Sean loves collecting boutique Blu-rays, a Michael Mann completist, drawn to cult and exploitation titles, and a heavy supporter of Criterion and Arrow. He worries about space and cost, buys sale titles, and hates streaming's impermanence. He is a sucker for beautiful box sets and for completism by director.
Stances
Physical media matters as streaming becomes unreliable
Buy only what carries emotional weight
Be completist about core directors
Humor: Self-mocking addict bits about plastic, black tar heroin, and an ethical non-monogamy riff.
In their words
“I'm a little bit like teetering on the brink of like black tar heroin” (0:07:25)
“Really focus in on things that have emotional weight” (1:11:06)
Loves author-driven art cinema and international films (Fallen Leaves, Perfect Days, Taste of Things) and is moved by sincere, vulnerable movies like All of Us Strangers, though he stops short of calling it a five-star masterpiece. Respects Andrew Haigh's directness. Can be a sucker for the Rewatchables and Ringer in-jokes. Disdains flat, obviously written films like Rustin and the Oscars' short-term thinking about moments and speeches.
Stances
Predicts via chalk plus a few contrarian bets (Glazer over Payne)
Argues the director, not the producer-spouse, should give the final acceptance speech
Believes All of Us Strangers works only if you stay with the feeling and do not dissect it
Reluctant remake critic: gives IP echoing a pass for a new generation
Humor: Dry, deadpan banter with Amanda, running bits (7 AM garage pod, Yasi Salix promise) and mock-promos.
In their words
“It's not, it's not a sunbeam.” (1:04:29)
“I think if you, if you, like see the movie and respect the movie in its totality, I find it to be very effective.” (1:10:17)
“I have a dead mom and a weird relationship with my dad.” (1:10:38)
Loves auteurs and the desolate, we-are-all-alone Lanthimos films like The Lobster and Sacred Deer, ranks Killers of the Flower Moon a masterpiece, and is a big PTA, Haynes and Past Lives fan. Prefers stars with old-school physicality and wants Ruffalo and Sterling K. Brown honored. Gets irritated at shifts away from what he loves, e.g. Payne and Lanthimos pivoting.
Stances
Poor Things is excellent but 'lags' on second watch and the ship section is stuck in neutral
Zone of Interest is a borderline masterpiece but under-seen
Oppenheimer's third hour is the weak point
Questions the Oppenheimer frontrunner status: 'noted skeptic' of the clipboard
Humor: Deadpan, self-mocking bits about his own ego, fitness ignorance, and ranking-rule disputes with Amanda.
In their words
“I think it's a borderline masterpiece that like 180 people.” (1:34:15)
“It's very, very unusual for an American movie star to be in like 14 sex scenes in a movie” (0:36:57)
Loves the Mann of Thief and The Insider, and the dialogue-rich classical side. Has struggled with Mann's last 15 years, calling Miami Vice and Ferrari kin. Sucker for lists and the Mann mythology.
Stances
Thief is Mann's best
Ferrari is good, in the same zone as Miami Vice
Mann is in a late-career box office squeeze
Humor: Dry, needling and fond, especially at Chris's expense.
In their words
“I think Miami Vice and Ferrari are kind of right in the same zone.” (0:48:14)
“this is the last time he feels like young.” (0:51:55)
Loves Fincher fiercely and Fincher's control-freak process; reads The Killer as a repressed-emotion thesis statement. Delights in jokes, set pieces and filmmaking mechanics, and gets nervous about getting a beloved movie wrong. Can't stand cynical dismissals of the film as slight.
Stances
The Killer is an emotional movie about a man avenging a wounded loved one
It is his favorite film of the year and a complete piece of movie-making
Fincher's work is thematically coherent around people who repress feelings
Humor: Self-deprecating and performative, riffing on being compared to Fincher the control freak.
In their words
“I think this might be my favorite movie of the year.” (0:04:39)
“the second time I was like, this is the thesis statement for all of his repressed feelings” (0:07:07)
Loves Scorsese's big, immersive late-period epics and long historical megadramas (The English Patient is one of his favorites, he says); thinks Goodfellas will always outrank Silence or Killers for him. Wants studios to spend on practical craft such as Jack Fisk's sets instead of VFX. Can't stand excuses about runtime and Oppenheimer as a rival to Killers.
Stances
Killers of the Flower Moon is a masterpiece after two viewings
Runtime complaints are a non-argument
Making Ernest a conflicted figure is what makes it great Scorsese
Picks Killers' ambiguity about love as the central question
Humor: Dry needling of Amanda, mock-pompous pronouncements, and a running Oppenheimer bit.
