Sylvester Stallone

Made films the shows talk about.

Wikidata Q40026: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only person by that name on Wikidata.

Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: Beverly Hills Cop (1984); Seven (1995); Beverly Hills Cop (original attachment); Rocky (series); Rocky / Rambo; The Expendables. Count them as director (2 films), writer (2 films), actor (19 films) instead.

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

1970s cop movies: 1 line

  1. lineage (tone lineage) · through Beverly Hills Cop (1984), which they were tied to as attached lead / rewrote the script (not in final film): 1970s cop movies ⇒ Beverly Hills Cop (the host's read). The first film feels like an extension of 70s cop movies, especially the Detroit material, while the sequel feels glossy and 80s.
    “There's a world in which that almost feels like an extension of like 70s cop movies.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop II’ With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 0:07:52 · Chris Ryan (0.70 sure it was them)

Alfred Hitchcock: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: Alfred Hitchcock ⇒ Seven (the host's read). Se7en is a Hitchcock movie in its pulling-your-chain structure of mystery, reveal and anxiety, and Hitchcock is Fincher's biggest influence.
    “I think as much as this seems like a modern movie, it's also just completely a Hitchcock movie in so many ways.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:14:30 · Sean Fennessey (0.85 sure it was them)

All That Jazz (1979): 1 line

  1. lineage (cited influence) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: All That Jazz ⇒ Seven (the maker said so). A host recalls a Fincher film the show covered where he cited All That Jazz as an inspiration for the look, maybe Seven.
    “where he cited how much of an inspiration all that jazz was for him for the look of the movie?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · David Fincher Music Videos · 1:13:07 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

In the Heat of the Night (1967): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Beverly Hills Cop (1984), which they were tied to as attached lead / rewrote the script (not in final film): In the Heat of the Night ⇒ Beverly Hills Cop (the host's read). Described as In the Heat of the Night meets Beverly Hills; both are fish-out-of-water movies.
    “said that the Beverly Hills Cop is essentially in the heat of the night meets Beverly Hills.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:27:42 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Klute: 1 line

  1. lineage (visual inspiration) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: Klute ⇒ Seven (the maker said so). The speaker watched Klute because Fincher and DP Darius Khondji cited it as an inspiration for Se7en's dark look and flashlight-led framing.
    “I watched Clute over the weekend because I know that both Fincher and Darius Conji, the DP, had cited that as an inspiration”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 2:38:58 · Nick Wiger or Mike Mitchell (unresolved) (0.30 sure it was them)

Michael Eisner: 1 line

  1. industry (industry) · through Beverly Hills Cop (1984), which they were tied to as attached lead / rewrote the script (not in final film): Michael Eisner ⇒ Beverly Hills Cop (the maker said so: a podcast the speaker did with Eisner). Eisner claims he came up with the idea after a speeding ticket in 1975; Simpson claimed it from 1977.
    “in 1975, he got a speeding ticket with a cop, thought the guy was a little bit of a dick”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:06:23 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)

The French Connection (1971): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Beverly Hills Cop (1984), which they were tied to as attached lead / rewrote the script (not in final film): The French Connection ⇒ Beverly Hills Cop (the host's read). Recast Popeye Doyle as Axel Foley and the movie barely changes; the apartments are essentially the same.
    “Like you take the French connection and you recast Dean Hackman's, you make Popeye Doyle, Axel Foley.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:23:34 · Wesley Morris (0.70 sure it was them)

William Friedkin: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: William Friedkin ⇒ Seven (the maker said so). Fincher drew from Friedkin and wanted it to feel like an episode of Cops.
    “he's drawn from like Friedkin, but he's also, he's, he's referenced like how he wanted it to feel like an episode of cops.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:15:42 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

Fight Club (1999): 2 lines

  1. career (career) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: Seven ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read). Without Se7en's power Fincher does not get to do The Game and Fight Club his way.
    “I think without this movie, he doesn't go on this run”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:27:28 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)
  2. career (career lever) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: Seven ⇒ Fight Club (the host's read). Se7en's success is what let Fincher make the seemingly impossible Fight Club.
    “But the fight club is him more being like, okay, guys, I know this seems impossible, but I made seven.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 1:05:55 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Game (1997): 2 lines

  1. unmapped (R-rated proof) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: Seven ⇒ The Game (the host's read). Se7en's hit status as an R-rated film convinced the backers to fund The Game.
    “I think convinced, um, people like, okay, like, you can make an R-rated movie a hit.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:33:16 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. unmapped (commercial lead-in) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: Seven ⇒ The Game (the host's read). Se7en's success gave Fincher an absurd budget for The Game.
    “this is better for me because now I can make this movie at an absurd budget.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:47:35 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

8mm (1999): 1 line

  1. lineage (rip-off) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: Seven ⇒ 8mm (the host's read). Calls 8mm Schumacher ripping off Se7en.
    “8 millimeter is Schumacher ripping off seven.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Game with Brendan Hines (Ad-Free) · 0:41:48 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

