Marvel Studios

Made films the shows talk about.

Counted as studio. The films the hosts said they were behind, which the two lists below run through too: Iron Man (2008); The Incredible Hulk (2008); Iron Man 2 (2010); Thor (2011); Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014); Guardians of the Galaxy (2014).

Draws on

What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.

Stan Lee: 2 lines

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man (2008), which they were behind as studio: Stan Lee ⇒ Iron Man (the maker said so: Stan Lee interviews). The film follows the first comic issue's origin; Lee wanted to make an industrialist war profiteer compelling to hippie kids.
    “here's like an industrialist, war profiteer, Laos, and make him like compelling to these, like, hippie kids.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:27:36 · unknown (probably David) (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they were behind as studio: Stan Lee ⇒ Thor (the host's read). The Donald Blake identity came from Stan Lee's 60s devotion to the secret-identity trope; the movie keeps it only as a fake ID gag.
    “in the 60s, Stanley was a little slavishly devoted to like the classic superhero comic trope, so you needed a secret identity”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:08 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Three Days of the Condor (1975): 2 lines

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), which they were behind as studio: Three Days of the Condor ⇒ Captain America: The Winter Soldier (the maker said so). The filmmakers say outright they were making a Condor movie.
    “But they're like, we're like, we're making a 3 days of the Condor movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:27:10 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), which they were behind as studio: Three Days of the Condor ⇒ Captain America: The Winter Soldier (the host's read). The Russos and Marcus/McFeely were told they could make a Three Days of the Condor style political thriller inside the MCU, provided Feige got his Helicarrier back.
    “You want to do a 3 day of the Condor movie?”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:19:33 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Captain America: The First Avenger (2011): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), which they were behind as studio: Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Captain America: The Winter Soldier (the host's read). Zola surviving and joining the other side is the seed for Winter Soldier.
    “Because you need Zola to join the other side.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:34:27 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Ed Brubaker: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), which they were behind as studio: Ed Brubaker ⇒ Captain America: The Winter Soldier (the host's read). The film adapts the Brubaker Winter Soldier comic arc.
    “They wanted to take the Ed Brubaker Winter Soldier Arc, which is one of the most famous Captain America Arcs.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:14:25 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)

Hancock (2008): 1 line

  1. industry (industry) · through Iron Man 2 (2010), which they were behind as studio: Hancock ⇒ Iron Man 2 (the host's read). The Demon in a Bottle alcoholism arc was dodged partly because Hancock had already done a drinking superhero two months after the first Iron Man.
    “Because Hancock comes out. 2 months after the 1st Iron Man.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:12:58 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Hulk (2003): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The Incredible Hulk (2008), which they were behind as producer, creative control: Hulk ⇒ The Incredible Hulk (the host's read). Despite the reboot claim, the same three relationships (Hulk, Betty, Thunderbolt Ross) carry through, as does the South America opening.
    “And those 3 relationships feel very much on a continuity with everything that happens in English film.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:06:37 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)

J. Michael Straczynski: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they were behind as studio: J. Michael Straczynski ⇒ Thor (the host's read). The film borrows heavily from Straczynski's celebrated Thor run, including Thor spending time in the Midwest.
    “the celebrated Thor arc was J. Michael Stratinsky, which is this is borrowing from heavily.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:28 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)

Masters of the Universe (1987): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they were behind as studio: Masters of the Universe ⇒ Thor (the host's read). Thor is described as essentially a remake of the live-action Masters of the Universe.
    “It's mostly just a remake of the live action masters of the universe movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:03:54 · Griffin Newman (0.65 sure it was them)

RoboCop (2014): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man (2008), which they were behind as studio: RoboCop ⇒ Iron Man (the host's read). The Ironmonger voice and suit recall ED-209, and the finale is ED-209 versus RoboCop.
    “You know what the voice is? He's Ed 209.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:53:20 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Sydney Pollack: 1 line

  1. craft (craft) · through Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), which they were behind as studio: Sydney Pollack ⇒ Captain America: The Winter Soldier (the host's read). Winter Soldier's look is said to approximate a Sydney Pollack movie (transcribed 'Sydney Poland').
    “And, you know, Captain America's sort of trying to approximate like a fucking Sydney Poland movie or whatever.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:34:31 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

