Appreciates craftspeople and lesser-known directors (loves The Boost and City Hall) and attends Cannes. Scrutinizes plot logic and loves Buscemi's Fargo energy. Disdains the garage finale.
Stances
The movie works until the murder, then the investigation sinks it
Modern tech would have ended the plot
Harold Becker's career deserves a look
Humor: Wry, uses film-nerd references and dry understatement.
In their words
“I just saw it for the 1st time this year is amazing.” (0:30:27)
“I just feel like reverse image search alone on a photo of Rick just ends this whole thing.” (1:08:35)
Treats After Hours as a top-5 Scorsese and an all-time favorite; loves style, Pee-wee-adjacent oddballs, Frances Ha and film-history research. Can't stand lazy comic-book flatness or explicit violence for its own sake. A sucker for homage, trivia and a clean pace.
Stances
After Hours is a hinge in Scorsese's career
Goodfellas' look starts here
Pauline Kael misread it
Nighttime New York movies are a lineage
Humor: Dry, researched asides and a New Yorker's grumble about the city changing.
In their words
“It's just a hinge movie for him, you know?” (1:41:36)
Barely audible in the transcript; credited by Bill's live-show promo and addressed as 'Fantasy', he offers short remarks on Spider Rico. Little can be said about his taste from this episode.
Admires Walken's monologue craft and Tarantino's refusal to sell out. Likes movie stars taking risks in non-star roles (Stallone in Cop Land). Dislikes how the film ends up with Fabienne.
Stances
Walken wins the Dion Waiters Award
Travolta, not Day-Lewis, was right
Tarantino never sold out
Humor: Quiet, wry one-liners; takes the long view.
In their words
“Don't massage my wife's foot unless you're a professional masseuse is one of my takes.” (0:10:40)
“I love when movie stars play non-movie star roles.” (2:41:43)
“Having him play like just one normal hitman having a weird day would be awesome.” (1:39:01)
Likes the sketch-driven silliness and Mini-Me/Scott Evil feud. Annoyed by Fat Bastard's grossness and Felicity sleeping with him. Likes Rob Lowe's resilient career.
Stances
Fat Bastard scene is the worst-aged
Dr. Evil nipples age best
Heather Graham deserves credit
Humor: Dry, plays straight man to Bill's tangents.
In their words
“Felicity sleeping with Fat Bastard has just grossed me out in 1999.” (0:37:25)
Sean is the most film-critical of the three, with a theory of Pacino as broken by Scarface and an argument that The Insider is his most calibrated performance. He admires Plummer's non-impression of Wallace and values the Mann-Roth research. He is less into the score and the style when applied to a white-collar story.
Stances
The Insider is probably Pacino's best performance
Mann's style strains for individuality and sometimes ages him
The movie is a little masturbatory when applied to a hotel-room decision story
The score is not his favorite Mann element
Humor: Wry and observational, with film-critic asides and self-deprecating comments about being excommunicated from the Mann club.
In their words
“I think this is truly his last great masterpiece.” (0:07:22)
“I think that the insider is probably his best performance because it's the one that is the most finely calibrated between loud, crazy, and kind of subtle and stormy” (0:12:36)
A DVD head and Letterboxd regular who would cave on the deleted scenes. Likes the fact sheets, craft details like Ozu, and friendship movies. Dislikes the sequel idea and the Costner scene being sat on forever.
Stances
Would show the cut Costner scene
Doubts Grand Canyon
Humor: Dry quips and the straight man to the Letterboxd jokes.
Cares about directorial craft and homage; Scorsese devotee. Praises performances and lessons over the direction, which he finds first-time-filmmaker plain. Bothered by mixed Goodfellas homages.
Stances
Wonders if Goodfellas echoes are purposeful
Scorsese directing would be more thrilling but less breezy
Wants answers on who planted the car bomb
Humor: Plays straight-man with deadpan nitpicks and question lists.
In their words
“my obsession with Martin Scorsese is probably rooted in the fact that I didn't have that.” (0:08:56)
“I just want to know how much of what he was doing was a purposeful homage to Goodfellas” (1:32:47)
Altman is in his top five favorite filmmakers and he knows the filmography cold, from Tanner '88 to Cookie's Fortune. He's a sucker for Carver and Blu-ray collecting and defends Greta Scacchi. He has little patience for TV-style stretches of an asshole.
