Drawn to movie stars who own the frame (Lily Gladstone) and to character-driven emotional storytelling; wants more of Molly. Skeptical of The Wolf of Wall Street-style glorification and of pop morality; devoted to Silence and the Scorsese catalog, and passionately anti-Oppenheimer in this episode.
Stances
Does not think it is a minor masterpiece; it is an epic
Rejects Oppenheimer as comparable to Killers
Skeptical of the Wolf of Wall Street-type male voiceover until Molly's narration
Thinks it is overwhelming on first viewing and needs a second
Humor: Rambling digressions, self-deprecating about being off the rails, and a vendetta against Oppenheimer.
In their words
“I'm a supremely stupid movie viewer.” (0:15:53)
“Oppenheimer does not deserve to be in the same sentence as what killers the flower moon does.” (1:36:00)
“I held it together for 18 years and we're still paying it off.” (1:42:46)
Loves personal, formal films about women and families (The Eternal Daughter, Happening, The Fabelmans) and controlled star turns (Tar), plus big communal blockbusters like Top Gun: Maverick. Not a horror enthusiast; less moved by Aftersun because she watches as a child of parents. A sucker for Joanna Hogg and for romantic comedies and Howard Hawks.
Stances
She watches movies as a daughter
2022 was a top-heavy year and then pretty thin; her kid affected her movie-going
Tar is a Rorschach test and not too long
Andrew Dominik owes penance for Blonde
Humor: Deadpan and teasing; needles Sean and Chris about mid-ness and refuses to watch Speak No Evil.
In their words
“I did have a child in February, and let me tell you, that just took me down for the count for a while” (0:21:30)
“I'm just into the Joanna Hogg project.” (0:37:14)
“I realize I still watch movies as a daughter primarily” (0:36:53)
A non-comics, non-MCU-fan viewer who consumes these as movies. She liked the original Black Panther, loves the Ruth Carter costumes and Wakanda production design, and was moved by the opening and ending. She can't stand overstaffed plots and weak CGI set pieces, and says her brain shuts off with comic book lore.
Stances
Wakanda Forever was overstaffed and disappointing
Marvel may no longer be making movies for the Amandas
Ruth Carter should win another Oscar
Chief Nolan hater
Humor: Deadpan and self-deprecating, plays the lore-skeptic to Van and Sean's comic fandom.
In their words
“I'm the Chief Nolan hater.” (0:22:12)
“And I just, it was just overstaffed, man.” (0:14:20)
“I think Ruth Carter should win another Oscar, even though I didn't really like this movie.” (0:53:03)
A pop-culture generalist and self-described child of MTV who loves a bewitching performance and a love story, and has a real soft spot for the music biopic. She can't stand sloppy storytelling and rushed pacing, and is a sucker for Walk the Line, Amadeus and the Beach Boys.
Stances
Elvis is a mess in storytelling decisions
Music biopics are a stupid genre that sometimes works anyway
Good parody needs a sincere object, so Walk the Line deserves number one
Performance-driven biopics can overcome ordinary filmmaking
Humor: Wry and self-deprecating, with a talent for quick riffs on cultural trivia.
In their words
“I just decided to put walk the line at number one because you know what?” (1:03:56)
“it's a stupid genre that sometimes works anyway.” (0:38:14)
“I really am, I guess I'm just a child of MTV” (0:49:09)
Responds to Cruise charisma, underdog arcs and navy uniforms; loves A Few Good Men best. Skeptical of Edge of Tomorrow-type indulgence and Cocktail. Suckers for the Nicholson showdown.
Stances
A Few Good Men is her favorite Cruise performance
Cruise doesn't challenge himself like he used to
Born over Rain Man
Humor: Dry deadpan, quick on the political and pop-culture asides.
In their words
“I really do feel that Tom Cruise looks very handsome in navy uniforms.” (0:37:17)
Likes screwball energy, Dave, That Thing You Do!, Frances Ha, and Singin' in the Rain; laughs at Muncher; a theater fan; mostly dislikes cynical or product-driven nostalgia but is less worked up about nostalgia than Sean. Not a fan of Broadway-theater-kid musicals like Tick, Tick... Boom!
