Reads the Wikipedia tidbits and Fincher lore, loves Madonna and Fincher's glamorous Vogue-era work, and is a Dirty Dancing evangelist. Is the Brit in the room and a soft touch for pop. Sour on Justin Timberlake as a performer.
Stances
Vogue and Freedom 90 are the top two videos
Dirty Dancing is a masterpiece
Annoyed by Timberlake's visible effort
Humor: Dry insults and bossy-Brit bits.
In their words
“I think Dirty Dancing is a masterpiece.” (0:45:37)
“I just don't want to be German, okay?” (1:55:47)
“This, to me, is peak annoying Justin Timberlake.” (2:15:04)
Fincher fan from a 16-year-old Empire-reading start in England; loves Clint Eastwood late-career oddities and reads the dossier. Thinks Panic Room is deeper than a B-programmer.
Stances
Panic Room is a great director showcase movie
Fincher's craft is the point
Humor: Dry, dropping reads and recommendations mid-riff.
In their words
“I was a big 16-year-old film Empire magazine reading film nerd.” (0:27:35)
Loves the film's ending and admires the look; finds the last hour tiring and the philosophy trite on rewatch. Loves Limp Bizkit without irony, worked in video stores, and defends Fincher's craft.
Stances
The last hour sags but the ending is great
Gen X angst reads as stupid on rewatch
Fincher's later digital coldness is not all bad
Humor: Dry, exasperated reactions and unashamed pop taste.
In their words
“I love Limp Bizkit.” (3:03:38)
“the ending of this movie is so effective” (1:07:45)
Loves The Game (watches it yearly, loves the Criterion), is a Fincher interviewer, and gets the research in hand. A sucker for Douglas movie-star energy and the Christmas Carol reading.
Stances
The Game is better than Se7en
Fincher's 'Christmas Carol' reading is the key
Douglas is America's dark id of the 90s
Humor: Dry, precise, and ready with a quote from the dossier.
In their words
“I think this is better.” (0:07:49)
“I think it fucking rules.” (1:56:37)
“I think I said he was America's dark id for the 90s.” (0:25:42)
A critic who champions Fincher and wants the series done on the show; prefers the later half of Fincher's career. Grew up partly in England, where his dad described Se7en to him.
Stances
Pitched Fincher for the show
Se7en is great but not top-tier Fincher
Interested in the Spacey career arc
Humor: Dry, brittle one-liners and film-critic digressions.
In their words
“Sims, I have a question in the in the UK cut of seven.” (0:24:36)
Admires Goldenthal's 90s scores, Henriksen, and Fincher's control; fond of the Ridley Scott sequels. Uneasy with studios that sand a director down. Attribution is inferred.
Stances
Dutton's performance is in the conversation for the best non-Ripley Alien role
Ripley's shaved head is an incredible move
Humor: Dry asides and character-actor deep cuts.
In their words
“I love his Joel Schumacher Batman scores.” (2:00:04)
“Not only just visually striking, like it gives the whole Joan of Arc thing to the movie.” (1:30:33)
Loves tight genre moves, big visual invention, and box-office trivia; skeptical of Burton's recent output and studio notes culture. A sucker for Demolition Man and the Disney Renaissance era.
Stances
Selick is a more consistent stubborn experimentalist than late Burton
This is Elfman's masterpiece
Santa Claus is right to be mad too
Humor: Dry bluster and mock-outrage, with a taste for tangents.
In their words
“Oogie Boogie is the only person who seems to get pleasure out of torturing other people.” (2:05:58)
Loves Eyes Wide Shut and Barry Lyndon and is a proud texter. Likes Sidney Pollack as an actor and wants to age into him. Can't stand the idea of the film being dismissed as hermetic.
Stances
The film is open and inviting, not closed off
Pollack's performance is the film's engine
Humor: Dry riffs on pop culture and his son Asa's texting.
In their words
“Sims prides himself on being a top tier texter.” (1:32:51)
A critic who gave Doctor Sleep a positive-but-mixed review, then reversed within two weeks and now rates it highly, in the director's cut especially. Likes Ewan McGregor and, by his own account, enjoys Stephen King but is not a deep reader of him.