Stances
Altman's legacy is the filmmakers he influenced
The Player is one of Altman's three or four best
Movies have been good for 15 months
The oral biography is the place to start with Altman
Humor: Dry and a little snobby about his own collector habits; deadpan fact-drops.
In their words
“He is in my top 5 favorite filmmakers ever.” (0:08:57)
“I think it's really like definitely one of his 3 or 4 best movies.” (0:10:20)
“I think movies have been good for like 15 months.” (1:40:05)
Film-nerd who values Willis's daring taste in directors and takes seriously the craft and the cultural footprint. Fond of Renny Harlin's Long Kiss Goodnight, De Palma, and a good that-guy roll call; skeptical of the movie's incoherent plot and the 9/11-erased airport.
Stances
Willis took risks with unproven filmmakers
Die Hard 2 is still among the better action movies of its era
Long Kiss Goodnight is Harlin's coolest movie
Air traffic control access was problematic
Humor: Dry, specific and film-literate; sets up jokes with precise references.
In their words
“he was willing to take on projects with filmmakers who were maybe not as proven.” (0:07:32)
Film-nerd who builds the big readings (Hitchcock lineage, Fincher career arc) and loves camera moves through walls and Blu-rays. Won't love the accent in Silence of the Lambs; sucker for nitpicks about propane physics.
Stances
Panic Room is Hitchcock doing Psycho after North by Northwest
Silence of the Lambs is still Foster's best
Likes Adventureland best of Stewart
Nitpicks the propane tank and phone logic
Humor: Dry and literate; gets teased for loving cameras inside walls and Blu-rays.
In their words
“I still think is probably the best thing she's ever been a part of” (0:29:47)
“I would say Adventureland is my favorite, Kristen Stewart” (1:34:50)
“Sean loves when we take cameras inside walls.” (1:21:07)
Loves Ang Lee's range, Brokeback Mountain, tragedy with satire, and thinking about how industry changes. Can't stand over-explained text. A sucker for Joan Allen and small observed behavior.
Stances
Lee has the most varied filmography of any major director in 30 years
The film is more satire than bum-out
Joan Allen is the apex pick
Humor: Earnest and precise, then undercuts with a deadpan aside.
In their words
“He probably has the most varied filmography of any major director in the last 30 years.” (0:09:07)
“Joan wins out of all the actors.” (1:23:11)
“I thought that movie was good, and that kind of came and went, and it was almost in the wrong decade.” (1:12:00)
Film-history lens: loves the Method actors versus movie-star divide, Scorsese's visual flourishes, and Newman's integrity. Dislikes the idea that Ebert missed the ending's point. A sucker for Grady Seasons and Amos scenes.
Stances
It's a torch-passing movie in both business and story
Ending ambiguity is the point, not a flaw
Newman integrity explains the forfeit
Scorsese is great at making a small movie feel big
Humor: Dry film-nerd asides, like claiming he will be 'young and vital forever.'
In their words
“Just that I'm going to be young and vital forever, so I still don't relate to any of that stuff, you know?” (0:21:09)
“it's one of the most exciting and entertaining movies he ever made.” (0:16:10)
“Newman is one of the few guys who basically fused both disciplines.” (0:05:48)
Proud Bill Murray devotee who frames careers in eras; loves the 'from hell' genre and craft details like cinematographer and editor credentials. A champion of Julie Hagerty and Dr. Melfi. Gets a kick out of deep trivia and the Muppets.
Stances
Murray has two phases, pre- and post-Rushmore
The film is a successor to Pacific Heights
Anna may be a post-college adult
Dreyfuss finally plays the character he was destined for
Humor: Confident, nerdy deep cuts and theory-building that makes the others groan, such as the post-college Anna reading.
In their words
“Think of this movie as a logical successor to Pacific Heights.” (0:46:51)
“Sean, you're a Bill Murray guy. Proudly. Proudly.” (0:03:35)
Admires Mann's themes and the rich cinematic lineage; calls himself a weed smoker for Heat but loves Thief. Fond of Caan's volatile nuance, finds Weld and Nelson fascinating.