Stances
Afterlife is a movie for seven-year-olds
Tick, Tick... Boom! is not for her
Feel-good picks that make her smile involuntarily
Humor: Deadpan, self-aware gripes and teasing her co-host.
In their words
“I thought it was a fine movie for 7 year olds.” (0:03:19)
“I laughed.” (0:11:31)
“I judge these movies by like, do I just involuntarily smile at the screen.” (0:54:19)
Loves Fast Five above all and the grandiose silliness, winking meta jokes and the gang-assembling scenes. Not a Vin Diesel fan and tired of believability limits.
Stances
Fast Five is number one
Furious 7 is third
Villains do not matter
Humor: Deadpan sincerity about absurd plot logic, such as praising the safe-dragging as problem solving.
In their words
“Fast five, a transcendent movie experience.” (0:02:47)
Loves Soderbergh almost inappropriately, and Minari-style personal warmth. Allergic to corporate storytelling talk like 'stories matter' and wants the Oscars weird. Wants the Oscars to try pre-produced films and montages.
Stances
Not against Black Widow but not vociferously for it
Prefers watching at home to theaters for MCU
Wants the Oscars to make the best of a drab season
Supports Soderbergh's weird Oscars
Humor: Deadpan exasperation, as when she says she wants to jump out a window at the word 'stories'.
In their words
“My affection and devotion to Stephen Soderberg is well documented and like possibly bordering on inappropriate, but that's okay.” (0:17:07)
“I just was thinking about how I could, like, jump out this window.” (0:21:43)
“I'm just trying to bring a little positivity to the world, Sean.” (0:27:21)
Loves old Hollywood glamour and comfort (Cary Grant, Katharine Hepburn, Singing in the Rain), screwball comedy and Nora Ephron, and Sense and Sensibility. She leans toward joy, escapism and fast dialogue, and also likes a good Oscar-race pundit take. She does not enjoy her husband's golf lectures and is skeptical of award-season over-narratives.
Stances
Classic movies should be pleasurable, not homework
Streaming is not the problem for the Oscars, pandemic viewing is
Her do-overs favor movies she actually loves over canonical choices
It's not for me is a legitimate school of taste
Humor: Warm, self-deprecating domestic storytelling, including relentless public slander of her husband Zach.
In their words
“I'm a huge believer of the, it's not for me, school, uh, as you well know, because like, personal taste is personal taste.” (0:22:50)
“It's just like, oh, imagine if we could all be like that, wouldn't that be fun?” (0:57:15)
A West Wing devotee who loves Sorkin's idealism and memorized dialogue, with American President, Moneyball, Social Network and the West Wing as pillars. Cynical about institutions yet a sucker for hopeful, earnest characters; likes Sorkin's craft and grudgingly accepts his politics.
Stances
Sorkin's optimism is unrealistic but she is a sucker for it
Chicago 7 is a good Sorkin film that feels small and whose timeliness does not work in its favor
Rank Sorkin by Sorkiness, not general greatness
Start the West Wing at season two
Humor: Self-aware superfan comedy, joking that she and Sean are podcasters talking quickly like Sorkin characters.
Amanda loves movies as shared events and the narratives around them (the Oscar campaign, Good Will Hunting), wants big communal Bond and Top Gun-style theater experiences, and gravitates to character and female-director what-ifs (Kusama on Tully, Meyers on Gone Girl). She likes boundaries, dislikes influencer content and Emily in Paris (kind of), and wants more women in film criticism.
Stances
Theater experiences should be boutique events
Movie Pass was unsustainable but a missed habit-building window
Does not love bad movies; failure wastes her time
Wants a female director for Tully
Wants more women on Letterboxd
Humor: Anxious-organized deadpan; roasts Sean's systems and her husband Zach's takes with affection.
In their words
“I a person who likes boundaries, as we've discussed.” (0:21:09)
“an all-female heist movie, sign me up.” (0:37:18)
“My my pick is Army Hammer.” (1:31:10)
“I would love to find more women on Letterbox” (1:39:01)
Loves Elton John, romantic comedies, and heroines who just live up to their own potential. Cannot stand chosen-one magic or Disney franchise bait. Sucker for Emma Stone and Disney songs that are real pop songs.
