Loves movie-star, over-the-top, kinetic filmmaking (JFK, The Verdict, A Few Good Men) and old-school craft; favors Paul Newman. Willing to admire films he doesn't believe in. Sucker for big speeches and taste-making directors.
Stances
Courtroom drama must be in the courtroom: no legal thrillers, no 12 Angry Men
JFK is a masterpiece despite being hogwash
Winner of the A Few Good Men scene is Tom Cruise
Humor: Mock-legalistic framing and affectionate hyperbole.
Loves the theatrical culture of places like Alamo Drafthouse, pedigreed auteurs (Fincher, Nolan, the Coens), and deep film-history binges. Can't stand corporate pettiness dressed as principle, and thinks The King's Speech beating The Social Network should die in a fire. A sucker for trivia glory and big awards-season structure (wants 75 awards).
Stances
Theaters will survive as a boutique business but wide-scale moviegoing will not last five years
Netflix's lead of finished movies makes it well positioned for the Oscars
Windowing will change and studios will test higher VOD price points
Humor: Mock-grandiose and self-aware, with bits like hosting a five-day awards festival and running out of frame during trivia.
In their words
“There should be 75 awards.” (0:50:42)
“I'm just trying to have a cinematic experience at all times.” (1:06:36)
Loves big, noisy, auteur and genre-bending work: The Lighthouse, Midsommar's ending, Alita and 6 Underground action, Gemini Man, Triple Frontier. Wants more categories and a nine-hour ceremony; adores Paul Walter Hauser and Uncut Gems. Can't stand news-anchor cameos in fiction and Oscar-bait homogeneity.
Stances
Wants more Oscar categories, not fewer
Spider-Man's post-credits scene counts as an ending
Defends Midsommar and The Lighthouse
Wants a casting Oscar and a best first feature
Humor: Cheerfully obsessive and self-mocking about his hobby-horse enthusiasms (the minute-by-minute Lighthouse podcast), with mock-legalistic rule enforcement.
In their words
“I will be starting one of those for the lighthouse.” (0:52:43)
“I personally would like there to be a 9 hours Oscar ceremony.” (0:12:22)
“Have you ever been sewn inside of a bear skin and lit on fire in a giant triangle.” (0:45:39)
Loves Parasite, Marriage Story, Little Women, Uncut Gems and champions Toy Story 4. Prickly toward Joker-style noisy awards bait, wants more fun and weirdness at the Oscars. Sucker for Hark segments and sporting analogies.
Stances
Academy has a taste gap against pop culture and women's stories
He loves The Cabin in the Woods, It Follows and The Witch and likes discussion-making horror like Get Out, but he distrusts elevated-horror branding. He wants to be physically dominated by a horror film, and says he is dead inside and cynical, so he is impressed when a film makes him feel something.
Stances
Get Out is the best horror film of the decade
Elevated horror is an ugly phrase
Horror needs something supernatural or extraordinarily visceral to qualify
Wingard is creative but ultimately disappointing
Humor: Deadpan needler of his guest who takes bits to their end, like the Tim Apple joke.
In their words
“I tend to think there has to be something either supernatural or extraordinarily visceral about the movie to qualify.” (0:10:18)
“I think I'm pretty dead inside and very cynical.” (0:11:46)
Loves big, event-level filmmaking and prizes one great movie over a great season of TV; he is a champion of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and of Tarantino and Anderson. Likes working through discourse and being a guide who tells friends what to see or skip. Has a soft spot for old-fashioned Hollywood comedy and for Mike Nichols.
Stances
One great movie beats prestige TV
Disney's dominance is overwhelming but not to be underestimated (Cameron)
Streaming may hollow out comedies made without theatrical money
Was surprised and moved by Luce
Humor: Dry deadpan teasing of co-hosts with running bits and impressions, such as PTA at D23.
In their words
“I still would always, always, always rather have one great movie than an experience like that.” (0:52:42)
“And that's why this is the big picture and not the watch.” (0:52:43)
Loves long things, big-tent Oscar movies (Ford v Ferrari, Once Upon a Time) and the business and career-arc angle of franchises. Skeptical of Tom Hooper and unclear streaming strategies; cares about artists controlling their image. As interviewer he probes how Garfield picks directors.