Admires Fincher as a control-freak craftsman and sees Hitchcock behind Se7en. Can't stand when the Academy rewards uplift over difficult genre filmmaking. A sucker for the Freeman-as-lead reading.
Stances
Se7en is the darkest mainstream American movie ever made.
Pitt is not top-tier here; it is Freeman's movie.
Fincher won the movie.
Humor: Dry and precise, deadpan asides.
In their words
“this is just about the darkest mainstream American movie ever made.” (0:05:59)
“it's also just completely a Hitchcock movie in so many ways.” (0:14:30)
Critic-minded and history-minded: loves the real SNL oral histories, Siskel, Ritchie and Chandler-style noir. Cannot stand weak acting, especially Dana Wheeler-Nicholson here, and defends Siskel over Ebert. A sucker for HBO Max old movies.
Stances
You have to get Chevy Chase to get Fletch
Dana Wheeler-Nicholson is a bad actress
Ebert missed the point
Humor: Dry, authoritative asides and long rants framed as scholarship.
In their words
“I think if you don't get Chevy Chase, you will never get this movie.” (0:02:14)
“You may recall from the Tombstone podcast that I noted that she is a bad actress and she's not good in flutch.” (0:51:31)
Loves the Cameron-Ferris friendship, Hughes's relationships, and the film as a closed system of perfection. Cannot stand overthinking about why it works; a sucker for people who keep it together while coiled. Defends innocent fun and Cameron.
Stances
Ferris is the movie but audiences relate to Cameron
The film works as an unreplicable perfect moment
Jeffrey Jones was the right choice over Paul Gleason
Hughes is a rare writer who channels all kinds of characters
Humor: Dry, deadpan, quick to drop a zinger; the host who delivers the Silent Judge side-eye.
In their words
“It's like a, this is a very closed system of perfection.” (0:19:12)
“Your dirtbag ethics have nothing to do with what makes Ferris Bueller beautiful.” (1:26:08)
Treats Tarantino as the central author, loves Leo DiCaprio's work here, and defends the movie's themes against online complaints. Loves the Bruce Lee roof scene. Can't stand criticism that misses the point about beginnings and endings of careers.
Stances
Quentin wins every Tarantino movie
Leo's performance is the best of his career
The Margot Robbie criticism missed the point
Humor: Dry, deflecting, and gets teased about Equinox and Leo.
In their words
“I think Leo decided in like 1992.” (0:15:50)
“I think Quentin wins all of his movies.” (1:17:39)
Self-described not a huge Bond person who finds Skyfall scratches the part of his brain other Bonds do not; loves the Silva rat speech and dialogue scenes. A Peter Morgan disciple and Anglophile who can pick out British character actors.
Stances
Skyfall's action is accessible and legible
Silva dominates the film
Hacking is the worst-aged element
Humor: Deadpan nitpicks and bits about vlogging villains.
In their words
“I am not a huge bond person.” (0:04:20)
Their shows' recurring bits
Running bits, not opinions; a critic read aloud is cited, not present.
The Big Picture
Drafts: Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument.
Hall of Fame: A star's or director's best, ranked and argued.
Countdowns: Ranked lists, top five or top ten.
The Rewatchables
Apex Mountain: The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits.
Who Won the Movie: The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off.
The Ebert review: Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show.
Casting what-ifs: Who was almost cast, or who should have been.
Most rewatchable scene: The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels.
Aged best / aged worst: What holds up and what does not.
Picking Nits: The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits.
Double feature: The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick.
Their claims
Showing 201–300 of 1,576 claims.
unmapped (archetype successor):
Pete Davidson → Chevy Chase.
Davidson in his Staten Island movie plays the 2020 version of the wisecracking, can't-be-serious Chase archetype.
“He's basically doing 2020 Chevy Chase in a lot of ways in that movie.”
lineage (failed remake):
Fletch → Kevin Smith.
Kevin Smith spent years trying to remake Fletch with Jason Lee; Weinstein said Lee was not a big enough name, Affleck entered, then Bill Lawrence, and it died.
“Harvey Weinstein's like he's not a big enough name.”
unmapped (critic split):
Gene Siskel → Roger Ebert.
