Philip Seymour Hoffman
Made films the shows talk about.
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Counted as other. The films the hosts said they were tied to, which the two lists below run through too: Rocky (1976); After Hours (1985); Weird Science (1985); Working Girl (1988); Species (1995); The Ice Storm (1997); The Truman Show (1998); Lady in the Water (2006); Margin Call (2011); F1 (2025). Count them as actor (18 films) instead.
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
The Last Temptation of Christ (1988): 3 lines
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career (personal projection) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
The Last Temptation of Christ ⇒ After Hours (the maker said so: Scorsese quoted in an oral history).
Scorsese worked Kafka's Before the Law into the club doorman scene to reflect his frustration over Last Temptation.
“inspired by Franz Kafka's before the law. And Scorsese said the short story reflected his frustration toward the production of the Last Temptation of Christ.”
The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 1:23:31 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
unmapped (cause) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
The Last Temptation of Christ ⇒ After Hours (the maker said so: a Scorsese quote on After Hours being a reaction to the Last Temptation ordeal).
After Paramount collapsed Last Temptation, Scorsese wanted a cheap, personal film; After Hours is his reaction to the Hollywood ordeal.
“it's a reaction against my year and a half into Hollywood trying to get last temptation to Christ made.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 0:50:49 · unknown host (quoting Scorsese) (0.35 sure it was them) -
unmapped (sliding door) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
The Last Temptation of Christ ⇒ After Hours (the host's read).
Paramount cancelling Last Temptation sent Scorsese to a small fast job; one of movie history's sliding doors.
“it is one of the massive sliding doors in movie history because him not making it leads to him making this movie”
The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:17:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
Mad Max 2 (1981): 2 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through Weird Science (1985), which they were tied to as what-if casting as Chet:
Mad Max 2 ⇒ Weird Science (the host's read).
The climactic biker-gang sequence is an homage to The Road Warrior with the same actor and makeup.
“it's pulled right from this movie that had just come out, same actor, same makeup, same everything, they're like doing an homage to it”
The Rewatchables · ‘Weird Science’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt · 1:08:03 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them) -
craft (craft) · through Weird Science (1985), which they were tied to as what-if casting as Chet:
Mad Max 2 ⇒ Weird Science (the host's read).
The Road Warrior homage is a nine-minute sequence, about 10% of the movie.
“It comprises 10% of the whole movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Weird Science’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt · 1:08:58 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
Al Feldstein: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Weird Science (1985), which they were tied to as what-if casting as Chet:
Al Feldstein ⇒ Weird Science (the host's read).
The movie is based on a 1951 pre-Code comic by Al Feldstein.
“this was based on the 1951 pre-comics code comic made of the future by Al Feldstein.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Weird Science’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt · 0:30:25 · Bill Simmons (0.80 sure it was them)
Alfred Hitchcock: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Truman Show (1998), which they were tied to as what-if Marlon:
Alfred Hitchcock ⇒ The Truman Show (the host's read).
Same line: the premise is Frank Capra crossed with Hitchcock.
“you basically take Frank Capra and Alpha Hitchcock and you put it together, and that's what this movie is.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Truman Show’ With Bill Simmons, Glen Powell, and Chris Ryan · 0:29:43 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Alien (1979): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Species (1995), which they were tied to as suggested recasting (Molina part):
Alien ⇒ Species (the maker said so).
Giger thought Species ripped off too many other alien movies, such as the chest-burster.
“He thought the movie ripped off too many other alien movies”
The Rewatchables · ‘Species’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:12:56 · Bill Simmons (0.30 sure it was them)
An Officer and a Gentleman (1982): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Working Girl (1988), which they were tied to as what-if casting: would have played Spacey's part:
An Officer and a Gentleman ⇒ Working Girl (the host's read).
The kiss-and-secretaries-cheer moment is an Officer and a Gentleman homage.
“And then I had the officer and a gentleman homage when they're kissing and one of the secretaries says, way to go.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Working Girl’ With Bill Simmons, Amanda Dobbins, and Joanna Robinson · 1:13:08 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
Baby It's You (1983): 1 line
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lineage (production lineage) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
Baby It's You ⇒ After Hours (the host's read).
