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lineage (lineage):
Captain Marvel → The Avengers.
The Tesseract, the glowing box, was a MacGuffin in the first Avengers and in Infinity War.
“you may remember the Tesseract from the 1st Avengers film, and then, of course, the most recent Avengers film, Avengers Infinity War”
The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:09:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.85 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Batman Begins → The Avengers.
DC's Nolan-started universe began five years before Marvel's shared universe; had DC known, they would have jumped on it.
“if DC had any inkling of what Marvel was to create 5 years later that they would have jumped on this shared universe IP right away.”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:07:14 · Sean Fennessey (0.40 sure it was them) -
programming (programming):
The Avengers → Thor.
Thor was treated as a loss leader, a stepping stone to the Avengers.
“Thor was treated as a loss leader, essentially.”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 0:13:42 · Sean Fennessey (0.50 sure it was them) -
theme (theme):
The Avengers → Spider-Man: Homecoming.
Homecoming's Mary Jane reveal avoided fan service in favor of storytelling.
“the reveal of MJ of Mary Jane at the end of the movie was really powerful”
The Big Picture · The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35) · 1:00:08 · David Shoemaker (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
RoboCop → The Avengers.
The film is pre-Marvel franchise filmmaking that landed two years after The Avengers and feels out of touch with trends.
“this movie comes out 2 years after the Avengers.”
Blank Check — Patreon · RoboCop (2014) · 1:21:08 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
The Avengers → Avengers: Infinity War.
The Hulk echoes Tony Stark's words from the first Avengers; the movie is full of callbacks.
“echoing Tony Stark's words from the Avengers 2012”
Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 0:25:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
The Avengers → Avengers: Infinity War.
In 2012 Banner could become the Hulk at will; now he cannot at all.
“where Bruce Banner could turn into the Hulk at Will, and now he can't turn into it at all”
Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 0:44:01 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Joaquin Phoenix → The Avengers.
Phoenix was the first choice for Bruce Banner when Marvel recast; Ruffalo was a surprise.
“And he also was the 1st person they were trying really hard to get for Bruce Banner for Avengers when they knew they were recasting.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:21:19 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Guardians of the Galaxy → The Avengers.
It is the first Marvel film with a totally new cast since Captain America, so separate from the other MCU films.
“And it's really the 1st one with a totally new cast since capt one.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:18:37 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
The Avengers → Avengers: Infinity War.
Marvel billing is contractual: Evans is second-billed in Avengers 1 and 4, Hemsworth in 2 and 3, and Ruffalo is locked at third.
“But then there's the very specific and unusual arrangement.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:22:27 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
James Gunn → The Avengers.
Gunn, like Whedon, is both writer and director, and the movies are incubated by the person who will direct them.
“And there's a big difference when the movies are clearly being incubated by the same person who's going to direct them later.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:34:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
The Avengers → Avengers: Age of Ultron.
The first Avengers' bright final daylight action is a big plus; Ultron is daylight but gloomy.
“That's another big plus to Avengers, the the 1st one, totally, total daylight stuff.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 1:53:52 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Captain America: The Winter Soldier → The Avengers.
The Helicarrier was so expensive in Avengers that Feige wanted multiple uses out of it, hence its role here.
“we spend so much fucking money on that Avengers hella courier.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 0:19:38 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
Thor: The Dark World → The Avengers.
The Dark World is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki: he becomes co-lead, Thor 1A to Loki 1B.
“This is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki, where they're like, we get it now.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:20:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
Thor: The Dark World → The Avengers.
Avengers ends with the team scattering, which is why the Phase 2 sequels can stand alone.
“And also, Joss Wheaton's like master stroke at the end of Avengers is like, we're not a team.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:30:50 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
Iron Man 3 → The Avengers.
Iron Man 3 works as a quasi-sequel to The Avengers because it deals with Tony's trauma of the portal and aliens.
“Except it's it is a sort of quasi sequel to the Avengers in that it's dealing with the fact that he got sucked into a portal into space for a 2nd there.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:15:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
programming (programming):
Iron Man 3 → The Avengers.