Stances
Probably would remove the magic
Skeptical of the Disney remake machine
Prefers dropping the love interest
Dislikes the original Mulan's songs
Humor: Deadpan and contrarian, happy to say the heretical thing ('average ass ballad').
In their words
“this is just like an average ass ballad about finding yourself. Okay, whatever. It's not Elton John.” (0:49:22)
Raised on Grisham and Tom Cruise; loves Agatha Christie formulas, rewatchable crowd-pleasers, and movies where a woman gets a role. Skeptical of the over-the-top nuance of Stone's JFK. Fond of fantasy and comedy courtroom picks.
Stances
Courtroom dramas are her sports movies
Wants an opponent as formidable as Nicholson yelling you're so right
Wolf Hall repudiates A Man for All Seasons
Humor: Self-deprecating confessions (preschool lawyer, PSATs, LSAT) and dry asides.
In their words
“courtroom dramas are essentially my sports movies” (0:10:00)
Enjoys Judd Apatow, Soderbergh and star-driven spectacle like Tom Cruise stunts; wary of tentpole-only futures and mourns smaller films losing a platform. She is a sucker for drama and pettiness in the business, and for Portrait of a Lady on Fire.
Stances
Wants a best first feature or best breakthrough category
Skeptical of the viral demand for a stunt category
Expects a traditional Oscars year of movies about movies
Humor: Dry and teasing, sending up Sean's Zoom habits and exaggerating pandemic cabin fever.
In their words
“Okay, listen, I agree with the CGI stuff. I just want to watch Tom Cruise jump out of things.” (0:51:45)
“It's the Incredible Hulk and Iron Man, you fools.” (1:05:03)
Moved by Greta Gerwig and Little Women, loves a movie-star performance and Brad Pitt, and Archie Yates and Julia Butters. Can't stand fussiness and filmmaking that anticipates the discourse (Midsommar, The Lighthouse). A sucker for a good ending and ensemble comedy; wants to see a movie about Olivia Wilde's FBI agent.
Stances
Wants Laura Dern to get the It's Time Oscar
Spider-Man's tag is a teaser, not an ending
Picks Greta Gerwig for best director
Skeptical of the A24 Reddit crowd
Humor: Dry deflation of Sean's big-theory moments and bits like 'A24 merch, bro'.
In their words
“You know that I just can't stand anything where the work is showing and where the people are infatuated with the work as opposed to the result.” (0:54:47)
“I didn't know you could do that, but also you were in my brain.” (1:29:04)
“Brad Pitt's having his therapy on the screen and someone filmed it and let me watch it.” (1:13:29)
Devoted to Brad Pitt, Joaquin Phoenix as a campaign personality, Bridget Jones, and Little Women. Dislikes Joker. Anti-democratic on lists, avoids animated movies.
Stances
Joker is intellectually bankrupt
Anti-democracy on list-making
Baffled by Renee Zellweger frontrunner
Humor: Dry, self-deprecating, deadpan comebacks at Sean.
In their words
“I am anti-democracy.” (0:38:10)
“Bridget Jones diary, hugely important to me.” (0:48:05)
Responds to mood, discovery and raw performance, such as The Souvenir and Maya Erskine in Plus One. Is skeptical of franchise lore and anything about space aliens, and likes things she cares about, such as Spider-Man. Can't stand movies that raise hot-button issues without developing them (Luce) and is a sucker for Brad Pitt.
Stances
Disney's monopoly is a confirmation, not a surprise
Luce failed to provoke her
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is a tier of one
Brad Pitt is a presence-based form of acting
Humor: Self-deprecating and quick, with comic storytelling that undercuts her own taste, such as the Star Wars plot story.
In their words
“I'm not a parent, so I don't need like the parenting newsletter from the New York Times in film form” (0:42:55)
Loves costume dramas (Downton), crowd-pleasers, and Greta Gerwig; likes things with a clear tone. Bored by The Last Waltz and unimpressed by Hooper. Can be sentimental (sad if Captain America dies) while resisting franchise lore.
Stances
Les Mis is much better than Cats
Homecoming is long, not boring
Amazon vs Netflix release execution explains Guava Island's smaller footprint
Humor: Dry and blunt, with quick undercutting asides.