Stances
Homecoming is long, not boring, and great because of Beyonce the performer
Guava Island lacks a strategic purpose and sits outside Glover's mission
Under the Silver Lake has been slightly mischaracterized in the press
Humor: Self-deprecating wonk who plays his own wounded vanity for laughs and teases Amanda with Star Wars archetypes.
In their words
“I'm a big fan of long things.” (0:05:20)
“I am confused about what the strategic purpose of something like that is.” (0:11:33)
“This is upsetting how you have targeted my feelings.” (1:07:11)
Fennessey likes fun, audience-pleasing superhero movies that do something different and cares about tone and the business of the DCEU. He is curious about process, and is a fan of the filmmakers he interviews. He enjoyed Shazam!, though he found the final fight less effective.
Stances
DC's turn from interconnection to standalone movies is interesting and lower-risk
Shazam!'s first half works better than its punch-up ending
Wants to know how directors communicate what is in their heads
Humor: Dry and teasing, as in his mock-eager 'Can't wait for the trench.'
In their words
“I thought Shazam was a very fun and entertaining movie” (0:01:41)
“I don't think that part was as effective.” (0:05:55)
Loves origin-story craft done efficiently, Ben Mendelsohn, indie directors like Boden and Fleck, and Annette Bening. Bothered by surface-level 90s nostalgia, a rickety Marvel mythology load, and a character too powerful for stakes. Sucker for comic lore and for character actors.
Stances
Captain Marvel is rickety, overstuffed, and does too many jobs
Boden and Fleck taking a big-studio job is understandable, not a sellout
Captain Marvel is too powerful to build tension around
Wonder Woman did the origin story better
Humor: Dry teasing of Amanda's comic-book blind spots and deadpan asides about names like Yon-Rogg.
In their words
“I can't believe Jan Rag is the name of a character that I'm talking about on a podcast.” (0:07:03)
“he is one of my favorite living people.” (0:35:58)
“it's funny to see, you know, the McDonald's Happy Meal version of those movies in a lot of ways.” (0:25:50)
Defends Roma as a masterpiece worth reclaiming, loves Spider-Verse (the self-declared devotee), and takes Avengers: Infinity War seriously. Likes craft people with a through-line (Libatique, Corwin). Cannot stand the Oscars' song performances and the Green Book result.
Stances
Green Book winning is a farce
Bohemian Rhapsody should not be taken as great cinema
Spider-Verse beats Sense and Sensibility
Humor: Deadpan and bit-driven, with running gags like the Close Zone and the jar of cold fusion.
In their words
“I am putting my money down right now that says Spider-Verse better than Sense and Sensibility.” (1:00:25)
“green book winning best picture is a farce.” (0:22:56)
Loves GLOW and big, sincere genre movies, and is a hardcore former WWE kid who still lights up at Beyond the Mat. Treats wrestling movies as an industry phenomenon worth tracking. Is a sucker for lists and double features.
Stances
Fighting with My Family signals a more refined era of movies and wrestling
Rocky is the template for sports films
Wants guests' favorite lists (loves the 500-movie idea)
Humor: Dry, quick teasing, such as his joke about Michael B. Jordan in a Junkyard Dog biopic and Die Hard 8 or a Red Desert remake.
In their words
“I'm a huge fan of that show.” (0:03:35)
“I remember being a such such a hardcore WWE fan when that came out” (0:15:27)
“This is exactly my sort of thing.” (0:51:34)
“imagine Michael B. Jordan signing up for, you know, the junkyard dog biopic right now.” (0:09:47)
Loves a clear narrative and critics' consensus picks; Roma, Beale Street and Spider-Verse are his side. Cannot stand the HFPA and films that claim truth while drawing criticism. Sucker for Queen songs and Mahershala Ali.
Stances
Green Book and Bohemian Rhapsody are not the best of the year
Globes versus critics is a problem for Roma and Star
Academy is lost without a plan
Humor: Mock-outrage escalation and self-aware yelling about a meaningless award show.
In their words
“I don't hate green book.” (0:10:42)
“We have to be able as a society and also as people who freaking vote on awards” (0:14:47)
Loves films that are sincere, meta and inventive, and praises vocal performance and rap on a soundtrack. Quick to dismiss the generic superhero origin slog and the lowered bar of Aquaman. A sucker for comic-book feel and a good casting parlor game.
