequel, so their characters appear in this film again.”
The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:43:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them) -
craft (craft) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they produced:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read).
The Flarkin cat in Captain Marvel is a version of the Drax metaphor joke, but this film's joke lands better thanks to the cut to his face.
“And you know, you know, the cat in Captain Marvel is like a version of this joke.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:46:06 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017): 4 lines
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craft (craft) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they produced:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (the host's read).
Vol. 2 used a brightly blue Yondu and a bright Milano interior to dodge the washed-out look of the first film's color grading.
“He's just smart about working in, like, I'm going to make his skin so bright blue.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:25:17 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they produced:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (the host's read).
The sequel deepens Yondu's relationship with Quill so the first film's scene reads differently in retrospect.
“Knowing what you know about their relationship that you learn in the sequel, you know, colors this scene a little bit more”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:26:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they produced:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (the host's read).
The sequel doubles down on Yondu's arrow by building its best action sequence around it.
“And then that the 2nd movie doubles down on it with like building its best action sequence around the era.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:42:42 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they produced:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (the host's read).
Vol. 2 is the movie that develops Nebula's backstory with Gamora; this film is about Quill and dads in embryo.
“Because 2 is the one that's gonna, you know, is trying to win you over to Nebula.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:43:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
The Avengers (2012): 3 lines, within their own work
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lineage (lineage) · through The Incredible Hulk (2008), which they produced:
The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read).
Avengers' line about Hulk 'breaking Harlem' is false: the Abomination did it.
“That's the one thing they reference in Avengers, where he says, I kind of broke Harlem.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:34:36 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (industry) · through Iron Man (2008), which they produced:
Iron Man ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read).
The post-credits Nick Fury scene established the shared-universe model that changed Hollywood for a decade or more.
“I mean, this has changed the next 10 years of Hollywood filmmaking.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:13:16 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through The Incredible Hulk (2008), which they produced:
The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read).
Ruffalo's first Hulk scene in a slum echoes this film's Rocinha opening, though otherwise the continuity is thrown out.
“The only tale is that when the Mark Ruffalo hook was introduced, they find the little hot.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:25:11 · Griffin or David (0.25 sure it was them)
Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015): 2 lines
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contrast (contrast) · through The Avengers (2012), which they produced:
The Avengers ⇒ Avengers: Age of Ultron (the host's read).
Age of Ultron opens with the team already together and Fury in hiding, so it is a sequel to five films rather than to Avengers.
“Avengers 2 can't be a sequel to Avengers one. It has to be a sequel to 5 other moments.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:39:42 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
programming (programming) · through Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), which they produced:
Captain America: The Winter Soldier ⇒ Avengers: Age of Ultron (the host's read).
The post-credits scene sets up the twins and Strucker's experiments.
“You know what they're setting up here, Benny.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:12:03 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
Thor: The Dark World (2013): 2 lines, within their own work
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lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they produced:
The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read).
The Dark World is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki: he becomes co-lead, Thor 1A to Loki 1B.
“This is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki, where they're like, we get it now.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:20:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they produced:
The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read).
Avengers ends with the team scattering, which is why the Phase 2 sequels can stand alone.
“And also, Joss Wheaton's like master stroke at the end of Avengers is like, we're not a team.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:30:50 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Ant-Man (2015): 1 line
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programming (programming) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they produced:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Ant-Man (the host's read).
After Guardians' success with unknown characters, Ant-Man was an easy next gamble.
“you do Ant-Man after that because you're just like, yeah, let's do Ant-Man.”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:17:03 · Jason Concepcion (0.40 sure it was them)
Avengers: Endgame (2019): 1 line
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unmapped (continuity) · through Avengers: Infinity War (2018), which they produced:
Avengers: Infinity War ⇒ Avengers: Endgame (the host's read).
Thor knowing where the reality stone is sets up a bad decision in Endgame.
“that plays into Endgame, and a bad decision they make”
Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 1:03:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Avengers: Infinity War (2018): 1 line, within their own work
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lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they produced:
The Avengers ⇒ Avengers: Infinity War (the host's read).
The Hulk echoes Tony Stark's words from the first Avengers; the movie is full of callbacks.
“echoing Tony Stark's words from the Avengers 2012”
Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 0:25:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Black Panther (2018): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they produced:
Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Black Panther (the host's read).
Vibranium, the shield metal, leads to Wakanda; adamantium is the X-Men analogue the MCU couldn't use.
“So instead they use vibranium as their super metal.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:27:32 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022): 1 line, within their own work
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theme (character introduction) · through Iron Man 2 (2010), which they produced:
Iron Man 2 ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read).