Stances
the theatrical cut was slow, the director's cut improves it
the conditions you see a film in shape your opinion
he reversed on the movie
Humor: Dry, cutting asides about celebrities and trailers, plus a weakness for a long filmography rundown.
In their words
“And my review is positive.” (0:03:21)
“I'm sort of like, I like praise the craft of it.” (0:03:28)
Film-historian type who places the film in the late-80s Vietnam cycle and the Oscar race, and reads Herr and Hasford material aloud. Likes the film's structure and its dark comic cuts.
Stances
Full Metal Jacket belongs to the late-80s Vietnam film cycle
Kubrick's humor lands in tension cutters
Humor: Dry, sets up pop-culture parallels and lets Jon escalate them.
In their words
“Well, I was just going to talk about like, it's, this is the time when Vietnam movies are suddenly everywhere.” (0:26:06)
“But it's the thing that like Woman King goes into a lot as well of like, how much you have to break your brain to survive an environment like this, right?” (0:56:40)
Rates movies by kills and gives The Shining a high grade; fond of Nicholson and Pacino performance analysis. Says he is less of a Kubrick guy than most, but this is top tier for him. Will go along with the weird bit and then defend it.
Stances
The Shining is a top-tier Kubrick film
Nicholson's performance is big but grounded
Skeletons at the end are slightly weak
Humor: Dry jabs and pop-culture trivia answers.
In their words
“I rate movies by many deaths?” (0:05:31)
“I feel like I'm less of a Cooper guy than most, but this is at the very top tier for me, even still.” (2:33:07)
Finds slow, adult, conversation-heavy pre-2000 sci-fi and mid-grade legal thrillers deeply relaxing. Holds a grudge against Don't Worry Darling and likes the movie's seriousness. A sucker for starry, grown-up casts.
Stances
2010 is a comfort-food movie
the plot is more confusing than 2001, which answers no questions
strong anti-Don't Worry Darling position
Humor: Deadpan nitpicks and fully committed rants on plot logic.
Plays the show's running Brit, leaning into a bit that he grew up in England and is the only one who can speak to the film's culture. Brings the research dossier and keeps trying to steer back to the movie. Jokes that he sympathizes with the authority figures like Mr. Deltoid. Is the target of the hip hop Sims joke.
Stances
Is wary of the long tangents and wants to keep to the movie
Sides comically with the authority figures against Alex
Reads the dossier aloud to anchor claims
Humor: Deadpan exasperation and mock-pedantry as the foil to Griffin and Alex.
Reads the film as a perfect alignment of hard sci-fi, psychedelia and Apollo timing. Respects but is cool on The Graduate, likes the box-office history, and enjoys the production design. Evidence for his lines is low confidence since the transcript has no speaker labels.
Stances
The film's design still holds up
Respects The Graduate more than loves it
Interested in how the film was marketed and received
Humor: Dry, quick riffs on the guest and cultural references.
In their words
“Like it's one of those movies I never revisited.” (0:34:25)
Reads the dossier and brings box-office lists, Oscar-year trivia and a spreadsheet of retroactive winners. Draws links to comedy lineage (the Zuckers) and to Fincher's collaborators.
Stances
Strangelove was a big influence on the Zucker-Abrahams-Zucker style
Kubrick was a real collaborator at his best
Frankenheimer's 1962 to 1966 run is underrated
Humor: Plays the pedant with a straight face, running the research like a game show.
In their words
“So George C. Scott is my winner in 1964 on my beloved spreadsheet.” (0:43:30)
“I did finally have the breakthrough watching this of how much of an influence this movie must have been on the Zucker Brothers and John Abrahams.” (0:53:55)
“And it really does remind me of Fincher.” (1:07:10)
A critic's frame of reference: star systems, box-office history and old reviews. Grew up in England and is tired of the British comedy canon. Likes the Sellers work in Strangelove more than in Lolita.
Stances
The film suffers from the Hays Code and cannot match the book
Sellers creeps him out here
Box-office trivia is part of the Lolita picture
Humor: Dry and self-aware, including deadpan wedding-speech bits.