Stances
Spider-Verse is extraordinary and unlike any animated movie
Origin stories are overdone, but the film subverts the trope
Rooting for it to win best animated feature
Having several Spider-Man continuities is a lot for a weekly film writer
Humor: Dry, self-deprecating, acting the aging man and the adult who tucks in his shirt.
In their words
“It's absolutely fantastic.” (0:01:29)
“I now find myself rooting for it for this strange silly award.” (0:29:24)
Loves Oscar-season contenders and deep conversations with filmmakers; says he just really loved Eighth Grade. Little else is stated in this trailer.
Stances
The Big Picture is moving out of the channel 33 feed into its own feed
Will cover more Oscar contenders and filmmaker interviews
Humor: Brief and promotional; no real jokes in the trailer.
In their words
“We're going to keep bringing you more banter about this year's Oscar contenders and more deep conversations with the filmmakers behind them” (0:00:17)
Loves the lean, tightly-told Spielberg entertainments like Jurassic Park and Raiders, and rates Close Encounters and Schindler's List highly. Is lukewarm on E.T. and Munich and a skeptic of the long-form Spielberg-as-prestige push. A sucker for Tom Cruise talk and Day-Lewis.
Stances
Jaws is the perfect movie
Munich is overrated
E.T. is fine but not a favorite
Close Encounters deserved a higher spot than he gave it
Humor: Dry, needling, and self-aware about the show's habits (Tom Cruise riffs, 'safe space').
In their words
“The more I look at my list, the more boring it feels to me.” (0:18:42)
“Will there ever be a podcast where you and I don't talk about what Tom Cruise should do next?” (1:02:21)
Admires the craft of this film and wants to know how directors build rhythm and performance. Interested in awards, box office and streaming. Ends interviews with a last-great-thing question.
Stances
Curious about how a chamber piece becomes propulsive
Presses on awards and box office
Humor: Dry and light; teases with a superhero question and the Friday sing-along.
In their words
“So no superhero movies coming from you anytime soon?” (0:22:54)
“I will start applying the Friday sing-along.” (0:19:03)
Loves the MCU best and thinks it is the most important film business now. Frames everything in industry terms: genre cycles, infrastructure, risk. Skeptical of DC's lack of voice and Snyder.
Stances
Superhero movies are the only movies of consequence in studios
Marvel's strength is infrastructure and filmmaker choice
Genres are most vulnerable when they seem strongest
Humor: Dry host asides and self-deprecation, like claiming empathy for Scott Summers.
In their words
“what matters is the infrastructure.” (0:55:28)
“are never more vulnerable than when they seem strongest.” (0:55:31)
Loves uncomfortable, unusual comedy and says he really loved Lemon. Draws lines from film to TV (Curb, Atlanta) and reaches for Twin Peaks as a tonal comparison. Likes ending interviews on what people are watching.
Stances
Lemon is awkward, fascinating and deeply unusual
Awkward comedy has evolved from Curb
Humor: Dry, teasing; jabs at the guests and himself.
Interested in directors' careers and the industry's shape; pushes on obsession, failure and reception. Notes how many filmmakers now pitch TV. Knows his jungle-film canon.
Stances
Frames Gray as a great American filmmaker deserving more notice
Curious how the Amazon release and streaming change moviegoing
Humor: Dry and light; mostly a straight interviewer.
In their words
“Yeah, Bird of Dream, sure.” (0:07:04)
“You have resisted the urge to make a TV project.” (0:30:24)
“I'm curious that you've partnered with Amazon to release the movie.” (0:26:31)
Calls himself one of America's preeminent Mank defenders and watched it four times in the 2020 Oscar season. Loves Citizen Kane, Paramount in the 70s, and the studio-hand-as-auteur idea. Dislikes Mank-mid takes that he thinks are phony and a Welles-defense posture he calls bullying.
Stances
Mank is a summation of Fincher's worldview and his father's influence
Welles defenders are bullying, not bullied
The Offer is compellingly bad but he finished all ten episodes
Netflix should not be Fincher's only home
Humor: Dry film-critic asides and confessions of excess, like watching Saw X at ten in the morning.
In their words
“I watched it 4 times in the Oscar season of 2020 to 2021.” (0:17:23)
“I don't do drugs.” (0:14:39)
“I not only watched it but I completed it.” (1:06:08)
Their shows' recurring bits
Running bits, not opinions; a critic read aloud is cited, not present.