Without Baby It's You (Dunn/Robinson, Arquette, Ballhaus) there is no After Hours, since it brought Ballhaus to Scorsese.
“without that movie, we don't have after hours either because they bring Michael Bauhaus to Scorsese.”
The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 1:16:29 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
Chuck Wepner: 1 line
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people (people) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as hypothetical casting:
Chuck Wepner ⇒ Rocky (the host's read).
Stallone watched Wepner take a beating from Ali for 15 rounds and was inspired to write Rocky in 3.5 days.
“He's watching Webner Ali in 75, which was the real life version of this.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:19:58 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Ernst Lubitsch: 1 line
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unmapped (comic technique) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
Ernst Lubitsch ⇒ After Hours (the host's read).
The film's elegant timing and characterization is Scorsese flexing Lubitsch, his filmmaking hero.
“this is the movie where Marty gets to flex a little Lubich stuff, who was obviously a big filmmaking hero of his”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 0:39:55 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Frank Capra: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Truman Show (1998), which they were tied to as what-if Marlon:
Frank Capra ⇒ The Truman Show (the host's read).
Nichol's idea is described as Capra plus Hitchcock combined.
“you basically take Frank Capra and Alpha Hitchcock and you put it together, and that's what this movie is.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Truman Show’ With Bill Simmons, Glen Powell, and Chris Ryan · 0:29:43 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Fritz Lang: 1 line
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lineage (influence) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
Fritz Lang ⇒ After Hours (the maker said so: Scorsese's own account of his influences on the film).
Lang's nighttime nightmare noirs (M, Manhunt, Woman in the Window) were influences.
“And then some Fritz Lange movies. like M, Manhunt, Woman in the Window, you know, nighttime noiry, nightmare movies, stuff like that.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 0:51:36 · unknown host (0.35 sure it was them)
Isle of the Dead (1945): 1 line
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lineage (influence) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
Isle of the Dead ⇒ After Hours (the maker said so: Scorsese's own account of his influences on the film).
Scorsese cited Isle of the Dead, a one-night Greek island story, as an influence.
“Isle of the Dead, a Val Luton movie that takes place like over one night on a Greek island.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 0:51:19 · unknown host (0.35 sure it was them)
Joe Frank: 1 line
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unmapped (alleged plagiarism) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
Joe Frank ⇒ After Hours (the maker said so: Joe Frank himself, as reported in a 2000 Salon profile).
Joe Frank's 1982 monologue 'Lies' was allegedly lifted for After Hours' opening act; 'Lies' was the script's first title.
“the opening act is basically ripping off a 1982 monologue he had called lies, which is the 1st title of this script.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 0:37:27 · unknown host (reading JJ Bersch's research) (0.40 sure it was them)
Martin Donnelly: 1 line
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craft (craft) · through F1 (2025), which they were tied to as casting idea for villain investor in Spielberg version:
Martin Donnelly ⇒ F1 (the host's read).
The crash that ends Sonny's career was based on Donnelly's real crash, and he advised on the film.
“The crash that ended, Sonny's career was based on the actual crash of Martin Donnelly in the 1990s Spanish Grand Prix.”
The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:25:28 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
North by Northwest (1959): 1 line
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lineage (influence) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
North by Northwest ⇒ After Hours (the maker said so: Scorsese's own account of his influences on the film).
The world-against-him framed-man structure of North by Northwest was an influence.
“That's sort of like the world is against him. He's been framed.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 0:51:28 · unknown host (0.35 sure it was them)
Oliver Stone: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Margin Call (2011), which they were tied to as hypothetical recast as Sam:
Oliver Stone ⇒ Margin Call (the maker said so: Brian speaking about his own writing).
Oliver Stone is as big an influence on Brian's dialogue as anybody but Mamet.
“Oliver Stone's big an influence on the way that I write dialogue as anybody but Mammoth.”
The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 1:09:43 · Brian Koppelman (0.65 sure it was them)
Rear Window (1954): 1 line
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lineage (stealth homage) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
Rear Window ⇒ After Hours (the host's read).