In their words
“And I think that really has turned me against all the great British comic figures” (1:50:24)
“He creeps me out in this movie.” (1:51:04)
“I think Strange Love is a masterpiece and he's so funny in it.” (1:50:57)
Reads the dossier quotes aloud and defends Spartacus as a great movie despite Kubrick's own verdict; loves epics and Gladiator. (Speaker attribution inferred; moderate confidence.)
Stances
Spartacus is a great film, whatever Stan the Man thought
The Hollywood epics are a real era worth respecting
Humor: Dry readings of dossier quotes and quick pop-culture riffs.
Film-critic host who loves a legal drama and Practical Magic, knows the production dossier and the box-office lists. More drawn to war films than Griffin; fond of character actors and trivia about old Hollywood.
Stances
Practical Magic is a fantastic movie
Paths of Glory sits very close to Strangelove
Kubrick cared about commercial success more than critics
Humor: Dry, deadpan, quick with a pop-culture analogy.
In their words
“Practical Magic is a fantastic movie.” (0:15:30)
“I can give you some context, Griff, or do we want to talk about the plot?” (0:32:05)
Film nerd with deep catalog knowledge: Sinatra rights, Oscar oddities, the 1956 box office. Fond of noirs like I Wake Up Screaming and relishes obscure trivia; not a fan of Victor Mature or The Man Who Knew Too Much.
Stances
Hollywood in 1956 is bloated by epics
Kubrick wins on lens and style but fights Ballard
The movie is a psychologically lofty B movie
Humor: Sets up trivia as a bit and plays along with the jokes about his own name in Crime Wave.
In their words
“Oh, shout out to me.” (0:17:08)
“I just, I need to film nerd correct you.” (0:14:27)
“it is like a psychologically lofty, uh, uh, B movie.” (1:21:30)
Their shows' recurring bits
Running bits, not opinions; a critic read aloud is cited, not present.
The Big Picture
Drafts: Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument.
Hall of Fame: A star's or director's best, ranked and argued.
Countdowns: Ranked lists, top five or top ten.
Blank Check with Griffin & David
The box office game: Guessing the film's opening weekend and what it was up against.
The sung theme: "Blank Check with Griffin and David", sung; the transcriber garbles it.
Their claims
Showing 301–400 of 1,091 claims.
people (people):
Volunteers → Tom Hanks.
Volunteers pairs Hanks with John Candy; Hanks met Rita Wilson around then.
“He'd been in a movie with Hanks the year before.”
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contrast (contrast):
Sixteen Candles → Flesh and Blood.
Sixteen Candles is as gross as Flesh+Blood but thinks it's a whimsical teen comedy.
“that movie doesn't think it's a whimsical comedy for teenagers.”
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David Sims
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“talking about our man JC should have won best actor for them.”
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theme (plot parallel):
Lady in the Water → Manchester by the Sea.
A man loses his family in a past tragedy and becomes the super of a building, which the speaker notes as the same plot.
“In all caps, I wrote, this is the plot of Manchester by the Sea.”
career (career context):
Paul Giamatti → Sideways.
Lady in the Water was the first thing Giamatti booked after Sideways, his big lead after that breakthrough.
“I think this is the first thing he booked after sideways.”
unmapped (critic portrayal):
Lady in the Water → Birdman.
Birdman's film critic is called more sensitive and three-dimensional than Balaban's critic in Lady in the Water.
“Inaritu's portrayal of a film critic in Birdman is sensitive and three-dimensional compared to Bob Paliban in this, right?”
craft (shared creature designer):
Crash McCreery → Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest.
The monkey creatures in Lady in the Water were designed by the man who did the monster pirates (Davy Jones's crew) in Dead Man's Chest.
“These creatures were designed by Crash Macreri, who also did all the monster pirates in the 2nd Pirates of the Caribbean movie.”
theme (scene echo):
Lady in the Water → The Last of the Mohicans.
Relaying the myth through third-hand translation is compared to the Last of the Mohicans scene of language relay.