The Big Picture
Drafts: Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument.
Hall of Fame: A star's or director's best, ranked and argued.
Countdowns: Ranked lists, top five or top ten.
The Rewatchables
Apex Mountain: The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits.
Who Won the Movie: The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off.
The Ebert review: Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show.
Casting what-ifs: Who was almost cast, or who should have been.
Most rewatchable scene: The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels.
Aged best / aged worst: What holds up and what does not.
Picking Nits: The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits.
Double feature: The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick.
Their claims
Showing 1,001–1,100 of 1,576 claims.
industry (industry):
Nomadland → Producers Guild Awards.
The PGAs have predicted most recent Best Picture winners, pointing to a Nomadland sweep.
“the PGAs have predicted 15 of the past 20 best picture winners”
programming (programming):
Errol Morris → Citizen Kane.
The Academy hired Errol Morris for short documentaries, one of which produced Donald Trump misreading Citizen Kane.
“he completely misreads Citizen Kane and misunderstands it and then kind of sort of predicts his own future in some respects”
lineage (lineage):
Sex, Lies, and Videotape → Brick.
Sex, Lies, and Videotape came out 17 or 18 years before Brick and felt like a different generation.
contrast (contrast):
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang → Ex Machina.
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is Shane Black's thing, while Garland came from nowhere and arrived fully formed.
“Which is whereas whereas Kiss, Kiss, K Bang, Bang, is Shane Black's thing.”
people (people):
Being John Malkovich → Charlie Kaufman.
Sean sees Jonze and Kaufman as two artists who needed each other; Jonze made Kaufman's abstract ideas literal.
“Spike really was able to visualize and literalize a lot of Charlie's ideas, which are so abstract”
lineage (lineage):
Hard Eight (Sydney) → Jonathan Demme.
The into-camera close-ups in the diner are Demme-like; it is like Scorsese and Demme together.
“It's like if Scorsese and Demi made something together in a lot of ways.”
career (career):
Hard Eight (Sydney) → Boogie Nights.
Seeing Hard Eight after Boogie Nights was like a first album that got bigger distribution once the second took off.
“It was a little bit of a like 1st album, 2nd album thing”
contrast (contrast):
Hard Eight (Sydney) → Boogie Nights.
Boogie Nights is about being young, Hard Eight about getting older, so it was the harder first film to see.
“Boogie Nights is about being young and heart 8 is about getting older”
verdict (verdict):
Inglourious Basterds → Pulp Fiction.
One host puts Basterds first and Pulp Fiction second among Tarantino's films, behind both Reservoir Dogs.
“I feel like Bastards is number one, pretty clearly, and Pulp Pickers is number 2 pretty clearly.”
theme (theme):
Tiger → Earl Woods.
The first half frames Earl as a Dr. Frankenstein making Tiger into a monster of power and emotional danger.
“to show Earl Woods, his father, as the kind of Dr. Frankenstein, and making Tiger Woods into this kind of Frankenstein monster, for better and for worse”
contrast (contrast):
Tiger → The Last Dance.
Unlike The Last Dance, where Jordan and his team were producers with some control, Tiger is unauthorized and Woods does not sit for it.
“this is interesting, especially as a contrast of the last dance, which was, of course, the last big super sports documentary of recent times that wasn't authorized piece in which Michael Jordan and his compatriots were on board his producers.”
lineage (lineage):
Tiger → O.J.: Made in America.
Audiences are conditioned by Made in America and The Last Dance to expect soup-to-nuts sports documentaries that are really about larger ideas.
“we have become conditioned, in part because of OJ made in America, in part because of the last dance, to get this soup to nuts kind of story.”
theme (theme):
The Last Dance → O.J.: Made in America.
Both look bigger than their nominal subject: The Last Dance spans many years of Bulls teams, Made in America covers race in America over 60 years.
“O.J. Made in America is not just a story about O.J. Simpson and Nicole Brown Simpson and that murder.”
lineage (lineage):
Pretend It's a City → Public Speaking.
Scorsese's 2010 HBO Lebowitz documentary was far more formalist than the loose Netflix series.