Phase 2 begins here and Avengers' victory lap gave Feige room to let each film feel individual.
“They're on such a victory lap that it feels like this is the one little chunk of time where Kevin Feige lets go a little bit.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:16:00 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Avengers:
Paramount still has its logo on a film Disney bought; they joke Paramount staked its territory and Disney got the last laugh by earning more.
“Paramount made so much money for selling these movies, but Disney got the last laugh because they made even more money buying these movies.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:01:09 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
The Avengers → Kevin Feige.
The film looks homogenized because Feige quality-controls the look across all Marvel films.
“He's trying to like quality control across all franchise locations. It's a kind of homogeneous look.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:02:55 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
The Avengers → Olympus Has Fallen.
The opening tunnel car chase is dismissed as Olympus-Has-Fallen-level dull, though later Marvel films do it more elaborately and no better.
“is this like Olympus has fallen level?”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:10:02 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
The Avengers → The Incredible Hulk.
Pre-Avengers grosses (Iron Man ~300, Hulk ~150, Cap ~170) suggested a glass ceiling; the unaccounted factor was the movie being very good.
“And then the X factor I wasn't considering was, what if movie very good?”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:13:53 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
theme (theme):
The Avengers → The Mighty Ducks.
The team takes a long time to work well together, the Mighty Ducks arc.
“No, it's about... It's the mighty ducks.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:14:58 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
verdict (verdict):
The Avengers → Paddington 2.
Cheerful movies get hyped as 'the movie for now'; same overrating of Paddington 2 over Paddington 1.
“confused by people who act like Paddington 2 is head and shoulders above Paddington one.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:30:25 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
The Avengers → Thor.
Jumping-out-of-planes shots are a Marvel habit they have been counting (about six).
“We've been keeping count. There are like 6 of them.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:45:47 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Avengers:
Whedon's addition that was not in the Penn draft: the heroes must fight each other first; see the Thor/Iron Man/Cap forest fight at 0:47-0:50 and Cap's shield versus Mjolnir.
“They have to fight each other.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:46:38 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
The Avengers → Thor.
A far better movie than Thor; Thor is more fun beside other characters.
“This is a better movie than Thor? Much better.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:49:21 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
The Avengers → Justice League.
In Avengers each character has a voice; in Justice League anyone could say any line.
“in the Justice League, in this scene, anyone could say any line and it would sound fine.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:54:08 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
The Avengers → Lost.
Selvig's fake beard in the mobile lab is a continuity fix like Lost's, glued on across time periods.
“What they're doing here is the thing that they did on Lost, where they had to cut between different time periods.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:02:23 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
The Avengers → Fast Five.
Both are ensemble movies where everyone shines, setups pay off, and every moment is fun.
“here's a big ensemble cast. everyone shines, everything that's set up is paid off, elegantly, and every moment is fun.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:06:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
theme (theme):
Thor: Ragnarok → The Avengers.
Ben's favorite Marvel movie; Hulk's journey into space follows from here.
“Ragnarok is 100% Ben's favorite Marvel movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:18:58 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
programming (programming):
The Avengers → Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D..
Coulson was brought back for the TV show but kept out of the movies, signaling the TV show is only loosely connected.
“you can be in the TV show, like, because we need, you know, a star for the show”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:29:09 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
programming (programming):
Captain Marvel → The Avengers.
Captain Marvel is a 1990s prequel in which Fury still has both eyes, bringing back Coulson/Fury; they predict nineties-reference gags.
“So in that one, Nick Fury has 2 eyes.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:29:32 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Harry Dean Stanton → The Avengers.
The cameo was written as a nine-page Hulk conversation, shot in full, cut to a beat; the long version is on the DVD.
“there should be like a 9 page dialogue scene with the Hulk talks with an old security man about the nature of humanity and they shot all of it”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:32:35 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
The Avengers → The Tick.
Cutting-in-coverage lesson: a three-year-old asks where the blue guy went; Hawkeye screen-time counts miss the same point.
“But every time they cut to my clothes, he'd be like, where'd the blue guy go?”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:34:42 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
programming (programming):
The Avengers → Guardians of the Galaxy.