In their words
“Les Mis is a much better musical than cats.” (0:20:24)
Loves Wonder Woman and its emotional impact, and responds to women on screen. Not a comics or sci-fi person and not an origin-story fan. Sucker for celebrity and a 90s song, and for Annette Bening.
Stances
Captain Marvel is not Wonder Woman
Female superhero movies carry an unfair burden
The film's female empowerment feels reactive and half-baked
A female superhero movie can also have a love story
Humor: Self-deprecating about not knowing comics, with blunt nitpicks.
In their words
“my immediate reaction was this is not Wonder Woman.” (0:01:18)
“Catch me out here crying about it.” (0:56:50)
“It should be like if Nora Efron wrote a Marvel movie.” (1:04:07)
Loves celebrity and public image, Olivia Colman's warmth, and Lady Gaga. Sentimental and more forgiving of Bohemian Rhapsody as a ratings play. Sees the Oscars as a fight between old and new Hollywood.
Stances
The Academy is split between two academies
Netflix resistance explains part of the Roma loss
Song performances do not belong at the Oscars
Humor: Dry and conspiratorial, fond of absurd comparisons.
In their words
“as a person who loves celebrity and movie stars” (0:33:29)
“I used to work as a cleaner and I loved that job.” (0:18:48)
Their shows' recurring bits
Running bits, not opinions; a critic read aloud is cited, not present.
The Big Picture
Drafts: Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument.
Hall of Fame: A star's or director's best, ranked and argued.
Countdowns: Ranked lists, top five or top ten.
The Rewatchables
Apex Mountain: The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits.
Who Won the Movie: The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off.
The Ebert review: Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show.
Casting what-ifs: Who was almost cast, or who should have been.
Most rewatchable scene: The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels.
Aged best / aged worst: What holds up and what does not.
Picking Nits: The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits.
Double feature: The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick.
craft (craft):
Jonathan Demme → That Thing You Do!.
Producer-pair Demme and Goetzman, cinematography by Fujimoto, score by Howard Shore make it a high-class studio picture.
theme (theme):
Bringing Up Baby → Ghostbusters: Afterlife.
The screwball energy of Bringing Up Baby is the gleeful-but-smart quality they loved in Ghostbusters, which others dumb down.
“is the same thing that you and I responded to in Ghostbusters that so many people dumb down.”
theme (theme):
Frances Ha → Singin' in the Rain.
Both are listed as feel-good picks about movement and joy: the pirouette to Modern Love versus dancing.
“the scene of Greta Gerwig pirouetting down to modern love”
verdict (verdict):
F9 → The Fate of the Furious.
Amanda puts F9 over Fate of the Furious purely for the magnet set pieces; Fate's submarine and baby sequences are the other side.
verdict (verdict):
The Fate of the Furious → Hobbs & Shaw.
Fate of the Furious is ranked above Hobbs & Shaw, with the Statham/Mirren material working better in Fate.
“Especially in Fate of the Furious, because it works in that movie and like doesn't really work in Hobson Shaw”
verdict (verdict):
Fast and Furious 6 → The Fast and the Furious.
Amanda ranks Fast 6 above Fast & Furious since 6 comes after Fast Five and has found its more-is-more footing.
“I like 6 more than 4 because 6 is, you know, well, it's obviously like post fast five.”
programming (programming):
Black Widow → Spider-Man (Sony MCU film).
The previous MCU film was Sony's Spider-Man about two years earlier, so the franchise had waited a long time.
what-if (what-if):
Judas and the Black Messiah → Nomadland.
It would be more exciting if Judas and the Black Messiah made noise against the Nomadland front-runner.
“it'd be more exciting to me if something like Judas and the Black Messiah started making a little bit more noise”
theme (theme):
Tiger → Pretend It's a City.
Pretend It's a City, with its Spike Lee-Michael Jordan-as-artist archive, helps frame Tiger's moments as sublime, viewable only through footage.
“I do think those Tiger Woods moments probably are this sublime, and to be able to see them again, as friendly boys kind of points out, is really the only way that you can”
industry (industry):
Pretend It's a City → Pretend It's a City.
A streaming service giving great artists room to make projects like this is cited as the proof of what streaming can offer; it could not have happened a decade ago.