“There was a Martin Scorsese documentary about Fran Leboitz in 2010 called public speaking that aired on HBO.”
people (people):
Martin Scorsese → Fran Lebowitz.
Scorsese's affection for his friend Lebowitz mirrors the speaker's own urge to platform brilliant friends like Chris Ryan.
“I can feel and Scorsese, the same urges with Fran Leboitz, where he's just like, my friend is so cool and funny.”
industry (industry):
Malcolm & Marie → 1917.
Like 1917 last year, Malcolm & Marie is a late-entrant Oscar movie that is suddenly competing everywhere with a ready-made narrative.
“This is definitely what 1917 was to the Oscar race last year, the kind of late entrant that's like, oh, okay, this is competing in every category and is going to be really noisy”
people (people):
Malcolm & Marie → Zendaya.
The speaker finds undoubtedly amazing performances from Washington and Zendaya in an overwritten but beautiful film.
“undoubtedly amazing performances from Washington and Zendaya.”
“I think that Malcolm and Marie and Jews and the Black Messiah are probably the 2 big, this kind of showed up late to the party and are going to change the constitution of the nominations”
what-if (what-if):
The Godfather Part II → Harry and Tonto.
Pacino beating Art Carney at the 1975 Oscars could have broken the habit of giving great actors their Oscars two decades late.
“I think we could have just changed the arc of history, if we had given Pacino best actor for Godfather 2 in 1975 instead of Art Carney for Harry and Tonto.”
career (career):
Al Pacino → The Godfather Part II.
Speculating how an early Oscar might have altered Pacino's wild 1980s and later money-driven career.
“I just know that his performance in the Godfather Part 2 is arguably the greatest performance in the history of movies.”
craft (craft):
Full Metal Jacket → Stanley Kubrick.
The boot-camp first hour is cited as one of the great first halves of any movie; the Vietnam second half is very good with Kubrick hallmarks.
“that 1st hour is funny, terrifying, emotionally wrenching.”
lineage (lineage):
Preston Sturges → Nora Ephron.
Sturges's writer-first absurdist romantic comedy style influenced Ephron, James Brooks and Albert Brooks.
“obviously, like the Nora Efron of the world were really influenced by Sturgis movies, um, as were like James Brooks and, you know, the people like Albert Brooks”
contrast (contrast):
Preston Sturges → Howard Hawks.
Sturges lacks the restored, boxed-set iconography that Hitchcock, Ford, Kurosawa and Fellini enjoy.
“the way that, like, Hitchcock and John Ford and Akira Kurosawa, like, they're not slipping through the cracks.”
contrast (contrast):
Casablanca → Sullivan's Travels.
Casablanca still means something to the American moviegoer, while a Preston Sturges carousel on HBO Max would mean nothing to most.
“is there a carousel on HBO Max that says the Preston Sturgis collection? And does that mean anything to anyone?”
career (career):
Burt Lancaster → Sweet Smell of Success.
Lancaster dared to play hated characters and pursue strange films, especially Sweet Smell of Success.
“his willingness to be hated as a character in movies, especially sweet smell of success, but many of his movies.”
career (career):
Toshiro Mifune → Sanjuro.
Sanjuro is the second Sanjuro-character film after Yojimbo, and Mifune is the most fun person to watch on screen.
“I just rewatched Sunjuro, which is the 2nd movie after Yojimbo about the Sunjuro character, and he is just a lightning bolt.”
programming (programming):
Holiday → Bringing Up Baby.
Holiday was long out of circulation and is now on the Criterion Channel, likely prompting the question.
“a lot of people have been watching holiday because that had been out of circulation and is now on the criterion collection”
career (career):
Penny Serenade → None but the Lonely Heart.
Scorsese claims None but the Lonely Heart was Grant's only acting nomination, but he was also nominated for Penny Serenade, both when Grant was trying to break the persona.
“Carrie Grant has 2 Academy Award nominations in his career. For 2 movies that very few people have seen that are our age, none but the lonely heart and penny serenade.”
industry (industry):
Wonder Woman 1984 → Trolls World Tour.
Studios should release straight to VOD and live with unknown numbers; the likely VOD hits are Trolls World Tour, Tenet and The Croods 2.
“Trolls World Tour and Tenet and the Crudes 2 and a handful of other movies that if you just pull up, you know, iTunes or Amazon Prime right now, you'll see are dominating the charts.”
craft (craft):
Eyes Wide Shut → Stanley Kubrick.