“It's like the scene in the Last of the Mohicans where Daniel Day-Louis has to have the British guys speak French to the Native Americans who only speak French.”
people (critic casting irony):
Bob Balaban → M. Night Shyamalan.
A filmmaker getting back at critics casts Balaban, the actor critics love as their on-screen surrogate.
“Bob Bellaman is like the ultimate film critics actor.”
unmapped (meta monologue):
Lady in the Water → Scream.
Balaban's speech about what a PG-13 movie will not show is compared to a Kevin Williamson-style monologue from Scream.
“Bob Bellman giving a Kevin Williamson style monologue.”
unmapped (intervention):
Jodie Foster → Robert Downey Jr..
On Home for the Holidays Foster confronted Downey about his behavior even though he still delivered.
“Jody Foster would come in and be like, I know that no one calls you out on this because you're still able to deliver, but I will not let you behave this way.”
career (career-detour):
Robert Downey Jr. → Ally McBeal.
Downey went from lost movie star to TV in Ally McBeal season four, won a Golden Globe, and was fired.
“Very nice job. And he's fired by the end of that season.”
career (career-turning-point):
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang → Robert Downey Jr..
As a critical hit with Downey leading, it worked as a calling card to prove he could carry a movie.
“It is a critical hit and it is, yeah, it's basically a calling card.”
career (career-pattern):
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang → Zodiac.
Roles like Good Night and Good Luck, A Scanner Darkly and Zodiac cast Downey as weathered men clinging on.
“these roles of slightly weathered guys who, like, are kind of clinging on a little bit, you know, like rather than sort of breezing through things.”
industry (box-office-context):
Dracula Untold → The Judge.
The Judge opened behind Annabelle's second weekend, mentioned beside the flop Dracula Untold.
“You know, behind the 2nd weekend of Annabelle, this movie opened.”
people (director):
Fred Claus → David Dobkin.
Dobkin's Fred Claus is a catastrophe with Vince Vaughn as Santa's brother and Ludacris's head on a filmed little person.
“Yeah, they filmed a little person and then superimposed Ludacris's head so his neck never moves properly.”
career (filmography-contrast):
David Dobkin → Wedding Crashers.
His pre-Judge filmography is ugly, misjudged comedies with regressive politics, which makes a serious drama odd.
“his filmography is mostly ugly, misjudged comedies that have regressive social politics.”
people (prior-collaboration):
The Gingerbread Man → The Judge.
Downey and Duvall had worked together before in The Gingerbread Man and Lucky You, which fed the casting.
“It was the gingerbread man. And lucky you. the Curtis Hanson poker movie.”
theme (comparison):
The Judge → Big Daddy.
The Judge's climactic testimony scene recalls Sandler's courtroom speech in Big Daddy, which works only because that film is a ribald comedy.
“the scene in Big Daddy, where Adam Sandler tells his dad how much he loved him on the stand during...”
contrast (awards-contrast):
The Judge → No Country for Old Men.
Recent Best Picture winners like The Artist, The Hurt Locker, and No Country are not like The Judge, which is the old kind of Oscar bait.
“the best picture winners of the last whatever years are like the artist and the hurt locker and like no country for all men”
industry (awards-rival):
Robert Duvall → Birdman.
Duvall's Supporting Actor nomination sat beside stronger work from Norton in Birdman, Hawke in Boyhood, Ruffalo in Foxcatcher and Simmons in Whiplash.
“he's nominated with Edward Norton for Birdman. one of his finest performances in a movie.”
career (career-comparison):
Robert Duvall → Jack Reacher.
If he deserves a nomination for The Judge he deserves one for every film of the last 20 years, since he is no better than in Jack Reacher.
“he is no better or worse in the judge than he is in Jack Reacher.”
industry (awards-theory):
Robert Downey Jr. → Rain Man.
Best case for Downey was playing Tom Cruise to Duvall's Dustin Hoffman, supporting the Oscar-bait part.
“Best case scenario, he's the Tom Cruise to the Dustin Hoffman and Rainman.”
people (snubbed-performance):
Iron Man → Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
Downey deserved nominations for the magnetic performances in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and Iron Man.