“I think it's a good testament to actually what a streaming service can provide, which is sort of the beneficence to great artists on projects that they otherwise would not be able to make.”
programming (programming):
Nomadland → Parasite.
The National Society of Film Critics has picked Best Picture winners that later became cool-kid Academy picks, such as Parasite, Moonlight and Spotlight.
“they have picked some best picture winners, um, in recent memory parasite.”
contrast (contrast):
Malcolm & Marie → Parasite.
Malcolm & Marie is the frontrunner for memeable movie, a thing Nomadland is not likely to be the way Parasite was.
“I wouldn't say that Malcolm and Marie is a best picture frontrunner, but I do think it's a frontrunner for memeable movie.”
contrast (contrast):
Network → Taxi Driver.
Network is the extravagant experiment of collaborators at their peak; Taxi Driver is daring too, but less so.
“Taxi Driver is pretty pretty daring, but network is an extravagant experiment and a collision of people at the absolute height of their powers all working together.”
theme (theme):
A Star Is Born → Full Metal Jacket.
Offered as a second answer to best half-movie: everything up to the first time she sings Shallow is dynamite.
“everything leading up to the 1st time she sings shallow on stage, which is like, I think an hour, maybe a little bit less.”
programming (programming):
Citizen Kane → Casablanca.
Younger viewers resist classics because they feel they must watch five canonical films first; a recent episode showed they refuse Citizen Kane even on streaming.
“we just went through a whole episode where people refuse to watch Citizen Kane on streaming.”
lineage (lineage):
Bringing Up Baby → Howard Hawks.
Hawks's fast-talking screwball comedies influenced every romantic comedy and dialogue-heavy film since.
“the Howard Hawks screwball comedies because just of the fast talking and the influence that they have on every single romantic comedy that is made”
people (people):
Bringing Up Baby → Katharine Hepburn.
The Hepburn-Grant chemistry is why Bringing Up Baby is a favorite even if it is not the best performance of either.
“what they can do together and the chemistry between them is um, I'm very partial to it.”
industry (industry):
To Catch a Thief → Grace Kelly.
The shoot overlapped with Grace Kelly being courted by Prince Rainier, a gossip draw to be on set.
“It's when Grace Kelly was being courted by Prince Rainier, and I would also like to kind of witness that from a, you know, gossip perspective”
craft (craft):
The West Wing (TV series) → A Few Good Men.
Cruise and Nicholson are the best single Sorkin performances, but the West Wing ensemble is best because Sorkin could write for them.
“Tom Cruise and Jack Nicholson are the best single Sorkin performances”
craft (craft):
The Trial of the Chicago 7 → The Social Network.
Both use the intercut to dramatize testimony; Chicago 7's climactic speech is another intercut that does not land.
“it is actually another intercut, Sean, as you mentioned”
craft (craft):
The Trial of the Chicago 7 → Molly's Game.
Both add an unnecessary decent or fatherly figure; the Schultz character is compared to Molly's father on the park bench.
“I don't know why Molly needed to be motivated by her father on a park bench in New York City at the end of that movie.”
programming (programming):
Good Will Hunting → Matt Damon.
Good Will Hunting plus its Damon/Affleck/Williams Oscar campaign started Amanda's interest in the stories around movies.
“I think the 1st time I was aware of all of that was Goodwill Hunting”
industry (industry):
The Kissing Booth 2 → Amanda Dobbins.
Amanda worries the craft of movies is slipping while a generation makes TV; Kissing Booth 2 as the example of streamer output.
“the craft of movies is kind of slipping through our fingers”
what-if (what-if):
Joan Didion → Gwyneth Paltrow.
The Secret History was once to be scripted by Didion and Dunne and later developed by Gwyneth Paltrow and her brother.
“there was a script by Joan Didian and John Gregory Dunn”
unmapped (anecdote):
Creed → Amanda Dobbins.
Amanda's husband called Creed 'not that fun' and would not see it again with her; she cried alone in a theater.
contrast (contrast):
Mulan → The Lion King.
Amanda says Mulan did not stay with her like The Lion King, partly due to age and her Elton John fandom.
“it just didn't stay with me the way that, um, the Lion King did, but I think that's because of age and also because I'm like the world's number one Elton John fan.”
industry (industry):
Mulan → Aladdin (live action remake).