The neighborhood shooting seen through a window is a Hitchcock rear-window moment never mentioned again; Hitchcock and Fritz Lang noir are influences.
“there's Hitchcock and Fritz Lange Noir movies are a huge influence on this movie, and that's like such a perfect rear window moment”
The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:58:09 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
Rick Moody's novel: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Ice Storm (1997), which they were tied to as actor, recast wish for the Reverend, Jim Carver, or Paul:
Rick Moody's novel ⇒ The Ice Storm (the host's read).
Based on Rick Moody's 1994 book; the author cried at the end of a cut and said they got it.
“It's based on Rick Moody's 1994 book, who saw a cut of it and cried at the end and was like, my God, they got it.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:08:18 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Rocky IV (1985): 1 line
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theme (theme) · through F1 (2025), which they were tied to as casting idea for villain investor in Spielberg version:
Rocky IV ⇒ F1 (the host's read).
Sonny and Kate's beer scene cuts into an old-school versus new-school training montage like Rocky IV.
“Right into the Rocky 4 training montage”
The Rewatchables · ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:48:10 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Superbad (2007): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Weird Science (1985), which they were tied to as what-if casting as Chet:
Superbad ⇒ Weird Science (the host's read).
Weird Science may be the biggest influence on Superbad.
“Like, I feel like, I don't know which was the biggest influence on Superbad.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Weird Science’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt · 0:07:45 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
The Brady Bunch Movie (1995): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Ice Storm (1997), which they were tied to as actor, recast wish for the Reverend, Jim Carver, or Paul:
The Brady Bunch Movie ⇒ The Ice Storm (the host's read).
Simmons traces a mid-90s wave of 70s nostalgia (Brady Bunch movies, Reality Bites) that led to harder looks like Ice Storm.
“They make the Brady Bunch movie, which is a parody of the Brady Bunch.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:12:44 · Bill Simmons (0.90 sure it was them)
The Breakfast Club (1985): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Weird Science (1985), which they were tied to as what-if casting as Chet:
The Breakfast Club ⇒ Weird Science (the host's read).
Gary's girlfriend in Canada is a gag taken from Breakfast Club.
“Like, that's the thing directly from Breakfast Club.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Weird Science’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt · 0:17:25 · Kyle Brandt (0.55 sure it was them)
The King of Comedy (1982): 1 line
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industry (studio retreat) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
The King of Comedy ⇒ After Hours (the maker said so: Scorsese's quote, via Biskind).
King of Comedy bombing and Fox pulling it set up Scorsese's retreat to small-scale After Hours; he said 70s directors had lost to studios.
“And that was when I really understood that the 70s were over for me”
The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:18:28 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
The Longest Yard: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as hypothetical casting:
The Longest Yard ⇒ Rocky (the host's read).
Longest Yard arguably started the big-event beats, but Rocky is what made the sports-movie recipe stick.
“which I guess you could say longest yard started it, but once Rocky did this.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:06:09 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)
The Wizard of Oz (1939): 1 line
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lineage (homage) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
The Wizard of Oz ⇒ After Hours (the host's read).
Dark-side-of-the-yellow-brick-road version; Dorothy walks into black and white instead of color, with 'surrender Dorothy' graffiti and Marcy's Seconal tie to Judy Garland.
“it is like very much a Wizard of Oz kind of homage, and it's like if Dorothy instead walked into the black and white darkness”
The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:11:14 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
Billions: 2 lines
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career (career) · through Margin Call (2011), which they were tied to as hypothetical recast as Sam:
Margin Call ⇒ Billions (the maker said so: Koppelman, Billions co-creator, on the show).
Koppelman says Margin Call reaffirmed how he and Dave had thought about these people, and made a hedge-fund story make more sense than a bank story.
“margin call may be reaffirmed that the way Dave and I thought about these people, as we'd met them, was pretty much like the way a lot of them are”
The Rewatchables · ‘Margin Call’ With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman · 0:21:18 · Brian Koppelman (0.90 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Margin Call (2011), which they were tied to as hypothetical recast as Sam:
Margin Call ⇒ Billions (the maker said so: Koppelman, Billions co-creator, on the show).