Siskel understood Chase's detached persona was the point of Fletch; Ebert gave 2.5 stars and wanted a character to invest in.
people (casting symmetry):
Tim Matheson → Animal House.
Otter was written for Chase, so Matheson's Animal House turn is a Chase impression; in Fletch Matheson hunts a lookalike to kill.
“So then when you watch Animal House, Tim Matheson is just doing a Chevy Chase impersonation, it's not actually Chevy Chase.”
industry (marketing context):
Fletch → Beverly Hills Cop.
Once Beverly Hills Cop hit, Fletch could be sold as an action comedy with Faltermeyer music and two action sequences.
“as soon as Beverly Hills cop hit, this movie made a lot more sense because you could put 2 big action sequences in it”
theme (noir plotting):
Fletch → Raymond Chandler.
Alan Stanwick's incoherent plan is Raymond Chandler style; Faulkner famously could not get the plot of The Big Sleep out of Chandler.
contrast (contrast):
Harold Faltermeyer → Stephanie Mills.
Speaker prefers Faltermeyer's score to the Stephanie Mills theme song 'Bit by Bit' that opens Fletch.
“I don't like the Stephanie Mills bit by bit at the beginning.”
unmapped (wardrobe knack):
Chevy Chase → Eddie Murphy.
Both could wear terrible 80s clothes and look cool, Murphy in Beverly Hills Cop, Chase in Fletch.
“him and Eddie Murphy had a real knack for being able to wear absolute dog shit clothes and make them look really cool.”
what-if (recast what-if):
Dana Wheeler-Nicholson → Elizabeth Shue.
Sean says casting Elizabeth Shue or Sharon Stone as Gail Stanwick would make Fletch a thousand times better.
“if you just put Elizabeth Shu or Sharon Stone in this movie, it's a 1000 times better.”
lineage (career origin):
Joe Don Baker → Walking Tall.
Baker is recognized by people 35 and over from Walking Tall, and later roasted in the MST3K episode Mitchell.
“Yeah, walking tall was kind of a borderline phenomenon when it came out.”
lineage (character lineage):
Alan Ruck → The Breakfast Club.
Cameron is an extension of Anthony Michael Hall's Breakfast Club character, with similar anxiety and a near suicide beat.
“Yeah, it's kind of an extension of the Anthony Michael Hall character in Breakfast Club.”
contrast (persona inversion):
Matthew Broderick → The Cable Guy.
Within ten years Broderick is playing Cameron-like weak men in The Cable Guy, inverting his Ferris persona.
“within 10 years, he's in the cable guy basically just playing Cameron.”
“literally the I dream of Jeannie song and the Star Wars theme appear in the movie, and those songs don't belong to the movie, and yet they do at the same time.”
people (casting contrast):
Jeffrey Jones → Paul Gleason.
Jones is more sitcommy like Laurel and Hardy while Gleason is a huge prick; Jones was the right choice for tone.
“Paul Gleason has a different energy than Jeffrey Jones.”
career (career-arc comparison):
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood → The Verdict.
This period of Pitt (Moneyball, OUATIH) is likened to Newman's The Verdict and Color of Money stage.
“once upon a time in Hollywood is, like, almost like verdict, color of Money Newman.”
craft (craft):
Casino Royale → Quantum of Solace.
Casino Royale sung by Chris Cornell and Quantum by Jack White and Alicia Keys, both strange compared with Adele.
“theme song in Quantum of Solace is sung by Jack White and Alicia Keys, and it's actually quite strange.”
craft (craft):
Roger Deakins → Skyfall.
The shot-from-behind-Bond's-shoulder Silva intro is Deakins photography, and the movie is candy for movie nerds.
career (career):
Sean Connery → Daniel Craig.
Craig is a legitimately great actor, which wasn't true of most Bonds; Connery hadn't yet built his chops.
“They were great movie performers, but not necessarily great actors.”
lineage (lineage):
Beverly Hills Cop → Mean Streets.
The Detroit opening with the two guys in the truck has a Mean Streets moment that distinguishes it from other 80s blockbusters.
“I love the fact that they just like kind of have this mean streets moment in the beginning of this movie.”
industry (Oscar snub):
Do the Right Thing → Driving Miss Daisy.
Driving Miss Daisy won best picture the year Do the Right Thing was not nominated; the snub is the reason the film is remembered in awards history.