“Robert Downey Jr. should have been nominated for Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang. He should have been nominated for Iron Man.”
industry (awards-theory):
Robert Downey Jr. → Meryl Streep.
Streep keeps getting nominated because she visibly changes things up; Downey should surprise audiences similarly.
“I'm not saying she's always good, but she is always at least changing it up.”
verdict (verdict):
Top Gun: Maverick → Jurassic World Dominion.
Trevorrow's Dominion interviews: give audiences what they expect but do it well, the Top Gun way.
“why don't you give them what they expect and want, but do it really, really well?”
career (career):
Michael Keaton → Spotlight.
Keaton's arc runs from Need for Speed and RoboCop through the Oscar near-win to Spotlight, which cements him as an elder statesman.
“Almost wins an Oscar and then spotlight just solidifies it of like Elder Statesman”
lineage (lineage):
RoboCop → Terminator Salvation.
Non-Nolan grim-and-grounded reboots like this one end up self-serious but made by a dumb person and noted to death.
“you get Terminator salvation, you get these movies that are just like self-serious but made by a dumb person”
contrast (contrast):
RoboCop → RoboCop.
The remake's Easter eggs, like the hand and the I'd buy that for a dollar line, feel dismissive of the original.
“Like all the jokes they make feel dismissive of the original film.”
career (career):
Joel Kinnaman → RoboCop.
Kinnaman's mixed accent, English with his dad and Swedish with his mom, gives Murphy an odd rhythm that stands in for the monotone.
“that gives him a version of the kind of weird Robocop monotonous voice, you know?”
industry (industry):
John Carpenter → RoboCop.
Carpenter got better at accepting executive-producer money on remakes of his ideas, while Verhoeven gets no checks.
“I will happily be a nominal, stupid executive producer or whatever if you pay me.”
contrast (contrast):
RoboCop → RoboCop.
The original's villains were iconic and specific; this one has a gangster, corruption, and a businessman, but no physical antagonist.
industry (industry):
RoboCop → The Avengers.
The film is pre-Marvel franchise filmmaking that landed two years after The Avengers and feels out of touch with trends.
“this movie comes out 2 years after the Avengers.”
verdict (verdict):
RoboCop → Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Ranked against another 2014 one-star Patreon pick, the host likes this less than either it or Ouija.
what-if (what-if):
Ian McKellen → The Lord of the Rings.
The hosts imagine a new Lord of the Rings film about hunting for Gollum, with McKellen and Wood back and Kate Winslet leading.
lineage (lineage):
RoboCop → Total Recall.
The Wiseman remake of Total Recall is cited as an equally boring office-building finale, a remake sibling to this film.
career (career):
The Monuments Men → George Clooney.
One of Clooney's biggest financial hits, even though the hacked Sony emails showed he thought it was bad.
“Because we know in 2014, the Sony hacks revealed that even George Clooney thought this movie was bad”
career (career):
Shana Feste → Country Strong.
Endless Love's director also made The Greatest, Country Strong and Boundaries, mostly 2010s chick flicks.
“Endless love directed by Shana Feste, who made the greatest.”
career (career):
Tom Cruise → Eyes Wide Shut.
Vanilla Sky and Eyes Wide Shut dissect his persona outside the blockbuster, whereas Edge does it inside a blockbuster.
“like vanilla sky and eyes wide shut, like the ones that are kind of dissecting his persona”
people (people):
Tom Cruise → Doug Liman.
Cruise and Liman, McQuarrie and Kosinski became Cruise's guys: directors he can collaborate with rather than be pushed back by.
“Cruz did Kacinski, Lyman and Macquarie became just his guys.”
craft (craft):
Edge of Tomorrow → Ghostbusters.
The Noah Taylor briefing carries the same 'I'm not sure, it might end the world' flavor as Ghostbusters' cross the streams.
“The Ghostbusters thing of like what happens if we cross the streams.”
contrast (contrast):
Edge of Tomorrow → Groundhog Day.
Groundhog Day's loop is unexplained and mystical (a witch after a bad date); Edge gives a rule-based answer, the aliens' reset ability as competitive advantage.