The Avengers (2012): 1 line

  1. programming (programming) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they were behind as studio, house style, merchandising redesign cycle: The Avengers ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy (the host's read). Thanos' Chitauri subcontracting sets up the cosmic films; Guardians is next on their Marvel list.
    “We're gonna we're gonna cover Peter movie soon.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:34:57 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

The Incredible Hulk (1977): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The Incredible Hulk (2008), which they were behind as producer, creative control: The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Incredible Hulk (the host's read). A speaker says the film reuses the old TV show's score, the sad-guitar cue from Bixby walking away, even though Craig Armstrong scored it.
    “They used the score from the Incredible Hulk at some point in this movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:47:14 · Griffin Newman or David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Drawn on by

What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017): 4 lines

  1. craft (craft) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they were behind as studio, house style, merchandising redesign cycle: Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (the host's read). Vol. 2 used a brightly blue Yondu and a bright Milano interior to dodge the washed-out look of the first film's color grading.
    “He's just smart about working in, like, I'm going to make his skin so bright blue.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:25:17 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they were behind as studio, house style, merchandising redesign cycle: Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (the host's read). The sequel deepens Yondu's relationship with Quill so the first film's scene reads differently in retrospect.
    “Knowing what you know about their relationship that you learn in the sequel, you know, colors this scene a little bit more”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:26:31 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (lineage) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they were behind as studio, house style, merchandising redesign cycle: Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (the host's read). The sequel doubles down on Yondu's arrow by building its best action sequence around it.
    “And then that the 2nd movie doubles down on it with like building its best action sequence around the era.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:42:42 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  4. lineage (lineage) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they were behind as studio, house style, merchandising redesign cycle: Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (the host's read). Vol. 2 is the movie that develops Nebula's backstory with Gamora; this film is about Quill and dads in embryo.
    “Because 2 is the one that's gonna, you know, is trying to win you over to Nebula.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:43:46 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Iron Man 3 (2013): 3 lines

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man (2008), which they were behind as studio: Iron Man ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). The Iron Man trilogy is closed into a circle by the flashback to the party and Becca Hall and Pierce.
    “as individualistic as this movie is, it actually like... It's bringing the 1st 2 complete.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:18:57 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man 2 (2010), which they were behind as studio: Iron Man 2 ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). Iron Man 2's failure forced something new, giving Shane Black room to make a better third film.
    “But also, that is why the 3rd one is good because the 2nd one was such a mistake that they were like, we don't know.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:20:47 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. theme (theme) · through Iron Man (2008), which they were behind as studio: Iron Man ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read). Iron Man 3 later parodies the Osama-type Mandarin expectation that Iron Man originally planned (Ten Rings leader, no magic).
    “And then Iron Man 3 wisely parodies that expectation.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:25:03 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

The Avengers (2012): 3 lines

  1. lineage (lineage) · through The Incredible Hulk (2008), which they were behind as producer, creative control: The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read). Avengers' line about Hulk 'breaking Harlem' is false: the Abomination did it.
    “That's the one thing they reference in Avengers, where he says, I kind of broke Harlem.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:34:36 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them)
  2. industry (industry) · through Iron Man (2008), which they were behind as studio: Iron Man ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read). The post-credits Nick Fury scene established the shared-universe model that changed Hollywood for a decade or more.
    “I mean, this has changed the next 10 years of Hollywood filmmaking.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:13:16 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
  3. lineage (lineage) · through The Incredible Hulk (2008), which they were behind as producer, creative control: The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read). Ruffalo's first Hulk scene in a slum echoes this film's Rocinha opening, though otherwise the continuity is thrown out.
    “The only tale is that when the Mark Ruffalo hook was introduced, they find the little hot.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:25:11 · Griffin or David (0.25 sure it was them)

Captain Marvel (2019): 2 lines

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they were behind as studio, house style, merchandising redesign cycle: Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read). As a prequel, Captain Marvel brings back Guardians characters Ronan (Lee Pace) and Korath (Djimon Hounsou).
    “this is, of course, a prequel, so their characters appear in this film again.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:43:32 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
  2. craft (craft) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they were behind as studio, house style, merchandising redesign cycle: Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read). The Flarkin cat in Captain Marvel is a version of the Drax metaphor joke, but this film's joke lands better thanks to the cut to his face.
    “And you know, you know, the cat in Captain Marvel is like a version of this joke.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:46:06 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Ant-Man (2015): 1 line