Van says the MCU has introduced characters inside other movies before, like Black Widow in Iron Man 2.
“Black Widow makes her a parent, her 1st appearance.”
The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:37:22 · Van Lathan (0.80 sure it was them)
Captain America (First Avenger / MCU): 1 line
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programming (programming) · through The Incredible Hulk (2008), which they produced:
The Incredible Hulk ⇒ Captain America (First Avenger / MCU) (the host's read).
The hero jumping out of a hangar plane becomes a recurring Marvel image, starting here and used in Black Panther and Captain America.
“And this is the 1st of what then becomes the Marvel trope where a hero is either pushed out of or jumps out of the back of like a hangar plane.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:31:34 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)
Captain America: The First Avenger (2011): 1 line, within their own work
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lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man 2 (2010), which they produced:
Iron Man 2 ⇒ Captain America: The First Avenger (the host's read).
The Stark Expo of the 1940s is the origin of the Expo seen in Iron Man 2, now as the full World's Fair version.
“Like what we see in Iron Man 2, but now it's like the full like 40s World Fair version.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:19:47 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014): 1 line, within their own work
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lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they produced:
Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Captain America: The Winter Soldier (the host's read).
Zola surviving and joining the other side is the seed for Winter Soldier.
“Because you need Zola to join the other side.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:34:27 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Chris Pratt: 1 line
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industry (industry) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they produced:
Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Chris Pratt (the host's read).
The beefcake shot of Pratt echoes Chris Evans out of the tank, and Marvel now puts one in every trailer.
“It's Chris Evans coming out of the tank, Captain America.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:37:48 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Ghostface Killah: 1 line
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people (people) · through Iron Man (2008), which they produced:
Iron Man ⇒ Ghostface Killah (the host's read).
Ghostface is the Wu-Tang member particularly obsessed with Iron Man, who is the avatar of many of his songs.
“Iron Man is like the like his hero.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:40:17 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Guardians of the Galaxy (2014): 1 line, within their own work
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programming (programming) · through The Avengers (2012), which they produced:
The Avengers ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy (the host's read).
Thanos' Chitauri subcontracting sets up the cosmic films; Guardians is next on their Marvel list.
“We're gonna we're gonna cover Peter movie soon.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:34:57 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Ironheart (2025): 1 line
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unmapped (backdoor pilot) · through Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022), which they produced:
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever ⇒ Ironheart (the host's read).
Amanda feels the Riri Williams plot turns the movie into a backdoor pilot for the Ironheart show, which weighs down an already crowded film.
“the movie also simultaneously kind of becomes like a backdoor pilot for the Ironheart TV show.”
The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:35:38 · Amanda Dobbins (0.85 sure it was them)
Sonic the Hedgehog (upcoming film): 1 line
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industry (industry) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they produced:
Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Sonic the Hedgehog (upcoming film) (the host's read).
The new Sonic design looks like it copied Rocket's design.
“I also think they copied Rocket's design for the new Sonic.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:32:18 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Teen Titans Go! To the Movies (2018): 1 line
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craft (craft) · through Iron Man (2008), which they produced:
Iron Man ⇒ Teen Titans Go! To the Movies (the host's read).
That film parodies the page-flipping Marvel logo, which opens Iron Man.
“They, uh, they do a really good parody of that in, um, Teen Titans go the movies.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:08:41 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Thor: Ragnarok (2017): 1 line
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theme (theme) · through The Avengers (2012), which they produced:
The Avengers ⇒ Thor: Ragnarok (the host's read).
Ben's favorite Marvel movie; Hulk's journey into space follows from here.
“Ragnarok is 100% Ben's favorite Marvel movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:18:58 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
modern superhero movies: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man (2008), which they produced:
Iron Man ⇒ modern superhero movies (the host's read).
Called the prototype format every later superhero film riffs on.
“this is the prototype for the modern superhero movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:09:11 · unknown (Griffin or David) (0.30 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Producing (15) everyone in producing
- Marvel producer/head (invoked), Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (The Big Picture, ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here!)