“the wise decision that Groundhog Day was supposed to be like a witch curses him after a bad date.”
contrast (contrast):
Edge of Tomorrow → Big.
Time-loop and magic movies like Big refuse to explain the magic (a fortune-teller machine); Edge justifies its premise.
“Usually it's better to not explain these things.”
verdict (verdict):
Edge of Tomorrow → Mr. & Mrs. Smith.
Smith is a movie where you feel the Liman chaos; one host does not like it, the other finds it messy and enjoyable.
career (career):
Doug Liman → The Bourne Identity.
Bourne launched a lucrative franchise even though Liman did not make the sequels, which kept studios circling back to him.
“Bourne identity launched like an incredibly lucrative franchise.”
craft (craft):
Edge of Tomorrow → Mission: Impossible III.
Casting Brendan Gleeson parallels Philip Seymour Hoffman in MI3: the best foil for Cruise comes from a different acting discipline.
“like casting Philip Seymour Hoffman in Mission Impossible 3”
theme (theme):
Bill Paxton → Tom Cruise.
Paxton, who worked every position in the Corman system, shares Cruise's 'isn't this great, we're making movies' reputation.
“he had the Tom Cruise thing of like, isn't this great?”
programming (programming):
Edge of Tomorrow → X-Men: Days of Future Past.
On the opening weekend chart, Edge opened third behind Fault in Our Stars and Maleficent; X-Men DoFP was still fourth.
fun, about
Force Awakens press screening:
David missed the Force Awakens critics' screening while at the Atlantic Wire, after a year of weekly Star Wars podcasting.
“I didn't get in to that screening, I was still working at the Atlantic Wire.”
fun, about
Rebecca Ferguson in Doctor Sleep:
Plays the most evil force in the world like a middle-aged woman at the Litchfield Jazz Fest, Tanglewooding out of control.
“Her decision to play the most evil force in the world, like a middle-aged woman at the Litchfield Jazz Fest.”
fun, about
Richard Schiff and Joe Pantoliano:
'The 2 benchmarks I'm setting for the next 30 years of my career': Schiff in Clemency and Pantoliano in Bad Boys for Life; Pantoliano has a 'guess the horse' scene.
“Those are the 2 benchmarks I'm setting for the next 30 years of my career.”
fun, about
Avengers: Infinity War:
Look at the chip shop in the Edinburgh scene: a sign says they will deep fry your kebab, which leads to Scottish deep-frying and a prank-call album bit.
“there's just a sign in the chip shop that just says, we will deep fry your kebab”
fun, about
Avengers: Infinity War:
Kevin Smith screamed 'no' at the press screening the second Tony was stabbed, and posted a tearful selfie; later he cried again at Cap shaving his beard in Endgame.
“And that person was Kevin Smith, who was in our audience”
fun, about
Thor: The Dark World:
The climactic portal fight, set up as a gimmick for forty-five minutes: characters zap between Greenwich, Vanaheim and Frostland; a Frost Beast turns up; Thor throws a car at Malekith.
fun, about
Max Landis:
The sun-sets-multiple-times 'one day' fight: host argues Christmas is a season.
“This was the movie I got in the fight with Max Landis.”
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David Sims
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fun, about
The Avengers:
Paramount still has its logo on a film Disney bought; they joke Paramount staked its territory and Disney got the last laugh by earning more.
“Paramount made so much money for selling these movies, but Disney got the last laugh because they made even more money buying these movies.”
fun, about
The Avengers:
Whedon's addition that was not in the Penn draft: the heroes must fight each other first; see the Thor/Iron Man/Cap forest fight at 0:47-0:50 and Cap's shield versus Mjolnir.
fun, about
Jeremy Renner:
Renner's defense of Hawkeye: he's there to tranquilize the Hulk; they find that depressing. Also Renner complained about being brainwashed for ~1:50.
“he's got the arrow so they can tranquilize Hulk.”
fun, about
Harry Dean Stanton:
See the scene (1:32) where Harry Dean Stanton talks Banner round: shot as a nine-page conversation, trimmed hard; the full version is on the DVD.