  1. programming (programming) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they were behind as studio, house style, merchandising redesign cycle: Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Ant-Man (the host's read). After Guardians' success with unknown characters, Ant-Man was an easy next gamble.
    “you do Ant-Man after that because you're just like, yeah, let's do Ant-Man.”
    The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:17:03 · Jason Concepcion (0.40 sure it was them)

Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015): 1 line

  1. programming (programming) · through Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), which they were behind as studio: Captain America: The Winter Soldier ⇒ Avengers: Age of Ultron (the host's read). The post-credits scene sets up the twins and Strucker's experiments.
    “You know what they're setting up here, Benny.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:12:03 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022): 1 line

  1. theme (character introduction) · through Iron Man 2 (2010), which they were behind as studio: Iron Man 2 ⇒ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (the host's read). Van says the MCU has introduced characters inside other movies before, like Black Widow in Iron Man 2.
    “Black Widow makes her a parent, her 1st appearance.”
    The Big Picture · ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’ Is Here! · 0:37:22 · Van Lathan (0.80 sure it was them)

Captain America (First Avenger / MCU): 1 line

  1. programming (programming) · through The Incredible Hulk (2008), which they were behind as producer, creative control: The Incredible Hulk ⇒ Captain America (First Avenger / MCU) (the host's read). The hero jumping out of a hangar plane becomes a recurring Marvel image, starting here and used in Black Panther and Captain America.
    “And this is the 1st of what then becomes the Marvel trope where a hero is either pushed out of or jumps out of the back of like a hangar plane.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:31:34 · Griffin or David (0.35 sure it was them)

Captain America: The First Avenger (2011): 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man 2 (2010), which they were behind as studio: Iron Man 2 ⇒ Captain America: The First Avenger (the host's read). The Stark Expo of the 1940s is the origin of the Expo seen in Iron Man 2, now as the full World's Fair version.
    “Like what we see in Iron Man 2, but now it's like the full like 40s World Fair version.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:19:47 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)

Ghostface Killah: 1 line

  1. people (people) · through Iron Man (2008), which they were behind as studio: Iron Man ⇒ Ghostface Killah (the host's read). Ghostface is the Wu-Tang member particularly obsessed with Iron Man, who is the avatar of many of his songs.
    “Iron Man is like the like his hero.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:40:17 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Sonic the Hedgehog (upcoming film): 1 line

  1. industry (industry) · through Guardians of the Galaxy (2014), which they were behind as studio, house style, merchandising redesign cycle: Guardians of the Galaxy ⇒ Sonic the Hedgehog (upcoming film) (the host's read). The new Sonic design looks like it copied Rocket's design.
    “I also think they copied Rocket's design for the new Sonic.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:32:18 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

Teen Titans Go! To the Movies (2018): 1 line

  1. craft (craft) · through Iron Man (2008), which they were behind as studio: Iron Man ⇒ Teen Titans Go! To the Movies (the host's read). That film parodies the page-flipping Marvel logo, which opens Iron Man.
    “They, uh, they do a really good parody of that in, um, Teen Titans go the movies.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:08:41 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

modern superhero movies: 1 line

  1. lineage (lineage) · through Iron Man (2008), which they were behind as studio: Iron Man ⇒ modern superhero movies (the host's read). Called the prototype format every later superhero film riffs on.
    “this is the prototype for the modern superhero movie.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:09:11 · unknown (Griffin or David) (0.30 sure it was them)

What the speakers said they did

Studio (6) everyone in studio

What was said about them, by kind

craft (1)

  1. craft (craft): James Gunn → Marvel Studios. Gunn fights the Marvel house style with bright pops of color against an otherwise gray palette; Marvel's usual post sheen is criticized.
    “But you do see in this movie gun fighting against the Marvel House style because it's like, this is all so gray.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:49:39 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

industry (1)

  1. industry (industry): James Gunn → Marvel Studios. Marvel doesn't trust directors until they've proven themselves; Gunn wins creative arguments because he makes the action funny and the script already has jokes.
    “But the reason why I think gun wins greater control. Well, gun's very good at action sequences is that he makes his action sequences funny.”
    Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:50:33 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)

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