Koppelman says the borrowed lesson is that Margin Call does not speak down to the viewer.
“this movie doesn't speak down to the viewer”
The Rewatchables · ‘Margin Call’ With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman · 0:21:59 · Brian Koppelman (0.90 sure it was them)
Creed (2015): 2 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as hypothetical casting:
Rocky ⇒ Creed (the host's read).
Merchant says Creed repeated Rocky's trick of making you care about the character before the fighting.
“when they rebooted it with Creed, I think they did the same thing”
The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting With My Family’ | Interview (Ep. 130) · 0:46:07 · Stephen Merchant (0.95 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as hypothetical casting:
Rocky ⇒ Creed (the host's read).
Creed closely follows Rocky's structure, but opens with Creed obviously able to fight, unlike Rocky's grim opening bout.
“in Creed, which very closely follows some of the structures of rocky.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:38:15 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)
Fighting with My Family (2019): 2 lines
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craft (craft) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as hypothetical casting:
Rocky ⇒ Fighting with My Family (the maker said so: Merchant in this interview).
Merchant says you cannot make a sports movie without watching Rocky and all its sequels.
“make any kind of sports a movie without watching Rocky or indeed all of the Rockies”
The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting With My Family’ | Interview (Ep. 130) · 0:45:46 · Stephen Merchant (0.95 sure it was them) -
craft (craft) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as hypothetical casting:
Rocky ⇒ Fighting with My Family (the maker said so: Merchant in this interview).
Merchant calls Rocky a template because it beds in character so you root for him before the fight, a lesson he applied.
“a template in the sense that it really beds in character”
The Big Picture · Pro Wrestling Goes to the Movies, Plus Stephen Merchant on ‘Fighting With My Family’ | Interview (Ep. 130) · 0:46:00 · Stephen Merchant (0.95 sure it was them)
Goodfellas (1990): 2 lines
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unmapped (stylistic seed) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
After Hours ⇒ Goodfellas (the host's read).
Sean says the fast cutting, whip-pans and close-ups in After Hours are the seeds of Goodfellas' look, via cinematographer Michael Ballhaus.
“just seeing all the seeds of Goodfellas and all these little edits and camera shots.”
The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:04:02 · Sean Fennessey (0.70 sure it was them) -
career (career hinge) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
After Hours ⇒ Goodfellas (the host's read).
Bill says Goodfellas does not happen if After Hours does not happen first; the cancelled Last Temptation is the sliding door.
“I don't know if Goodfellas happens.”
The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:17:21 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Pretty Woman (1990): 2 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through Working Girl (1988), which they were tied to as what-if casting: would have played Spacey's part:
Working Girl ⇒ Pretty Woman (the host's read).
Pretty Woman borrows openly from Working Girl's Cinderella story.
“It openly steal shit from this movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Working Girl’ With Bill Simmons, Amanda Dobbins, and Joanna Robinson · 0:08:48 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
programming (programming) · through Working Girl (1988), which they were tied to as what-if casting: would have played Spacey's part:
Working Girl ⇒ Pretty Woman (the host's read).
Pairing Working Girl and Pretty Woman as a Cinderella double feature to see what Pretty Woman took.
“It double Cinderella and then you're watching Purdue Woman seeing all the things they took.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Working Girl’ With Bill Simmons, Amanda Dobbins, and Joanna Robinson · 2:05:09 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
(the modern sports movie): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as hypothetical casting:
Rocky ⇒ (the modern sports movie) (the host's read).
Rocky created the sports-movie prototype and the modern underdog.
“created the sports movie prototype, like just period.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:05:47 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
Bull Durham (1988): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as hypothetical casting:
Rocky ⇒ Bull Durham (the host's read).
Bull Durham took the Rocky motto a level further in how a sports movie is written.
“how can we take that rocky motto and actually go the next level with how we write a movie”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Natural’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin · 0:25:51 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
Cinderella Man (2005): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as hypothetical casting:
Rocky ⇒ Cinderella Man (the host's read).
Rocky set up the idea that a victory transforms the supporting cast too, as in Cinderella Man where he fights for Giamatti.