Thanos' Chitauri subcontracting sets up the cosmic films; Guardians is next on their Marvel list.
“We're gonna we're gonna cover Peter movie soon.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:34:57 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
The Avengers → Idiocracy.
Black Widow's origin tangent: Tony's rushed Iron Man 2 pitch reminded Griffin of the endless slides gag in Idiocracy.
“Do you know what one of my favorite jokes in the history of movies is?”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:36:19 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
The Avengers → Avengers: Age of Ultron.
Age of Ultron opens with the team already together and Fury in hiding, so it is a sequel to five films rather than to Avengers.
“Avengers 2 can't be a sequel to Avengers one. It has to be a sequel to 5 other moments.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:39:42 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
The Avengers → Star Wars: The Phantom Menace.
The Chitauri transport creature with troops jumping off recalls the Battle Droid transport.
“it's like the thing in Phantom Menace, the, uh, Battle Droid Transport.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:47:09 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
theme (theme):
The Avengers → Sully.
Shield's board distrusts the Avengers the way the flight board distrusted Sully, who was right.
“They didn't trust Sully, but Sully was right.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:55:14 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
The Avengers → Man of Steel.
Man of Steel's similar downtown destruction finale feels unreal with random civilians; Avengers grounds it in the street.
“the denim one is like the opposite of this.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:59:00 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
The Avengers → Iron Man.
Iron Man gives Marvel the template; Avengers sets the 80% spectacle / 20% funny template for the rest.
“It's like 80%'s got spectacle, 20% funny.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:01:33 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
theme (theme):
The Avengers → Iron Man 3.
Stark's arc across three Iron Man films peaks in Iron Man 3, and Avengers lays the track for its PTSD.
“Iron Man 3 is all him being unable to cope with the psychological like trauma of this.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:07:49 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Avengers:
The end-credits 'battle wounds' sequence; one host watches it to get pumped.
“If I'm trying to get jacked for something, I watch this end credit sequence.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:14:01 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Avengers:
Opening weekend box office: $207 million (May 4), then Think Like a Man, The Hunger Games, The Pirates! Band of Misfits, The Lucky One in the top five.
“Avengers breaks the box office record makes 207.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:16:39 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
fun, about
The Avengers:
The post-credits shawarma scene: Chris Evans had a beard from another shoot, so his arm hides it.
“I think Chris Evans had a beard, uh, because he was shooting a different movie when they shot this”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:23:09 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
Captain America: The First Avenger → The Avengers.
The Ultimates comic made Cap a fascist and Thor a hippie; Marvel refused to do that, keeping the Golden and Silver Age versions.
“And Captain America is this like fascist.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:09:47 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Captain America: The First Avenger → The Avengers.
This one-off 40s period film was the last step before Avengers, with the production rushed to make the deadline.
“The film started production very late. It had a very rush production because they had to make this deadline.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:23:29 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
Thor → The Avengers.
The Ultimates reimagined Thor as a possible revolutionary claiming to be a god, versus the film's real Thor.
“in the ultimates, Mark Miller's take is like Thor is sort of like this revolutionary guy who claims he's a god”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:05:58 · David Sims (0.45 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Thor → The Avengers.
Loki's Thor performance is a Shakespearean tragedy turn; the charm and menace arrive in Avengers.
“He's kind of doing like, like, you see, Branaugh cast him to bring the gravitas, and he's kind of giving mostly an emotional performance.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:43:03 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them) -
programming (programming):
Thor → The Avengers.
The Hawkeye cameo, with no interaction, made the speaker doubt the Avengers team-up would work.
“The thing you want to see is how they talk and interact with each other.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 1:02:12 · Griffin Newman (0.35 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Justice League → The Avengers.
Marvel spent five setup films; DC's Justice League tried eight characters off two movies.
“the Justice League is like, we have like 8 characters and we did 2 movies.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 1:02:49 · Griffin Newman (0.35 sure it was them) -
verdict (verdict):
Joss Whedon → The Avengers.
Whedon kills the sweetest character to prove a point in everything, though he did it well in Avengers.