George P. Cosmatos: 1 line

  1. industry (industry) · them, directly: Sylvester Stallone ⇒ George P. Cosmatos (the maker said so: Russell, in his True West magazine interview). Russell says he got the ghost director through Stallone, who had done the same on Rambo II.
    “I called up Sly.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:08:20 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)

MTV Movie Awards Se7en parody: 1 line

  1. unmapped (parody) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: Seven ⇒ MTV Movie Awards Se7en parody (the host's read). The MTV Movie Awards parodied the Se7en ending with William Shatner playing every role and the head in the box.
    “And then Shatner's head is in the box and then he sings a song.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 2:34:40 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Nine Inch Nails: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: Seven ⇒ Nine Inch Nails (the host's read). Se7en caught industrial rock at its peak and led to Fincher-Reznor scores.
    “Fincher and Rezner go on to make this incredible partnership”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:55:04 · Sean Fennessey (0.45 sure it was them)

Saw (film series): 1 line

  1. unmapped (borrowing) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: Seven ⇒ Saw (film series) (the host's read). Rewatching the Saw movies, the speaker was struck by how much they lifted from Se7en.
    “I forgot how much saw stole.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 0:59:00 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Shawn Ryan: 1 line

  1. programming (programming) · through Beverly Hills Cop (1984), which they were tied to as attached lead / rewrote the script (not in final film): Beverly Hills Cop ⇒ Shawn Ryan (the host's read). Shawn Ryan tried a Beverly Hills Cop TV show; CBS made a pilot that didn't work.
    “that CBS did a pilot for and apparently it didn't work.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:09:37 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)

The Batman (2022): 1 line

  1. unmapped (borrowing) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: Seven ⇒ The Batman (the host's read). The speaker had forgotten how indebted The Batman is to Fincher, mostly to Se7en.
    “I had forgotten just how indebted the Batman is to...”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 1:28:34 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

True Detective (2014): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: Seven ⇒ True Detective (the host's read). Se7en's influence shows in True Detective from the title sequence to the characters, though True Detective's first season flinches at the dark ending.
    “you can see the influence of of 7 on things like True Detective from the title sequence to the characters.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:15:19 · Chris Ryan (0.55 sure it was them)

Zodiac (2007): 1 line

  1. unmapped (why Fincher was offered it) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: Seven ⇒ Zodiac (the host's read). Seven made Fincher the first choice for any serial-killer project, Zodiac included.
    “Ever since he makes seven, if there's some serial killer movie, is getting sent it”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Zodiac with Leslye Headland (Ad-Free) · 0:51:53 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)

later crime thrillers and crime TV (unnamed): 1 line

  1. lineage (genre influence) · through Seven (1995), which they were tied to as reportedly turned down Mills: Seven ⇒ later crime thrillers and crime TV (unnamed) (the host's read). As an adult the speaker is less shocked by Se7en because everyone since took a page out of its book.
    “I'm not as shocked by 7 because everyone took a page out of its book, of course.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Se7en with Mike Mitchell & Nick Wiger (Ad-Free) · 2:15:39 · Mike Mitchell (0.50 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Directing (2) everyone in directing

Acting (33) everyone in acting

Other (7) everyone in other

Writing (2) everyone in writing

What was said about them, by kind

career (8)

  1. career (career): Sylvester Stallone → Quentin Tarantino. Stallone's self-made breakout is likened to Tarantino crossed with acting, and Tarantino was the runner-up for who won the movie.
    “It's Tarantino crossed with acting almost?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:14:52 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. career (career): Sylvester Stallone → On the Waterfront. Stallone may have wished to make more movies like On the Waterfront than the franchises that became golden handcuffs.
    “I would have liked to have made more movies that are like on the waterfront or whatever”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:22:27 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  3. career (career): Sylvester Stallone → Rocky III. Stallone's best A-list run came with Rocky 3 and First Blood in the same year, a roughly six-year run.
    “He has one of the best, probably 6 year A-list movie star runs ever.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:22:54 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)
  4. career (career): Sylvester Stallone → Nighthawks. After Rocky he tried to separate from the character: beard in Nighthawks, big weight loss in Victory.
    “You know, like he's in Nighthawks, he grew a beard.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:23:09 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. career (career): Sylvester Stallone → Cop Land. Stallone was in and out of the Rocky persona until Copland and its physical transformation.
    “and obviously he spends most of his career like in and out of that persona, really until Copland.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:23:22 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)
  6. career (career): Sylvester Stallone → Rocky III. Stallone's Apex Mountain: Rocky 3 and Rambo in 82.
    “I think his Apex Mountain was that Rocky 3, Rambo.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:28:20 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  7. career (career): Sylvester Stallone → Rocky. Stallone writing and starring in Rocky is the biggest 'who won the movie' of all time.
    “Obviously, Si Stallone.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:45:37 · Bill Simmons (0.45 sure it was them)
  8. career (career): Paradise Alley → Sylvester Stallone. Shoemaker says Paradise Alley explains why Stallone's later career was so Rocky and Rambo heavy.
    “explains why Stallone's career was like heavily rocky and Rambo going forward”
    The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting With My Family’ | Interview (Ep. 130) · 0:09:13 · David Shoemaker (0.80 sure it was them)

industry (2)