Amanda says the live action remakes are made for money and the question is always who they are for, with Mulan being for everybody and nobody.
“I think they're trying to make a movie for everybody and no one at once.”
industry (industry):
Mulan → Maleficent.
Amanda reads the witch as Disney setting up a spinoff, 'maleficenting' the film to make way for franchise action figures.
“I was just like, oh, you made a maleficent character and you're setting up your maleficent spinoff.”
contrast (contrast):
Mulan → Aladdin.
Amanda argues 'A Whole New World' crushes the Mulan songs; Sean says Mulan's songs follow the same formulaic spot as Disney training-montage songs.
verdict (verdict):
The Little Mermaid → Beauty and the Beast.
Mallory ranks 'Part of Your World' third on her list; Amanda ribs that the Beauty and the Beast pick is only the fifth best song from that film.
“the 5th best beauty in the Beast song, but that's fine.”
contrast (contrast):
Aladdin (live action remake) → The Lion King.
Amanda says the live action Aladdin was off-putting because the sex was on the main text, unlike the original's subtext.
“the thing that made the live action Aladdin so weirdly off putting was that the sex was just on Maine. It was just out there.”
theme (theme):
Mulan → Star Wars: Episode IX – The Rise of Skywalker.
Amanda says the love interest tacked on at the end of Mulan 1998 echoes Rise of Skywalker's putting girls back in the romantic box.
“This is also what made me mad in Rise of Skywalker.”
theme (theme):
To Kill a Mockingbird → Inherit the Wind.
Mockingbird is never in question about who is right, unlike the combative movies; its value is the speech.
“there's never any question as to whether he's right”
contrast (contrast):
Miracle on 34th Street → A Few Good Men.
Miracle is the starter kit: a fantasy kids courtroom drama, unlike the others, which are incomprehensible or inappropriate for children.
“Miracle on 34th Street is like, is kind of the starter kit”
fun, about
Poor Things (ending):
Abbott's character gets a goat brain and ends up on all fours chewing shrubbery; the household includes a pug that is also a chicken.
“Christopher Abbott on all fours, uh, chewing the shrubbery, like the, like the goat that he is.”
fun, about
Oscar nominations (Amanda):
Amanda asked her OB to delay her induction a day so she could host the Oscar-nominations pod; the baby arrived the next afternoon.
“And I said, well, because the Oscar nominations are being announced on Tuesday morning, and if he's not here, at, you know, at least I'd like to do my job.”
fun, about
The Killer:
Hotel trick to look for: he balances a glass on the door handle with the room-service tray underneath so a jiggled handle smashes it, then sleeps in a chair for three and a half hours.
“if anybody jiggles the handle, the glass will smash and make a noise and wake him up”
fun, about
The Killer:
He expects six to seven minutes to interrogate Parnell and the man dies almost instantly; the hosts take it as proof the killer is bad at his job.
“he kills Charles Parnell and thinks that he's going to have 6 to 7 minutes to interrogate him and he dies almost instantaneously.”
fun, about
The Killer:
The Miami fight in the dark: grabbing for a weapon in the kitchen, he finds a cheese grater, a huge laugh, then uses it as a noise distraction. Also he miscalculates the dose of a dog-drugging treat for the pit bull.
“and comes up with a cheese grater and you're like, ooh, a cheese grater.”
fun, about
The Killer:
Tilda Swinton scene in Beacon, NY: she eats solo at the bar, orders a whiskey flight tasting menu and asks for her own bottle, and the hosts debate whether she is the life he could have had.
“when Tilda Swinton's doing a tasting menu with a whiskey flight.”
fun, about
The Killer:
Shot out of a cannon: on Netflix there is no box-office report, Fincher hasn't had a traditional theatrical release since Gone Girl, and Adam saw it at Alamo and Toronto theaters.
“He hasn't released a movie to the public since Gone Girl in the traditional theatrical style.”
fun, about
David Fincher:
At the Academy Museum Q&A, an audience member asked how to make iconic movies in the age of TikTok. Fincher sighed and said he never thinks 'how can I make this more iconic' when setting up a shot.