- producer, creative force of the MCU, Iron Man (The Big Picture, The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35))
- assistant producer, X-Men (The Big Picture, The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35))
- producer, Marvel Studios head, Avengers: Infinity War (Blank Check — Patreon, Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman)
- Marvel head, sets universe-growing goals, demands coverage, Guardians of the Galaxy (Blank Check — Patreon, Guardians of the Galaxy)
- producer, Captain America: The Winter Soldier (Blank Check — Patreon, Captain America: The Winter Soldier)
- producer / de facto director in the speakers' view, Thor: The Dark World (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor: The Dark World)
- producer, Iron Man 3 (Blank Check — Patreon, Iron Man 3)
- producer/architect, The Avengers (Blank Check — Patreon, The Avengers)
- Marvel Studios producer, cited as source of the reused-actor fact, Captain America: The First Avenger (Blank Check — Patreon, Captain America: The First Avenger)
- Marvel head, regrets dyed eyebrows, Thor (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor)
- Marvel producer, Iron Man 2 (Blank Check — Patreon, Iron Man 2)
- Marvel producer, The Avengers (Blank Check — Patreon, Iron Man 2)
- Marvel producer, speculated to share the 'faster Hulk-out' idea, The Incredible Hulk (Blank Check — Patreon, The Incredible Hulk)
- Marvel executive/producer, Iron Man (Blank Check — Patreon, Iron Man)
Studio (1) everyone in studio
- head of Marvel Studios, Marvel Cinematic Universe (Blank Check — Patreon, Marvel Nerdfest)
What was said about them, by kind
career (1)
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career (career):
Kevin Feige → X-Men.
Feige began as an assistant producer on the X-Men films before running the MCU.
“started as like an assistant producer on those X-Men films and was put in charge of these properties”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:09:13 · Jason Concepcion (0.50 sure it was them)
industry (8)
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industry (industry):
Sam Raimi → Kevin Feige.
Raimi is a rare hire with a defined style, with hope Marvel will not smother it.
“Raymi's such a rare example of them hiring a guy who has such a fucking defined thing”
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industry (industry):
Guardians of the Galaxy → Kevin Feige.
Feige set goals to expand the universe into cosmic and magical corners that were thought too silly, big or expensive.
“Like all these areas that people thought you couldn't put in the movies because they were too silly or too big or too expensive.”
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industry (industry):
James Gunn → Kevin Feige.
Later Marvel films suffer from Feige demanding coverage; Gunn won arguments to keep gags in one shot, like Groot in the background.
“James Gunn clearly like won his arguments about like, this scene is funnier if it's all one shot and roots in the background and we never cut away.”
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industry (industry):
Kevin Feige → Captain America: The Winter Soldier.
Feige gave the filmmakers free rein provided they used the Helicarrier set piece.
“Like, I'm going to give you a lot of free reign.”
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industry (industry):
Kevin Feige → Shane Black.
Feige's stated aim in hiring Black was to restore Tony Stark-in-the-cave stakes after Iron Man 2 made him invincible.
“We wanted to get back to that feeling of Tony Stark in the cave with the scratch.”
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industry (industry):
The Avengers → Kevin Feige.
The film looks homogenized because Feige quality-controls the look across all Marvel films.
“He's trying to like quality control across all franchise locations. It's a kind of homogeneous look.”
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industry (industry):
Joss Whedon → Kevin Feige.
From Thor through Age of Ultron Whedon acts as the MCU's other creative force and number-one script doctor, butting heads with Feige.
“Whedon, and we're going to talk about this a bunch, is a major creative force on the level of Kevin Feige from Thor through to Age of Ultron.”
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industry (industry):
Iron Man 2 → Kevin Feige.
Feige broke away from Ike Perlmutter at Marvel to answer only to Disney, after fights over budgets and toy-driven decisions like Iron Man 3's villain.
“Kevin Feige now only answers to Disney.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:52:53 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
people (1)
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people (people):
Kevin Feige → Nicole Perlman.
Perlman, from Marvel's writers program, pushed them to make Guardians and take on space early.
“She gets a lot of credit from Feige and other people for, um, convincing them like, yeah, if you're going to do space, do guardians and do them early.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:19:28 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
programming (2)
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programming (programming):
Kevin Feige → WandaVision (TV).
Feige's Disney Plus shows are a chance to fill in the gaps of the crossover movies.
“announcing with like all these Disney Plus shows, this sort of opportunity to fill in the gaps.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 1:18:06 · Griffin Newman (0.55 sure it was them) -
programming (programming):
Kevin Feige → Inhumans (announced film).
Feige's Phase 3 keynote, staged like an Apple unveiling, announced Captain Marvel, Boseman, and a joke 'Inhumans movie with Vin Diesel'.
“Feige doing that weird keynote address where he was doing like his Steve Jobs impression and announcing the phase 3 films.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:08:39 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
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fun, about
Kevin Feige:
Joke: did he jot down Hacker Witch five years ago.
“Did he jot down Hacker Witch 5 years ago?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Marvel Nerdfest · 0:40:39 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them)