  1. industry (industry): Sylvester Stallone → Henry Winkler. Winkler had to ask ABC to give back Stallone's script, which Stallone had sold to ABC.
    “Winkler has to go back to ABC, ask for the script back.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:21:26 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. industry (industry): George P. Cosmatos → Sylvester Stallone. Russell says he got the ghost director through Stallone, who had done the same on Rambo II.
    “I called up Sly.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:08:20 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)

people (3)

  1. people (people): Sylvester Stallone → Antonio Tarver. Stallone removed Roy Jones Jr. from Rocky Balboa and put Antonio Tarver in.
    “Sloane removed him from the movie and put Antonio Tarver in the movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:58:04 · Van Lathan (0.60 sure it was them)
  2. people (people): Sylvester Stallone → Staying Alive. Stallone directed Staying Alive and put himself in the redone opening credits.
    “because he's directing the movie.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Saturday Night Fever’ With Bill Simmons and Jimmy Kimmel · 1:18:18 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
  3. people (people): Sylvester Stallone → Burgess Meredith. Stallone reportedly called Meredith one of the all-time great stick men, a story relayed via Rapaport.
    “One of the all time great stick men.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Batman (1966) · 1:12:58 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

unmapped (1)

  1. unmapped (betting on yourself): Chazz Palminteri → Sylvester Stallone. Palminteri's refusal to sell the one-man show without starring is compared to Stallone and Rocky.
    “I'm betting on myself move.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘A Bronx Tale’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan · 0:32:27 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)

verdict (1)

  1. verdict (verdict): Sylvester Stallone → Tango & Cash. A host loves Tango and Cash.
    “Tango and Cash is one of my favorite movies.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:24:25 · Bill Simmons (0.45 sure it was them)

what-if (5)

  1. what-if (what-if): Sylvester Stallone → Good Will Hunting. Asked whether Damon and Affleck's Good Will Hunting is the same make-your-own-movie story; the difference is they'd been in movies already.
    “Would Good Wolf Hunting be in the same mode of a movie where the guys just went, fuck it, we're going to make our own movie and explodes?”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:20:25 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. what-if (what-if): Sylvester Stallone → Seven. Stallone reportedly turned down Mills, post-Tango and Cash, hunting for a dramatic movie that turned out to be Copland; Sly would have derailed it.
    “Sly in this movie derails it.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Se7en’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:00:38 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. what-if (what-if): Eddie Murphy → Sylvester Stallone. With anyone but Eddie, including Stallone, it would be an actively bad movie because the plot is known in the first 30 minutes.
    “I think that you could safely say this would be an actively bad movie with anybody besides Eddie Murphy”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:17:22 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them)
  4. what-if (what-if): Sylvester Stallone → Saving Private Ryan. Stallone's rewrite aimed for an opening like Saving Private Ryan on the streets of Detroit, which was too expensive.
    “The script he wrote, the opening scene from Saving Private Ryan on the beaches of Normandy was what he was going for.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:02:37 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. what-if (what-if): Sylvester Stallone → Martin Scorsese. Stallone was signed and Scorsese was offered the director's job and was bewildered by the script.
    “Scorsese offered the director's tour.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:03:21 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Fun items about them

  1. fun, about Sylvester Stallone: Stallone saw Wepner fight Ali and wrote the script in three and a half days.
    “Stallone so inspired pumps out the movie in 3.5 days.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:20:14 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)
  2. fun, about Sylvester Stallone: He sold the script to ABC; Henry Winkler had to get it back, and Stallone insisted on writing and starring for far less money.
    “Stallone betting on himself is a chapter.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:21:45 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
  3. fun, about Sylvester Stallone: This is the 11th Stallone Rewatchable, moving him into the top five with Denzel.
    “By the way, we've done, this is our 11th Stallone rewatchable.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:23:34 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
  4. fun, about Sylvester Stallone: He smoked so much making Rocky that he quit smoking in real life.
    “In real life, he quit after Rocky because he was like, it was too gross.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:12:34 · Van Lathan (0.40 sure it was them)
  5. fun, about Sylvester Stallone: Urban legend: Stallone demanded a certain orange juice in his trailer, there was a fight, and he quit. His version ended with a Lamborghini racing a freight train.
    “He was old, 2 weeks for his filming.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Beverly Hills Cop’ With Bill Simmons, Wesley Morris, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 1:02:49 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  6. fun, about Sylvester Stallone: Russell says Stallone supplied the ghost director and had done the same on Rambo II.
    “I called up Sly.”
    The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:08:20 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)