“when I set up a shot, I don't think, dude, how can I make this more iconic?”
fun, about
Killers of the Flower Moon:
They saw it twice, the second time together at 2:30 p.m. at a local AMC the day before recording; Sean calls it a masterpiece but jokes he needed seven hours to get there.
“I don't know whether the joke is on the movie or me that I had to see it twice to get to that, um, point”
fun, about
Killers of the Flower Moon:
Early rewrite lore: DiCaprio was to play FBI investigator Tom White in the procedural version, then pushed Scorsese to rewrite and took Ernest instead.
“Leo was originally slated to play FBI investigator Tom White in the more procedural version of the film, and he went to Scorsese and said, I think there's something missing here”
fun, about
Killers of the Flower Moon:
Owl motif: Molly's mother sees an owl before dying; the second viewing, a bathroom break caused Amanda to miss the first owl on the windowsill.
“I realized about 30 minutes later that I had missed that 1st image of the owl landing on the windowsill”
fun, about
Christopher Cote:
Osage language consultant's widely quoted reaction: he wished it had been from Molly's perspective and says conspiring to murder a family is not love; the hosts treat it as a valid challenge.
“when someone conspires to murder your entire family, that's not love.”
fun, about
Lily Gladstone:
She was offered Molly in the original script version; per Allison Willmore's New York profile she calls the attention of 'the masters' to Native stories a double-edged sword.
“You want to have more natives writing native stories. You also want the masters to pay attention to what's going on.”
fun, about
The Simpsons:
Amanda's masonry knowledge extends only to the Stonecutters episode, which she calls one of the greatest half-hours in TV history.
“the Stonecutters episode of The Simpsons is one of the greatest half hours in television and history”
fun, about
Killers of the Flower Moon:
Sean worries about watching it in installments on Apple TV+; the movie is meant to overwhelm and is not episodic.
“It's not episodic. Yeah. It builds. Correct. And it is meant to completely pulverize you over 3.5 hours.”
fun, about
Oppenheimer:
Running bit: Amanda rages against Oppenheimer, with Sean needling her; Amanda says Nolan thinks great men existed and Scorsese isn't sure any did.
“Martin Scorsese's like, I'm honestly not sure. in retrospect.”
fun, about
Speak No Evil:
A Danish couple visits a Dutch couple in the Netherlands. Chris calls it a what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you movie and a gut test for horror fans; Amanda says friends who took Sean's recommendation confronted her about it.
“This is the what the fuck is wrong with you, movie?”
fun, about
Happening:
Amanda tried not to pick it because of another year of abortion dramas in her top five, noting the timing alongside the overturning of Roe v. Wade; she calls it a week-by-week thriller.
“another year, another abortion drama in my top 5 list”
fun, about
Top Gun: Maverick:
Jennifer Connelly acts like she has been at the bar the whole time; the hosts joke that her Porsche is safe parked on the street in Miramar as an admiral's daughter.
“And the idea that she just acts like she's been there the whole time is the funniest thing.”
fun, about
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever:
Before the screening Sean tells Amanda the IMAX holding poster shows Namor and promises she will learn a lot about him.
“Sean was just like, cool, okay, you're going to learn a lot about Neymar.”
fun, about
Working Girl:
After Van gives his top five, a host complains Working Girl is missing and calls it an all-time spiritual favorite for both hosts, then riffs on Alec Baldwin popping in and out.
fun, about
Elvis:
Amanda zoned out and missed that Elvis's mother died, and only realized the fancy house was Graceland when the film moved on; the pacing is endless yet frenetic.
“Like, quite literally, I missed that Graceland was purchased as Graceland, you know, like 2 hours in the movie.”
fun, about
Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story:
Amanda saw it on a Netflix mailer on a couch with a group of young people, which she thinks is how this whole generation of films should be experienced.
“which is how I think all this this entire generation of movies should like truly be experienced.”
fun, about
Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story:
The film's jokes annotate themselves: characters introduce themselves and each scene has a thesis statement, which the film dares you to call out.
“daring you to call it, call bullshit on this trope of just people saying who they are at all times, which I think is priceless.”
fun, about
24 Hour Party People:
The real Howard Devoto, as an extra in the frame, turns to camera during a scene of Devoto sleeping with Tony Wilson's wife to say he doesn't remember it happening.