“Whedon, who, um, loves to fucking kill the innocent to prove a dramatic point.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 1:24:39 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
programming (programming):
Iron Man 2 → The Avengers.
Feige pushed more cinematic-universe setup after the first film, but held most back; the Fury scene and shield joke are the result.
“Let's build shield outlets, like give them, you know, a little more of what they want.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 0:12:08 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Scarlett Johansson → The Avengers.
Her Iron Man 2 turn is flat with too much affected femme fatale, and she gets it right in the next one.
“Which I only point out just because she gets it so right in the next episode.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 1:05:33 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
Iron Man 2 → The Avengers.
Whedon asked to go back to the circular arc reactor rather than the triangle set up in Iron Man 2.
“Number one, we're going back to the circle.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 1:13:25 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
verdict (verdict):
Iron Man 2 → The Avengers.
Hosts say Shane Black's remedy and Feige's diagnosis were to return to Tony in the cave, humbled and problem-solving.
“the thing I know we need to do is get back to Tony in the cave.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 1:28:51 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
what-if (what-if):
Jon Favreau → The Avengers.
If Iron Man 2 had been good, Favreau would have been handed The Avengers; instead Marvel wanted someone with strong story sense who knew the comics.
“He would have directed it if this movie had been good.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 1:38:50 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
programming (programming):
William Hurt → The Avengers.
Hurt's Ross is the one thread kept through the MCU and the film otherwise sits apart from Ruffalo's Hulk.
“The only kind of thread they keep.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:24:59 · Griffin or David (0.25 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
The Incredible Hulk → The Avengers.
Ruffalo's first Hulk scene in a slum echoes this film's Rocinha opening, though otherwise the continuity is thrown out.
“The only tale is that when the Mark Ruffalo hook was introduced, they find the little hot.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:25:11 · Griffin or David (0.25 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
The Avengers → The Incredible Hulk.
Avengers' Hulk transformation is frightening and feels large; here it is cartoony.
“The Hulk's transformation is frightening.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:27:25 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
The Avengers → The Incredible Hulk.
Avengers' line about Hulk 'breaking Harlem' is false: the Abomination did it.
“That's the one thing they reference in Avengers, where he says, I kind of broke Harlem.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:34:36 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
The Avengers → The Incredible Hulk.
Avengers uses a six-block radius around Grand Central for storytelling; this film picked Harlem but could be anywhere.
“They like pick that like 6 block radius around Grand Central.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:39:10 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage):
The Incredible Hulk → The Avengers.
Tony's end cameo promises a team that Iron Man's Avengers arc and Nick Fury's pitch in Iron Man 2 contradict; a Blu-ray one-shot was needed to patch it.
“So this is one of those things where they just like rewrite the film's 3 movies later because chest beaten's like, that makes no sense.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:49:27 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
The Avengers → Iron Man 3.
Disney paid $500M to buy the rights to those two before Paramount's deal ran out; each made over a billion.
“So they pay them $500 million for the rights to just Avengers and Iron Man 3 before the deal moves on.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:22:58 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Iron Man 3 → The Avengers.
Paramount's logo is on both because Disney could not put its name on them, per contract.
“Paramount's logo is in front of Iron Man 3 and Avengers.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:23:47 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Iron Man → The Avengers.
Lacks a recognizable hero theme (uses the AC/DC song instead); a hoped-for harmonizing of every hero's theme would have been exciting at Avengers.
“I love Alan Sylvestri's Avengers theme.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 0:48:15 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
contrast (contrast):
Iron Man → The Avengers.
Iron Man's lo-fi highway fight vs the later hole-in-the-sky stakes inflation seeded by Avengers.
“And now the stakes don't mean anything because every movie has that level of things.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 1:54:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Iron Man → The Avengers.
Iron Man dropped the secret identity, treating it as a punchline, unlike Batman and Superman.
“We're not Batman and Superman.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:04:32 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Iron Man → The Avengers.
The post-credits Nick Fury scene established the shared-universe model that changed Hollywood for a decade or more.
“I mean, this has changed the next 10 years of Hollywood filmmaking.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:13:16 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)