“by the time you get to like Cinderella man, you realize that he's not just fighting for him, he's fighting for Giamatti.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:28:11 · Chris Ryan (0.45 sure it was them)
Date Night (2010): 1 line
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theme (genre mutation) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
After Hours ⇒ Date Night (the host's read).
Date Night is After Hours turned into an action movie, piling on too much incident.
“Date night is action movie after hours.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 0:35:40 · unknown host (0.40 sure it was them)
Go (1999): 1 line
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lineage (influence) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
After Hours ⇒ Go (the host's read).
Go is late-90s After Hours with weird cameos.
“they should have paid royalties to Sworses.”
The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 1:31:36 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Oingo Boingo: 1 line
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craft (craft) · through Weird Science (1985), which they were tied to as what-if casting as Chet:
Weird Science ⇒ Oingo Boingo (the host's read).
The speaker imagines the title song was written after the band was told the plot and shown the film, Frankenstein vibe included.
“I'm making this movie. It's about these 15 year old kids that create basically like the perfect woman and she comes out of the computer and has sex with them.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Weird Science’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt · 1:13:46 · Bill Simmons (0.55 sure it was them)
Raging Bull (1980): 1 line
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theme (anti-genre) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as hypothetical casting:
Rocky ⇒ Raging Bull (the maker said so).
Scorsese shot in black and white to differentiate from Rocky-era bright red-white-and-blue boxing movies, and producer Winkler produced both.
“Number one, I want to differentiate from the Rockies and all the other sort of boxing movies right now.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Raging Bull with David Krumholtz · 1:08:55 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Rocky Balboa (2006): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as hypothetical casting:
Rocky ⇒ Rocky Balboa (the host's read).
The little girl Marie from Rocky grows up to be the love interest in Rocky Balboa.
“she then becomes the Rocky Balboa love interest.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:14:31 · Van Lathan (0.45 sure it was them)
Superbad (2007): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Weird Science (1985), which they were tied to as what-if casting as Chet:
Weird Science ⇒ Superbad (the host's read).
Weird Science's ending was 'completely ripped off by super bad'.
“Uh, really satisfying ending, then just completely ripped off by super bad.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Weird Science’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt · 0:42:03 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them)
Survivor: 1 line
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industry (industry) · through The Truman Show (1998), which they were tied to as what-if Marlon:
The Truman Show ⇒ Survivor (the host's read).
Truman Show weirdly kicked off reality TV, predating Survivor by a year or two.
“This kind of weirdly kicked it off, like this predated by a year or two.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Truman Show’ With Bill Simmons, Glen Powell, and Chris Ryan · 0:12:44 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Swingtown (TV): 1 line
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programming (programming) · through The Ice Storm (1997), which they were tied to as actor, recast wish for the Reverend, Jim Carver, or Paul:
The Ice Storm ⇒ Swingtown (TV) (the host's read).
Swingtown tried to tap the key party idea but belonged on Cinemax.
“That show has to be on Cinemax.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 0:50:18 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
The Color of Money (1986): 1 line
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career (career bridge) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
After Hours ⇒ The Color of Money (the host's read).
The camera moves of After Hours carry into Color of Money's pool table, tied to Ballhaus; both lead to Goodfellas.
“that same thing, that camera is flying across the pool table.”
The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 0:30:24 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them)
The Devil Wears Prada (2006): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Working Girl (1988), which they were tied to as what-if casting: would have played Spacey's part:
Working Girl ⇒ The Devil Wears Prada (the host's read).
Working Girl sprinkled its DNA over later beloved movies, Pretty Woman and Devil Wears Prada chief among them.
“And it's just sprinkling DNA over all these beloved movies over the next 40 years, but those were Pretty Woman and Devil wears Prada were the 2 that I was like, oh, yeah.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Working Girl’ With Bill Simmons, Amanda Dobbins, and Joanna Robinson · 0:13:35 · Joanna Robinson (0.40 sure it was them)
The Karate Kid (1984): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Rocky (1976), which they were tied to as hypothetical casting:
Rocky ⇒ The Karate Kid (the host's read).