The set would mean a long shoot with a great filmmaker, two stars in an actual marriage and untold stories.
“obviously you've got one of the greatest filmmakers of all time, 2 of our favorite stars in the midst of a marriage and a film about the potential dissolution of a marriage”
career (career):
Prisoner of the Ghostland → Sion Sono.
Sono, whose Why Don't You Play in Hell? and Tokyo Tribe are wild, teams with Nicolas Cage on an action movie.
“Prisoner of the Ghostland, which is a Sian Sono team up with Nicholas Cage.”
lineage (lineage):
Tiger → The Last Dance.
The interviewer says Tiger sits in league with Made in America and The Last Dance as sprawling psychological athlete profiles.
“We've seen now with OJ Made in America and the last dance, these kind of sprawling, complex psychological profiles, really, of these historic athletes.”
craft (craft):
Aaron Sorkin → David Fincher.
Sorkin excels when meeting a dark-hearted collaborator such as Fincher.
“I think that when he meets very darkhearted figures, either in the characters he's creating or in his counterparts creatively, like David Fincher, that's when he excels.”
contrast (contrast):
The Social Network → Zodiac.
Social Network was one host's top Fincher film; the Fincher podcast chose Zodiac as the purest Fincher.
craft (craft):
The Social Network → David Fincher.
Sorkin excels when paired with a dark-hearted counterpart like Fincher; the sum is greater than the parts.
“the magic in this is what happens when you put together like a just fantastic.”
programming (programming):
A Few Good Men → Network.
It is in the conversation for most rewatched movie of a lifetime, next to Network, Oz, Godfather, Goodfellas and Pulp Fiction.
contrast (contrast):
A Few Good Men → The Caine Mutiny.
It is a conventional military courtroom drama like The Caine Mutiny, yet has special energy due to Sorkin.
“some very good movies like the King Mutiny, some very mediocre movies like Rules of Engagement.”
theme (theme):
The Trial of the Chicago 7 → A Few Good Men.
Both are courtroom dramas of principled argument; Cruise's charisma is key and Chicago 7 needs scene-chewers too.
“You have to have people that want to gnaw on the scenery, that want to yell, that want to be in the center of the frame.”
lineage (lineage):
The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Medium Cool.
The Chicago trial and DNC events were told before in Haskell Wexler's part-documentary Medium Cool.
“Medium cool, Haskell Wexler's part documentary, part narrative feature in 1969 kind of reflects on the events at the DNC that year.”
lineage (lineage):
The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Chicago 10.
The trial was also rendered in Brett Morgen's animated documentary Chicago 10, the HBO movie and Bananas.
“You can see it in a Brett Morgan animated documentary called Chicago 10.”
programming (programming):
The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Moonlight.
Moonlight is the model of a film that was right for its moment, against which Chicago 7's timeliness is weighed.
“I always felt like Moonlight was a movie for its time in a very sentimental way”
contrast (contrast):
The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Oliver Stone.
Chicago 7 raises the question of whether entertainment can justify itself on politics, as with Stone's films.
“as I said before about Oliver Stone and all of his other things, I think there's an interesting question here, like, is this movie entertaining enough to justify itself”
contrast (contrast):
The Trial of the Chicago 7 → MC5.
The film's mix of faux-60s rock guitar and syrupy film score is faulted; MC5 is what the moment really sounded like and what a radical protester listened to.
“he has this like simulacra, like 60s rock and roll score where there's like electric tar combined with this very syrupy film music score.”
verdict (verdict):
The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Aaron Sorkin.
Good and entertaining, worth watching, but politically small and the filmmaking not sharp enough.
programming (programming):
The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Mank.
Chicago 7 is a big fat fastball for the Oscars alongside Mank, Nomadland and Hillbilly Elegy.
“this is a big fat, fastball right down the middle.”
industry (industry):
Soul → Disney.
Soul skipping theaters for free Disney+ release shows Disney+ is aimed at kids and families and keeps subscribers from churning.
“it's a reason to not let your subscription lapse”
fun, about
Napoleon (unmade Kubrick film):
The book 'Stanley Kubrick's Napoleon' is Sean's heaviest book, with phone-book pages holding thousands of pages of documents.