“This is, of course, the year that driving Miss Daisy won best picture.”
craft (craft):
Do the Right Thing → Ernest Dickerson.
The speaker calls it one of the most beautifully shot films he has seen, crediting Dickerson's color, weather and tilted camera angles.
“It's one of the most beautifully shot films I've ever seen. Ernest Dickerson.”
contrast (tone contrast):
Do the Right Thing → Wedding Crashers.
Most Rewatchables picks are quotable fun like Wedding Crashers; this movie is different.
“a lot of the movies we do on this show are like wedding crashers.”
contrast (tone contrast):
Do the Right Thing → Beverly Hills Cop.
Beverly Hills Cop is a comfort rewatch whose social import is extra-textual; Do the Right Thing is working hard to be important and disrupt comfort.
“it's working hard to be important, and it's working hard to disrupt your feeling of ease and comfort.”
lineage (pseudo-sequel):
Red Hook Summer → Do the Right Thing.
Mookie reappears delivering for a Sal's that has relocated to Red Hook, though Spike insisted it was not a sequel.
contrast (critical opposite):
Roger Ebert → David Denby.
Ebert's Cannes tears and empathy versus Denby's New York magazine scorn; Sean calls Denby's one of the worst pieces of criticism he has read.
“You know, one of the worst pieces of film criticism that I've ever read.”
unmapped (commercial work):
Spike Lee → Michael Jordan.
Spike was famous partly via Mars Blackmon and the Michael Jordan commercials, which colored critical reception.
“he was a famous person in part because of Mars Blackman in part because of Michael Jordan and the commercial work that he did.”
unmapped (political framing):
Joe Klein → David Dinkins.
Klein framed the movie as a problem for Dinkins' mayoral campaign, the opposite of Spike's intent.
“The way that Klein positioned it was in opposition to David Dinkin's mayoral campaign.”
people (collaborator):
Spike Lee → Ernest Dickerson.
Dickerson, Spike's DP here, went on to be a filmmaker without a huge public profile; the two storyboarded the final sequence together.
“him and Dickerson, storyboard, exactly what happens”
lineage (callback):
25th Hour → Do the Right Thing.
25th Hour repeats the racial slur montage as Ed Norton's mirror monologue; Wesley says the repeats made the original less effective for him but 25th Hour has greatness.
lineage (influence):
Wes Anderson → Do the Right Thing.
Direct address to camera (Mr. Senor Love Daddy and the like) was taken up by the whole indie revolution, Wes Anderson most of all.
“Using direct address into the camera as a style, which has been now jacked by basically the whole indie revolution that came after him.”
people (feud):
Spike Lee → Quentin Tarantino.
Sean thinks Spike's long clash with Tarantino is partly because Tarantino took things directly from this movie.
“So there's this longtime clash between Spike and Tarantino.”
unmapped (borrowed line):
Quentin Tarantino → Do the Right Thing.
Sean says Tarantino lifted the 'shoot me in a dream, wake up and apologize' line from Do the Right Thing into Reservoir Dogs.
“you shoot me in a dream, you better wake up and apologize, which is something that I think Robin Harris says in the movie, which later appears in Reservoir Dogs”
unmapped (borrowed speech):
True Romance → Do the Right Thing.
The Sicilians-and-Moors speech in True Romance echoes what Mookie says to Pino in Sal's.
“Well, Sicilians and and Africans and the Moors in that whole speech that appears in true romance, which is also something that Mookie essentially says to Pino”
what-if (casting what-if):
Robert De Niro → Do the Right Thing.
Spike campaigned for De Niro as Sal; Wesley argues his baggage would have tipped the film's equal-weighted balance and made it a different movie.
craft (craft):
Ruth Carter → John Savage.
Spike bought the Larry Bird jersey in a store and gave it to costume designer Ruth Carter, who gave it to John Savage, debunking Savage's own story.
“Spike bought that shirt in a store, gave it to Ruthie Carter, the costume designer of this movie and the costume designer on many of Spike's movies, and Ruth Carter gave it to John Savage.”
lineage (real-events inspiration):
Do the Right Thing → Eleanor Bumpurs.