Rocky is eight years before Karate Kid, which is called the 2.0 version of the same underdog story but a completely different movie in every respect.
“We're 8 years away from karate kid, which is the next, the 2.0 version of this movie.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:11:32 · Bill Simmons (0.60 sure it was them)
The Lovebirds (2020): 1 line
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lineage (unofficial remake) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
After Hours ⇒ The Lovebirds (the host's read).
The Lovebirds tried to be the After Hours of its day but never works.
“on paper, you were like, yeah, sure, it's been too long since someone tried to make after hours.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 0:35:09 · unknown host (0.35 sure it was them)
The Night Before (2015): 1 line
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lineage (unofficial remake) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
After Hours ⇒ The Night Before (the host's read).
After Hours is the template for modern one-crazy-night New York comedies, none of which reach it.
“It is one of those movies that kind of is like unofficially remade every 5 years.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · After Hours with Alison Sivitz · 0:34:18 · unknown host (0.40 sure it was them)
Uncut Gems (2019): 1 line
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lineage (influence) · through After Hours (1985), which they were tied to as casting what-if (Tom the bartender):
After Hours ⇒ Uncut Gems (the host's read).
Uncut Gems owes a heavy debt to After Hours; Go is also described as owing it royalties.
“could a movie owe more of a debt to after hours than the cut gems.”
The Rewatchables · ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey · 1:31:19 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them)
Working Girl (1990 NBC series): 1 line
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programming (programming) · through Working Girl (1988), which they were tied to as what-if casting: would have played Spacey's part:
Working Girl ⇒ Working Girl (1990 NBC series) (the host's read).
Working Girl became a 1990 NBC series, with Sandra Bullock as Tess.
“Working Girl became an NBC series in 1990”
The Rewatchables · ‘Working Girl’ With Bill Simmons, Amanda Dobbins, and Joanna Robinson · 1:11:10 · Bill Simmons (0.70 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Acting (26) everyone in acting
- actor, Mission: Impossible (The Rewatchables, A CR Month Mailbag!)
- actor, Charlie Wilson's War (The Rewatchables, A CR Month Mailbag!)
- actor, The Talented Mr. Ripley (The Rewatchables, ‘The Truman Show’ With Bill Simmons, Glen Powell, and Chris Ryan)
- actor, Scent of a Woman (The Rewatchables, ‘Working Girl’ With Bill Simmons, Amanda Dobbins, and Joanna Robinson)
- actor (Dusty), Twister (The Rewatchables, ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan)
- actor, Scent of a Woman (The Rewatchables, ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan)
- actor, Boogie Nights (The Rewatchables, ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan)
- actor, The Talented Mr. Ripley (The Rewatchables, ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan)
- actor (villain), Mission: Impossible III (The Rewatchables, ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan)
- actor, The Master (The Rewatchables, ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan)
- actor, Magnolia (The Rewatchables, ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan)
- actor, Along Came Polly (The Rewatchables, ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan)
- actor, hard eight craps scene, Hard Eight (The Rewatchables, ‘A Bronx Tale’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan)
- actor, Before the Devil Knows You're Dead (The Rewatchables, ‘My Cousin Vinny’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Wesley Morris)
- actor, The Master (The Rewatchables, ‘Skyfall’ With Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Amanda Dobbins)
- actor, Twister (The Rewatchables, ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan)
- actor (Art Howe), Moneyball (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- actor, Capote (The Big Picture, The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’)
- actor (villain), Mission: Impossible III (The Big Picture, The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame)
- actor in Hard Eight (the pocket sequence), Hard Eight (Sydney) (The Big Picture, Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster)
- co-star on stage, Death of a Salesman (play) (The Big Picture, The Oscars Schedule Changes, and Andrew Garfield On ‘Under the Silver Lake’ | Interview)
- villain, Mission: Impossible III (Blank Check — Patreon, Edge of Tomorrow)
- cast, Doubt (Blank Check — Patreon, The Shining with Timothy Simons (Ad-Free))