“The book is so big that the pages are almost like telephone book pages.”
fun, about
Tenet:
Sean and Amanda drove about 130 miles round trip to a San Diego drive-in to see Tenet in a heat wave, parked side by side. Amanda left claiming she understood the whole film; they will try to explain it on the pod next week.
“The movie ended and she said, I get it. I know everything that happened.”
fun, about
Chadwick Boseman:
Sean rewatched Black Panther the night before, saying it lived up to unprecedented anticipation, which never happens in mainstream culture.
fun, about
Mulan:
Controversy: filmed in Xinjiang, where Muslims are held in mass internment camps; lead Yifei Liu's Hong Kong police tweet triggered #BoycottMulan.
“was filmed in uh, Jinjiang, the region in China, where uh, Muslims have been detained in mass internment camps.”
fun, about
Cruella:
Sean reads the logline: a 1970s London fashion designer obsessed with dogskins, especially Dalmatians; Amanda and Jason react with horror.
“young fashion designer Cruella DeVille becomes obsessed with dogs skins, especially Dalmatians, until she eventually becomes a ruthless and terrifying legend.”
fun, about
The Little Mermaid (upcoming live action remake):
Casting rundown: Halle Bailey as Ariel, Melissa McCarthy as Ursula, Javier Bardem as King Triton, plus voices Daveed Diggs, Awkwafina and Jacob Tremblay; King Triton is described as xenophobic toward humans.
“Ariel's overprotective father and the king of Atlantica, who is xenophobic towards humans.”
fun, about
Trolls World Tour:
Parents reportedly rented the 48-hour 19.99 title three weekends running; the hosts bless parents and hope kids learned respect for country as well as rock and pop.
“I had people anecdotally tell me that they rented the movie 3 weekends in a row.”
fun, about
The Great Moment:
Host watched Preston Sturges's late biopic about William Morton, inventor of ether, during a pandemic film-history bender.
“I watched Preston Sturgis's The Great Moment last night about William Morton, the inventor of ether, who revolutionized dentistry.”
fun, about
David Fincher:
Netflix is betting on a black-and-white, no-movie-star historical drama because studios have not funded Fincher in 7 or 8 years.
“studios haven't been giving David Fincher money to make movies for the last 7 or 8 years for a reason.”
fun, about
Netflix and the Egyptian Theatre:
Netflix bought the Egyptian and was refurbishing the Paris Theater; a host reads the moves as overtures to older Academy members.
“those overtures were made to ingratiate themselves to the older members of the academy”
fun, about
Alamo Drafthouse:
A six-hour evening: movie, whiskey cocktail, fries, rent a video from the same filmmaker at their video store, beer and trivia, which AMC does not offer.
“And that is a 6 hour evening in a movie palace that AMC is not offering.”
fun, about
Academy Awards:
From 24 awards to 23 by merging sound; one host wants 75 awards and a five-day festival; another wants best first feature and best breakthrough.
“There should be 75 awards. This should be a 5 day festival of handing out awards.”
fun, about
Stunt Oscar:
A host zags on the stunt category: everyone demands it without knowing why, while still wanting to honor stunt work with an honorary award; joke pitch: Zoom Stunt Oscars with DVDs held up.
“Everybody needs to just settle down with pretending that they really like stunts in movies.”
fun, about
Twilight Zone: The Movie:
An episode of the Shudder series Cursed covers the 1982 set death of Vic Morrow and two children in a helicopter stunt; Landis was acquitted.
“A helicopter crashed during a stunt and Vic Morrow, Jennifer Jason Lee's father, was killed along with 2 children during the making of this movie”
fun, about
Incredible Hulk / Iron Man:
Trivia win: the two characters in the first two MCU films, Hulk and Iron Man, earned the team points after a host sprinted out of frame.
“It's the Incredible Hulk and Iron Man, you fools.”
fun, about
Postponed films:
Sean tracks 18 postponed undated films that could drop when theaters reopen, listing New Mutants, Promising Young Woman, Bad Trip, The High Note, Run, Military Wives, Greyhound and Malignant.
“there have been 18 movies that have been postponed and are undated at the moment.”
fun, about
Alita: Battle Angel:
Sean watches strangers watch Alita on planes and tracks the actors he recognizes; the 15-minute motorball fight keeps breaking for exposition and restarting.