The film was inspired by Howard Beach and Eleanor Bumpers, plus a list of other deaths in 1980s New York.
“It was also inspired, as you mentioned, by the Howard Beach racial incident in Eleanor Bumpers.”
unmapped (double standard):
Do the Right Thing → Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Spike points out nobody feared audiences leaving Schwarzenegger films to kill people.
“I don't remember people saying people were going to come out of theaters killing people after they watched an Arnold Schwarzenegger film.”
theme (moral-panic parallel):
Do the Right Thing → Basic Instinct.
Basic Instinct raised concern about its effect, a different kind of fear than Do the Right Thing.
“There was concern, though, about whether or not basic instinct was going to what effect it was going to have.”
verdict (apex debate):
Do the Right Thing → 4 Little Girls.
Wesley argues 4 Little Girls and other work challenge the claim that Do the Right Thing is the Spike apex; Sean says the screenplay is why this one is, for fiction.
“the reason that I'm saying do the right thing is the apex of his filmmaking.”
unmapped (prescient detail):
Do the Right Thing → Black Panther.
A character holds a Black Panther comic and eats pizza; Sean first noticed it in the age of Coogler.
lineage (TV adaptation question):
Do the Right Thing → She's Gotta Have It.
Asked whether it could work as a 10-episode Netflix show, Wesley says no, noting Spike already made a TV show of She's Gotta Have It.
“As we know, he already made a TV show out of she's got to have it.”
industry (industry):
Reservoir Dogs → Sex, Lies, and Videotape.
Sex, Lies and Boys n the Hood are the two festival-born indie films that Reservoir Dogs continues.
“indie-minded festival entries from young people who are going to basically take over Hollywood”
career (career comparison):
Will Ferrell → Mike Myers.
Ferrell tried Myers' playbook of turning an SNL character into a movie, but never got his Wayne's World.
“He tried to take a character from the show and make a movie out of it, and that was not successful.”
theme (same-era run):
Old School → Wedding Crashers.
Old School starts the R-rated comedy boom that runs through Wedding Crashers, Superbad, Step Brothers, and The Hangover.
“This sets off an era from 03 all the way through, and the R-rated comedy boom”
unmapped (meta-commentary on 80s comedies):
Old School → Pineapple Express.
Old School and the Apatow-era movies after it are meta commentaries on earlier comedies; Pineapple Express is that generation's Midnight Run or 48 Hrs.
“they're basically trying to make their version of Midnight Run or 48 hours or those kinds of action comedies, thriller comedies from the 80s”
people (same director groundwork):
Old School → Road Trip.
Road Trip, Phillips' first narrative film, laid groundwork for the R-rated run; it is set at an upstate New York college like Old School.
“Todd Phillips's 1st movie. First narrative movie.”
unmapped (borrowed from):
Old School → Life of the Party.
Melissa McCarthy's Life of the Party is basically a solo Old School, down to the closing pop-star performance.
“That is basically like a solo old school about how she goes back to school.”
lineage (sequel wish list):
Wayne's World 2 → Old School.
Asked which comedy sequel they'd want, Old School 2 beats Wedding Crashers 2; Wayne's World 2 is the great comedy sequel.
people (character-actor trail):
Patrick Fischler → Mulholland Drive.
Fischler, the Piven henchman, is the guy telling the diner story in Mulholland Drive.
“What is he's also so memorable in Mulholland Drive, where he tells the story in the diner”
craft (joke structure):
Old School → Fight Club.
The Godfather secret in front of Pompeo works like a Fight Club rule about not talking about it outside.
unmapped (producing partnership):
Todd Phillips → Bradley Cooper.
Phillips and Bradley Cooper are producing partners, so Phillips could be on stage if A Star Is Born wins.
lineage (inspiration dispute):
Frank Sinatra → The Godfather.
Sinatra was mad because Johnny Fontane resembled him and the From Here to Eternity role; Sean denies Fontane is a Sinatra replica.
“Johnny Fontaine is not a replica of Frank Sinatra.”
fun, about
Napoleon (unmade Kubrick film):
The book 'Stanley Kubrick's Napoleon' is Sean's heaviest book, with phone-book pages holding thousands of pages of documents.