“So there's like a very long version of this on the DVD”
fun, about
Robert Downey Jr.:
Downey asked to pick the magnetic bracelets in the final suit-up and ad-libbed the Gallagher-at-the-computer riff that became a real shot.
fun, about
Grand Central / New York:
They scanned every building from 34th to 45th Street for the battle and 'make sure it doesn't get bigger than this' keeps the geography clear; the worm goes through Grand Central at 1:58.
“they scanned every fucking building in this area and just rebuilt like a perfect, like, grid of like 34th to like 45th.”
fun, about
Ashley Johnson:
Cap's original introduction was a cafe scene with a waitress (Johnson) flirting; the cut payoff is her looking up at the Avengers.
“So it's supposed to be payoff for that, but it still works”
fun, about
Marvel studio:
The Chitauri were minor aliens invented for this movie; Thanos reveal in the credits left a Paris friend asking who the purple guy was.
fun, about
The Avengers:
Opening weekend box office: $207 million (May 4), then Think Like a Man, The Hunger Games, The Pirates! Band of Misfits, The Lucky One in the top five.
“Avengers breaks the box office record makes 207.”
fun, about
Bucky death:
The classic comic Bucky death is on a rocket Cap can't disarm; the film instead has Bucky fall from the train. David calls the movie's version lamer.
“The classic Bucky death is so good, which they're on the rocket.”
fun, about
Dum Dum Dugan:
See the scene where Neal McDonough walks on in a bowler hat and mutton chops; the hosts cheered because the film embraced the silly comic look rather than toning it down.
fun, about
Bucky (comics maxim):
Old comics maxim: Uncle Ben, Gwen Stacy, Jesus and Bucky are the characters who would never be brought back; Bucky stayed dead about 64 years.
“Spider-Man's Uncle Ben. Spider-Man's girlfriend, Gwen Stacy. And Jesus. And Bucky.”
fun, about
Peggy Carter red dress:
At the Times Square opening night, when Peggy walks in wearing the red dress amid drab fatigues, the whole audience yelled holy shit in unison.
“she comes in with this burst of color and the whole audience went, holy shit.”
fun, about
Captain America (title):
Marvel feared the name Captain America would hurt overseas in 2011 and retitled the film The First Avenger; almost every territory passed on that and only about one country released it under the alternate title.
“Captain America won't be in the title, and almost every territory passed on that.”
fun, about
Thor:
The hosts open on how every cut in the lab scene swings the camera 45 degrees the opposite way, a literal seesaw; Branagh's one idea is the tilted world, and they keep returning to the Dutch angles throughout.
“Isn't this crazy, though, that every time they cut, the camera is 45 degrees in the opposite angle of the previous...”
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Thor ·
0:03:17 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Chris Hemsworth:
Casting lore: Hemsworth beat Hiddleston, who thought he was ripped but looked narrower beside him, because he absorbed muscle better and looked broader on camera.
“Hemsworth is just broader shoulder.”
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Thor ·
0:11:50 ·
David Sims
(0.40 sure it was them)
fun, about
Thor:
Hemsworth's dyed eyebrows in Thor are Kevin Feige's biggest regret in the whole MCU; watch Thor in Asgard where he almost looks to have none.
“Do you know that Kevin Feige said his, what his number one biggest regret in the entire Marvel cinematic universe is?”
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Thor ·
0:14:42 ·
David Sims
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fun, about
Thor:
Loki's hand turns blue on touching the Frost Giant king's forearm in the Jotunheim fight; the hosts note the film forgets it and later reveals he is a Frost Giant.
“one of the blue guys, the king, touched Loki's forearm, and then Loki's hand turned blue, and they don't know why.”
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Thor ·
0:24:56 ·
David Sims
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fun, about
Thor:
Thor's development hell: Raimi, a UPN TV show, Sony and Goyer, Paramount, Vaughn, del Toro, DJ Caruso, Daniel Craig offered it before Hemsworth took it.
“Then, as we all know, DJ Caruso is hired.”