- actor, The Hunger Games (Blank Check — Patreon, Eclipse)
- villain (per speaker), Mission: Impossible III (Blank Check — Patreon, Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation)
- actor (villain), Mission: Impossible III (Blank Check — Patreon, Iron Man 3)
Other (10) everyone in other
- actor Shyamalan approached, scheduling conflict, Lady in the Water (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Lady in the Water with Richard Lawson)
- casting idea for villain investor in Spielberg version, F1 (The Rewatchables, ‘F1’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan)
- what-if casting as Chet, Weird Science (The Rewatchables, ‘Weird Science’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt)
- what-if Marlon, The Truman Show (The Rewatchables, ‘The Truman Show’ With Bill Simmons, Glen Powell, and Chris Ryan)
- suggested recasting (Molina part), Species (The Rewatchables, ‘Species’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan)
- casting what-if (Tom the bartender), After Hours (The Rewatchables, ‘After Hours’ with Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey)
- what-if casting: would have played Spacey's part, Working Girl (The Rewatchables, ‘Working Girl’ With Bill Simmons, Amanda Dobbins, and Joanna Robinson)
- hypothetical casting, Rocky (The Rewatchables, ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan)
- hypothetical recast as Sam, Margin Call (The Rewatchables, ‘Margin Call’ With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman)
- actor, recast wish for the Reverend, Jim Carver, or Paul, The Ice Storm (The Rewatchables, ‘The Ice Storm’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey)
What was said about them, by kind
career (3)
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career (career):
Philip Seymour Hoffman → Mission: Impossible III.
Hoffman elevated any material, playing the Mission: Impossible III villain like he was in The Master and scaring Tom Cruise.
“no matter what the material was, he elevated it.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:25:42 · Van Lathan (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Philip Seymour Hoffman → The Talented Mr. Ripley.
Hoffman's trajectory: Scent of a Woman, then Boogie Nights, then Ripley as the exclamation point that confirmed a real actor.
“And then Ripley was the exclamation point.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:25:59 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Simon McBurney → Philip Seymour Hoffman.
A great actor doing a subtle Cruise impression is likened to Hoffman in MI3 (speaker's target ambiguous, probably McBurney).
“Another example of much like Phelpseymour Hoffman, a great actor doing a very subtle impression of Tom Cruise doing an impression of someone else.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation · 1:53:28 · unknown (0.20 sure it was them)
people (5)
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people (people):
Philip Seymour Hoffman → Mission: Impossible.
PSH is a Special Achievement inductee; his Mission Impossible scene is one Bill keeps rewatching.
“PSH scene.”
The Rewatchables · A CR Month Mailbag! · 1:03:06 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
people (people):
Stanley Tucci → Philip Seymour Hoffman.
Koppelman says that when Hoffman was alive, Tucci and Hoffman were the two actors he most wanted to work with.
“Tucci and Philip Seymour Hoffman were like the 2 people, I didn't get to work with what most want to work with”
The Rewatchables · ‘Margin Call’ With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman · 0:46:28 · Brian Koppelman (0.85 sure it was them) -
people (prior collaboration):
Philip Seymour Hoffman → Capote.
Hoffman starred in Bennett Miller's first narrative feature and won the Best Actor Oscar for it, then brought gravitas to a small Moneyball part.
“Hoffman had had acted in Capote, Bennett Miller's 1st narrative feature film and won an Academy Award for best actor for that role.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:14:58 · Sean Fennessey (0.60 sure it was them) -
people (auteur credit):
Mission: Impossible III → Philip Seymour Hoffman.
MI3 belongs to Hoffman more than to Cruise.
“But it's Philip Seymour Hoffman's movie.”
The Big Picture · The Tom Cruise Hall of Fame · 1:16:52 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
people (people):
Hard Eight (Sydney) → Philip Seymour Hoffman.
Everything magical about Hoffman is in his one-minute scene.
“Everything magical about Filistino Hoffman is in this one minute sequence.”
The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:56:34 · Brian Koppelman (0.85 sure it was them)
unmapped (1)
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unmapped (anti-chemistry):
Philip Seymour Hoffman → Brad Pitt.
Hoffman is not intimidated by Pitt, giving their scenes of open contempt a rare tension.