“The book is so big that the pages are almost like telephone book pages.”
fun, about
Tenet:
Sean and Amanda drove about 130 miles round trip to a San Diego drive-in to see Tenet in a heat wave, parked side by side. Amanda left claiming she understood the whole film; they will try to explain it on the pod next week.
“The movie ended and she said, I get it. I know everything that happened.”
fun, about
Chadwick Boseman:
Sean rewatched Black Panther the night before, saying it lived up to unprecedented anticipation, which never happens in mainstream culture.
fun, about
Mulan:
Controversy: filmed in Xinjiang, where Muslims are held in mass internment camps; lead Yifei Liu's Hong Kong police tweet triggered #BoycottMulan.
“was filmed in uh, Jinjiang, the region in China, where uh, Muslims have been detained in mass internment camps.”
fun, about
Cruella:
Sean reads the logline: a 1970s London fashion designer obsessed with dogskins, especially Dalmatians; Amanda and Jason react with horror.
“young fashion designer Cruella DeVille becomes obsessed with dogs skins, especially Dalmatians, until she eventually becomes a ruthless and terrifying legend.”
fun, about
The Little Mermaid (upcoming live action remake):
Casting rundown: Halle Bailey as Ariel, Melissa McCarthy as Ursula, Javier Bardem as King Triton, plus voices Daveed Diggs, Awkwafina and Jacob Tremblay; King Triton is described as xenophobic toward humans.
“Ariel's overprotective father and the king of Atlantica, who is xenophobic towards humans.”
fun, about
Trolls World Tour:
Parents reportedly rented the 48-hour 19.99 title three weekends running; the hosts bless parents and hope kids learned respect for country as well as rock and pop.
“I had people anecdotally tell me that they rented the movie 3 weekends in a row.”
fun, about
The Great Moment:
Host watched Preston Sturges's late biopic about William Morton, inventor of ether, during a pandemic film-history bender.
“I watched Preston Sturgis's The Great Moment last night about William Morton, the inventor of ether, who revolutionized dentistry.”
fun, about
David Fincher:
Netflix is betting on a black-and-white, no-movie-star historical drama because studios have not funded Fincher in 7 or 8 years.
“studios haven't been giving David Fincher money to make movies for the last 7 or 8 years for a reason.”
fun, about
Netflix and the Egyptian Theatre:
Netflix bought the Egyptian and was refurbishing the Paris Theater; a host reads the moves as overtures to older Academy members.
“those overtures were made to ingratiate themselves to the older members of the academy”
fun, about
Alamo Drafthouse:
A six-hour evening: movie, whiskey cocktail, fries, rent a video from the same filmmaker at their video store, beer and trivia, which AMC does not offer.
“And that is a 6 hour evening in a movie palace that AMC is not offering.”
fun, about
Academy Awards:
From 24 awards to 23 by merging sound; one host wants 75 awards and a five-day festival; another wants best first feature and best breakthrough.
“There should be 75 awards. This should be a 5 day festival of handing out awards.”
fun, about
Stunt Oscar:
A host zags on the stunt category: everyone demands it without knowing why, while still wanting to honor stunt work with an honorary award; joke pitch: Zoom Stunt Oscars with DVDs held up.
“Everybody needs to just settle down with pretending that they really like stunts in movies.”
fun, about
Twilight Zone: The Movie:
An episode of the Shudder series Cursed covers the 1982 set death of Vic Morrow and two children in a helicopter stunt; Landis was acquitted.
“A helicopter crashed during a stunt and Vic Morrow, Jennifer Jason Lee's father, was killed along with 2 children during the making of this movie”
fun, about
Incredible Hulk / Iron Man:
Trivia win: the two characters in the first two MCU films, Hulk and Iron Man, earned the team points after a host sprinted out of frame.
“It's the Incredible Hulk and Iron Man, you fools.”
fun, about
Postponed films:
Sean tracks 18 postponed undated films that could drop when theaters reopen, listing New Mutants, Promising Young Woman, Bad Trip, The High Note, Run, Military Wives, Greyhound and Malignant.
“there have been 18 movies that have been postponed and are undated at the moment.”
fun, about
Alita: Battle Angel:
Sean watches strangers watch Alita on planes and tracks the actors he recognizes; the 15-minute motorball fight keeps breaking for exposition and restarting.