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Thor ·
0:26:36 ·
David Sims
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fun, about
Thor:
Mjolnir is cast as Excalibur: the lifting-the-sword-from-the-stone scene is the hammer in the New Mexico crater that nobody is worthy to move.
“So, you know, the hammer becomes like Excalibur.”
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Thor ·
0:37:54 ·
David Sims
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fun, about
Thor: The Dark World:
After the nudity-search tangent, they recall Skarsgard is naked in Dark World but the film blurs it out.
“I forgot he's naked in Dark World, but they blur it out.”
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Thor ·
1:06:47 ·
David Sims
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fun, about
Thor:
See the scene where Thor finally gets Mjolnir back: the hosts shout over the Patrick Doyle score and say the transformation is the film's biggest success.
“I will say, I think that is the biggest success of this movie is they do sell you on the importance of the hammer.”
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Thor ·
1:29:29 ·
David Sims
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fun, about
Thor:
See the scene where Thor flies by holding on to the thrown hammer; the speaker loves that the hammer does the flying and Thor grabs on.
“I like how Thor flies with his... The hammer is what's flying.”
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Thor ·
1:34:42 ·
David Sims
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fun, about
Thor:
Loki's illusion trick works in the Frost Giants fight; the hosts see the fake Loki, praise it, and grumble it plays worse in green screen CGI goopland.
“I think that type of effect doesn't play as well when they're in just like green screen CGI Goopland.”
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Thor ·
1:39:38 ·
David Sims
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fun, about
Thor:
Thor smashes the Bifrost to cut off the Frost Giants; the hosts say the comics have a literal rainbow while the film makes a prismatic Tron light-cycle runway.
“they just try to make it like a weird, like, sort of glassy Tron light cycle runway that's a little prismatic”
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Thor ·
1:41:33 ·
David Sims
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fun, about
Thor:
Watch the end-credits stinger: Selvig with Fury and the Tesseract, a scene Whedon wrote and directed; Branagh reportedly claimed not to have seen it.
“Right, because Bran was like, I haven't seen this scene.”
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Thor ·
1:55:57 ·
David Sims
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fun, about
Ang Lee:
Grosses compared: this grossed 128 domestic vs Hulk 132 and Life of Pi 124; worldwide Life of Pi 609, this 213, Hulk 245.
fun, about
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon:
The four leads speak different accents on camera; Yeoh learned her Mandarin lines phonetically and took a year of no other work.
“Right. One of them is one of them is essentially speaking lines phonetically.”
fun, about
Michelle Yeoh:
Debilitating knee surgery at the start of filming; she flew back and forth for surgery, action pushed to the end.
“Right. And she had to keep on flying back to the States for surgery and then she'd fly back to set, do dialogue scenes while she was recovering, fly back to the States for further surgery.”
fun, about
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon:
Bar fight trivia: the stuntman who falls off the banister is the same man later holding an abacus because he broke his arm.
“how the guy who does that immortal fall off the banister is the same guy who has the abacus”
fun, about
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon:
Nominations: Gladiator got 12, CTHD 10; CTHD won score, art direction, cinematography, foreign language film.
“Best art direction, best cinematography, and foreign language film.”
fun, about
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon:
Sony Pictures Classics co-president Michael Barker realized they'd crossed $100M when two kids at a mall raved about the cool subtitles.
“they were like, man, the fucking subtitles were so cool.”
fun, about
How the Grinch Stole Christmas:
The number one movie the weekend CTHD opened; top five: Grinch, Vertical Limit, Proof of Life, Unbreakable, Dungeons & Dragons.
“It's the number one movie of 2000, and it is called Dr. Seuss is How the Grinch Stole Christmas.”
fun, about
Kevin Kline:
Kline's story: he saw Joan Allen intensely preparing on location and went to the craft service table.
“Kevin Klein tells this story on like one of the retrospective criterion documentaries where he walked by Joan Allen and she was sitting somewhere around location”
fun, about
Blue Steel:
Opened number five with 2.8 million dollars and made 8.2 on a roughly 16 million budget; debuted at Sundance and came out through MGM after Vestron went bankrupt.
“It opens number five at the box office with 2.8 million dollars.”