“film Seymour Hoffman is not afraid of Brad Pitt.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:15:23 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them)
verdict (1)
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verdict (verdict):
Philip Seymour Hoffman → Boogie Nights.
Craig's contrarian take: Hoffman is the same weird, goofy loner supporting guy in Boogie Nights and Twister, though he excepts The Master and Ripley.
“I could see the Boogie Knights Twister. That connection...”
The Rewatchables · ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:52:29 · Craig Horlbeck (0.60 sure it was them)
what-if (7)
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what-if (what-if):
Philip Seymour Hoffman → Weird Science.
Hoffman would have been a great Chet in a recasting.
“What role of Feeble Philip Seymour Hoffman had played clearly, Chet?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Weird Science’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt · 1:27:05 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
The Truman Show → Philip Seymour Hoffman.
Hoffman as Marlon playing it like his Freddie Miles in Ripley.
“What if it was Marlon, but he played it exactly like Freddie and Count Mr. Ripley?”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Truman Show’ With Bill Simmons, Glen Powell, and Chris Ryan · 1:21:50 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Philip Seymour Hoffman → Species.
Hoffman would be perfect for the Alfred Molina part.
“Philip Seymour Hoffman, Raw.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Species’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:17:41 · Bill Simmons (0.30 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Philip Seymour Hoffman → Working Girl.
Hoffman would have played the Spacey part, or Oliver Platt's.
“What role would Philip Seymour Hoffman have played probably Spacey.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Working Girl’ With Bill Simmons, Amanda Dobbins, and Joanna Robinson · 1:44:05 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Paulie → Philip Seymour Hoffman.
Asked what role Philip Seymour Hoffman would have played: Paulie, Gazzo's driver or Jurgens.
“What role would Philip Seymour Hoffman have played?”
The Rewatchables · ‘Rocky’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:35:13 · Bill Simmons (0.50 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Philip Seymour Hoffman → Kevin Spacey.
Someone adds Hoffman as another candidate for Sam.
“Philip Seymour Hoffman, the other guy who obviously could have played Sammy, would have killed it.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Margin Call’ With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman · 1:26:40 · Brian Koppelman (0.60 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Philip Seymour Hoffman → The Ice Storm.
Ryan wishes Hoffman could be in the film as the Reverend, Jim Carver, or Paul.
“if we could have just worked Philip Seymour Hoffman into this movie somewhere, it would have been amazing.”
The Rewatchables · ‘The Ice Storm’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey · 1:05:38 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them)
Fun items about them
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fun, about
Philip Seymour Hoffman:
Hoffman loved the script and the role but had a scheduling conflict.
“Hoffman, despite the fact, get ready to cry, that he, quote, loved the script, liked the role, had scheduling conflict.”
Blank Check with Griffin & David · Lady in the Water with Richard Lawson · 1:01:57 · Griffin Newman (0.70 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Philip Seymour Hoffman:
In an early lawn-chair scene Hoffman lifts his leg laughing and a split second of exposure was edited from later DVD and VHS releases.
“you can see his genitals for a split 2nd that they had to edit out of future DH DVD and VHS releases.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:08:20 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Philip Seymour Hoffman:
His Oklahoma Sooners hat and Baja are picked as the movie memorabilia; Chris says over the years his Dusty performance is the most fascinating thing about the film.
“Philip Seymour Hoffman's Oklahoma sooner's hat.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:48:16 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Philip Seymour Hoffman:
Played Art Howe, who also managed the Mets and sucked; a nothing part on the page that he gave gravitas.
“Philip Seymour Hoffman, who plays Art Howe, who also managed the Mets, by the way, and he sucked.”
The Big Picture · The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 14 - ‘Moneyball’ · 0:14:49 · Sean Fennessey (0.55 sure it was them) -
fun, about
Philip Seymour Hoffman:
Brian tried to get Hoffman into a movie on an airplane, but he did not want to do a gangster film.
“He wouldn't do it before he was super famous.”
The Big Picture · Top Five Gen X Director Debuts, the Fate of ‘Black Widow,’ and a Potential Oscars Disaster · 0:56:20 · Brian Koppelman (0.80 sure it was them)