“I watched people watch it on the plane and then at some point I just took kept track of like the actors I could recognize.”
fun, about
John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum:
The dog-fight sequence took six months to design and train, and director Chad Stahelski told this podcast it was the hardest thing he had done. Wins best action sequence.
“I took 6 months to design and train the dogs to execute this fight.”
fun, about
Spider-Man: Far From Home:
Sean argues the post-credits scene (J.K. Simmons outing Peter Parker on a Times Square screen) is the best ending of 2019 because the theater erupted; Amanda calls it a teaser, not an ending.
“That was the loudest vocal reaction I had heard to a movie in 2019.”
fun, about
Midsommar:
Sean defends the ending by asking whether anyone has been sewn inside a bear skin and lit on fire in a giant triangle; Midsommar also wins best meme inspiration and Halloween costumes.
“Have you ever been sewn inside of a bear skin and lit on fire in a giant triangle.”
fun, about
The Lighthouse:
Sean is so devoted he'll launch a minute-by-minute Lighthouse podcast alone in a lighthouse; Amanda calls him an A24-merch-bro Reddit nerd and says Eggers shows his work too much.
“what you are is a Reddit nerd, bro, and you hate this. I believe what I said was A24 merch, bro.”
fun, about
Richard Jewell:
Paul Walter Hauser was a guest and recited A Few Good Men past the code red, continuing through the officer on deck; Sean says he can do it too.
“He started doing like this, the extended a few good men recitation, like we had done, the normal code red stuff, and then he just kept going”
fun, about
Richard Jewell:
Hauser's home scene with Kathy Bates sells the age of the relationship with comfort alone, and the film cooks whenever Jewell, Rockwell and Bates share a room.
“these 3 people are amazingly comfortable with each other.”
fun, about
Blair Witch (The Woods):
Sean says its last 30 minutes are the most scared he has ever been in a theater, though he doesn't think the film is good.
“the last 30 minutes of Blair Witch is the most scared I think I may have ever been in a movie theater”
fun, about
Soul / Inside Out:
Sean can only remember Inside Out as a drawing and confuses its Sadness creature with Tina Fey's Soul; Amanda saw it in a theater.
“No, I saw that in a movie theater. Really? Yeah, I just couldn't remember anything about it because it's a drawing.”
fun, about
Paul Thomas Anderson / Once Upon a Time in Hollywood:
Sean riffs on the DGA podcast, where PTA gushed about Brad Pitt, and impersonates him on the Moana bit.
“Because Paul Thomas Anderson is being like, Quentin, fucking Brad. In this movie.”
fun, about
Fleabag / Succession vs Once Upon a Time in Hollywood:
Sean says that's why the show is The Big Picture and not The Watch: he would take one great movie over Fleabag.
“And that's why this is the big picture and not the watch.”
fun, about
Captain Marvel:
The 90s signaling: a never-worn Guns N' Roses T-shirt, and Carol stealing a Nine Inch Nails shirt off a mannequin as a metaphor for the film.
“steals a 9 inch nails t-shirt and a leather jacket off of a mannequin outside of a boutique.”
fun, about
Captain Marvel:
The big fight scene is set to No Doubt's Just a Girl while she punches Jude Law, which Sean finds cute and clever but ham-handed.
“certainly the chorus of that song makes it fit when she's punching Jude Law on the face repeatedly.”
fun, about
The Ringer office:
A Ringer Slack prompt for the most 90s song stopped work for an hour; Dan Devine said Smells Like Teen Spirit immediately.
“Dan Devine gave immediately, which was smells like teen spirit.”
fun, about
Guardians of the Galaxy:
Amanda knows Guardians only as the raccoon voiced by Bradley Cooper, and Sean suggests she go by Amanda the Accuser.
“perhaps you should go by Amanda the accuser in future podcasts.”
fun, about
Captain Marvel:
Opening weekend benchmark: less than $150 million would be called a disappointment, even though few can open a movie on name alone.
“less than $150000000 in the opening weekend would be considered a relative disappointment for a Marvel movie like this”
fun, about
Kingdom Come:
Sean explains the Alex Ross series, set 50 or 60 years later with an older Batman in a wheelchair and gray-streaked Wonder Woman, calling it very melodramatic.