“there's an extra in the frame who turns to camera and says, I definitely don't remember this happening and the person who does that is the real life Howard DeVoto.”
fun, about
Walk the Line:
Amanda was embarrassed about picking Walk the Line at number one but took a 'Tony Hawk 720' route to going with her heart; she notes Reese Witherspoon is lit like a Greek goddess.
“Also, she's lit like a Greek goddess. It's extraordinary how beautiful she looks in this movie.”
fun, about
A Few Good Men:
Amanda notes a tiny scene of timing where Kaffee says sit down to people already sitting and pauses for a second before moving on, without Sorkin-ing it.
fun, about
Tom Cruise:
Cruise's Hall of Fame bylaws: the 2005 year (couch jump, Brooke Shields, Scientology videos) coincided with a career nadir and the shift to Ethan Hunt as a safe harbor.
“Ethan Hunt just does everything for everyone all of the time and has no faults and is always on the right side.”
fun, about
Tom Cruise:
The Cruise cake: a white chocolate coconut bundt from Stone's Bakery in the Valley that Cruise sends every Christmas to famous friends; the hosts eat it on air and put it in the Hall of Fame.
“Tom Cruise sends it to all of the famous people in his life every year.”
fun, about
Ghostbusters: Afterlife:
Muncher the blue blob humping a fire hydrant is the one moment of joy; speaker was the only one laughing in the theater.
“So when like muncher, the blue blob shows up and is humping a fire hydrant.”
fun, about
Tiger:
The end of part one cuts to a famous woman sidling up to the camera, called great filmmaking; one director says the moment is a Sopranos homage scored with the song Evidently Chickentown.
“Because of a very famous woman, just sidling up to the camera.”
fun, about
Tiger:
Amanda points out that the documentary shows a magazine photo shoot taken five days after the birth of his first child, which cannot have been accidental, and that a viewer has to look for the clue.
“there is no way that a posed photo shoot is taken 5 days after the birth of a child without the participation and not just the participation, but the planning of the people involved.”
fun, about
Malcolm & Marie:
A famous meme: Sean says the Malcolm and Marie meme sums up the podcast, with one person saying something unforgivable and the other punching a wall.
“It's just like you saying something unforgivable and me punching a wall.”
fun, about
The Godfather Part II:
Sean says giving Pacino the 1975 Oscar might have changed the pattern of waiting twenty years too late to reward great actors, and wonders if Chris would still be yelling Pacino impressions.
“Would Chris would Chris still be yelling Al Pacino impressions on every single podcast?”
fun, about
The Imitation Game:
The only complete film Amanda has watched with her husband's parents, who do not watch movies; the mother asked at the end if they could do something else.
“I've watched one complete movie with Zach's parents.”
fun, about
Michael Clayton:
Amanda's husband Zach refuses to rewatch it with her, and instead reenacts it, yelling I am Shiva, the god of death about fourteen times.
“he did yell, I am Shiva, the god of death like 14 times.”
fun, about
Chadwick Boseman:
Amanda recalls the 2018 video of Ron Clark Academy students dancing with joy before seeing Black Panther, as a reminder of what the film meant to young Black kids.
“a group of students at the Ron Clark Academy in Atlanta who are just about to see Black Panther and are just so excited and dancing”
fun, about
Hamlet:
Amanda recalls the Lion King remake episode where Sean said Hamlet was bad and then went to the bathroom and undermined his own point.
“at one point you tried to say that Hamlet was bad and at another point, I just like had a breakdown”
fun, about
Mulan:
Amanda was so lost on the witch's shapeshifting that when her husband walked in she couldn't tell which bird was the witch.
“Also, my husband came in at some point and started watching and so I had like every time the bird showed up on the screen. I was like, that's the witch.”
fun, about
Mulan:
Amanda skips the music debate by calling the Reflection ballad 'an average ass ballad about finding yourself' after eight emails about Christina Aguilera's cover.
“this is just like an average ass ballad about finding yourself. Okay, whatever. It's not Elton John.”
fun, about
The Lion King:
Amanda notes 'SEX' famously flashes across the screen in the original Lion King, and jokes about the love song playing while lions frolic.
“I just X literally flashes across the screen in the original Lion King.”