“I watched people watch it on the plane and then at some point I just took kept track of like the actors I could recognize.”
fun, about
John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum:
The dog-fight sequence took six months to design and train, and director Chad Stahelski told this podcast it was the hardest thing he had done. Wins best action sequence.
“I took 6 months to design and train the dogs to execute this fight.”
fun, about
Spider-Man: Far From Home:
Sean argues the post-credits scene (J.K. Simmons outing Peter Parker on a Times Square screen) is the best ending of 2019 because the theater erupted; Amanda calls it a teaser, not an ending.
“That was the loudest vocal reaction I had heard to a movie in 2019.”
fun, about
Midsommar:
Sean defends the ending by asking whether anyone has been sewn inside a bear skin and lit on fire in a giant triangle; Midsommar also wins best meme inspiration and Halloween costumes.
“Have you ever been sewn inside of a bear skin and lit on fire in a giant triangle.”
fun, about
The Lighthouse:
Sean is so devoted he'll launch a minute-by-minute Lighthouse podcast alone in a lighthouse; Amanda calls him an A24-merch-bro Reddit nerd and says Eggers shows his work too much.
“what you are is a Reddit nerd, bro, and you hate this. I believe what I said was A24 merch, bro.”
fun, about
Richard Jewell:
Paul Walter Hauser was a guest and recited A Few Good Men past the code red, continuing through the officer on deck; Sean says he can do it too.
“He started doing like this, the extended a few good men recitation, like we had done, the normal code red stuff, and then he just kept going”
fun, about
Richard Jewell:
Hauser's home scene with Kathy Bates sells the age of the relationship with comfort alone, and the film cooks whenever Jewell, Rockwell and Bates share a room.
“these 3 people are amazingly comfortable with each other.”
fun, about
Blair Witch (The Woods):
Sean says its last 30 minutes are the most scared he has ever been in a theater, though he doesn't think the film is good.
“the last 30 minutes of Blair Witch is the most scared I think I may have ever been in a movie theater”
fun, about
Soul / Inside Out:
Sean can only remember Inside Out as a drawing and confuses its Sadness creature with Tina Fey's Soul; Amanda saw it in a theater.
“No, I saw that in a movie theater. Really? Yeah, I just couldn't remember anything about it because it's a drawing.”
fun, about
Paul Thomas Anderson / Once Upon a Time in Hollywood:
Sean riffs on the DGA podcast, where PTA gushed about Brad Pitt, and impersonates him on the Moana bit.
“Because Paul Thomas Anderson is being like, Quentin, fucking Brad. In this movie.”
fun, about
Fleabag / Succession vs Once Upon a Time in Hollywood:
Sean says that's why the show is The Big Picture and not The Watch: he would take one great movie over Fleabag.
“And that's why this is the big picture and not the watch.”
fun, about
Captain Marvel:
The 90s signaling: a never-worn Guns N' Roses T-shirt, and Carol stealing a Nine Inch Nails shirt off a mannequin as a metaphor for the film.
“steals a 9 inch nails t-shirt and a leather jacket off of a mannequin outside of a boutique.”
fun, about
Captain Marvel:
The big fight scene is set to No Doubt's Just a Girl while she punches Jude Law, which Sean finds cute and clever but ham-handed.
“certainly the chorus of that song makes it fit when she's punching Jude Law on the face repeatedly.”
fun, about
The Ringer office:
A Ringer Slack prompt for the most 90s song stopped work for an hour; Dan Devine said Smells Like Teen Spirit immediately.
“Dan Devine gave immediately, which was smells like teen spirit.”
fun, about
Guardians of the Galaxy:
Amanda knows Guardians only as the raccoon voiced by Bradley Cooper, and Sean suggests she go by Amanda the Accuser.
“perhaps you should go by Amanda the accuser in future podcasts.”
fun, about
Captain Marvel:
Opening weekend benchmark: less than $150 million would be called a disappointment, even though few can open a movie on name alone.
“less than $150000000 in the opening weekend would be considered a relative disappointment for a Marvel movie like this”
fun, about
Kingdom Come:
Sean explains the Alex Ross series, set 50 or 60 years later with an older Batman in a wheelchair and gray-streaked Wonder Woman, calling it very melodramatic.