In their words
“I think it's a masterpiece.” (0:02:23)
“It's a complete non-argument.” (1:19:03)
“So do you not want a Martin Scorsese movie?” (1:19:06)
Loves ambitious, big swings and craft: Nope at number one, Babylon, Tar, and big engineered blockbusters like Top Gun: Maverick. Responds to blunt, shocking horror (he has recommended Speak No Evil repeatedly) and is wary of Park Chan-wook and Chazelle's La La Land. Less taken with quiet interregnum films like The Eternal Daughter. Sucker for theater experiences and auteurs spending studio money on something personal.
Stances
Nope is his number one and a better movie than Top Gun: Maverick in terms of what it asks of the viewer
Babylon is bold and bravura despite flaws
Top Gun: Maverick is a beautifully engineered vehicle he does not need to overthink
Tar is a Rorschach test film
Humor: Dry, self-aware; builds comic set pieces around his own mood and cocktail-party logistics and pretends to circle Nope like Mav circling a MiG.
In their words
“Okay, I don't know how I can match the energy of Top Gun Maverick, but my number one is nope.” (1:29:39)
“This film has that. It was really bad, though.” (0:40:57)
He loves Ryan Coogler's movies and rated the first Black Panther a major accomplishment inside a Marvel structure. He wants real-world themes and a clear sense of place, and gets disappointed when Marvel films feel contorted or overstaffed. He's a sucker for the idea of a leaner movie that says one thing well.
Stances
Wakanda Forever felt like it had a Chadwick Boseman shaped hole and was contorting itself
Strong bookends but a muddled middle
Ironheart felt like a cynical Kevin Feige insertion
Would rather a narrower film about Shuri, Wakanda succession and Namor
Humor: Dry host who needles his guest and co-host while conducting the show.
In their words
“I felt that there was a Chadwick Boseman shaped hole in the movie” (0:05:05)
“we're like an hour and 40 minutes into the movie before I'm like, oh, wow, this is actually about this” (0:19:18)
“Game of Thrones was very good at posing who should be the heir.” (1:06:00)
Sean loves Cameron the schemer who wins and is a Top Gun: Maverick and Avatar believer who rewatched Avatar in theaters. He is a box-office and awards-season nerd, dubious that the long tail Avatar had in 2009 can repeat. He is a sucker for a movie that simply works and for director talk.
Stances
Avatar is good and it works because its single story is engineered like machinery
Hollywood misread Avatar
The sequels' success depends on the long tail and not on franchise homework
Humor: Dry host banter, nicknaming Cameron 'Big Jim' and teasing Griffin and David about stealing material.
In their words
“Like, he is the ultimate, like, con artist whose con is real.” (0:30:08)
“I'm always so interested in high-level schemers who actually win.” (0:30:00)
“Okay, this leads me to the most important question of this podcast.” (0:56:49)
A music-journalist-turned-film-critic who loves Elvis's music as a skeleton key to American pop and loves Steven Soderbergh and Todd Haynes. He finds Luhrmann's maximalism overwhelming and Parker framing a failure, prefers biopics that skip the rise, and is a sucker for the performance-forward, auteur-driven ones.
Stances
Elvis is a mess, with Tom Hanks's Parker a baffling failure
Rises in biopics are dull; wants more Fat Elvis
Likes cerebral, conceptual deconstructions of musicians (I'm Not There)
Walk Hard is a five-star movie
Humor: Dry and exasperated, deflating pretension with throwaway one-liners and affectionate teasing of co-hosts.
In their words
“I do think of it more as that, you know, image deconstruction” (1:15:13)
“I wish there was a little bit more Fat Elvis in the film Elvis.” (0:47:24)
“I really didn't love the movie at all.” (0:05:00)
Loves Tom Cruise as movie star above all, and the old-style entertaining Hollywood movie. Pushes Scorsese, Kubrick and PTA, and pulls for Collateral and Magnolia. Can't stand Cruise coasting or being too reserved; sentimental about Legend.
Stances
Cruise is the movie star of his lifetime, not necessarily a great actor
Hall of Fame should combine importance, relevance, achievement and idiosyncratic love
Fallout must be in because it makes Maverick possible
Humor: Mock-politician bits about running the draft, and absurd cultural references.
In their words
“I think that there's probably 5 films in his career that are like locked down the greenest green you've ever seen in your life” (0:52:04)
Loves doom and bleakness in his movies and has a taste for cynical noir. Initially lukewarm on Nightmare Alley, he rewatched it four times and became a champion. Likes 70s noir revisionism and under-the-radar modern noir such as Under the Silver Lake.
Stances
Nightmare Alley is bigger, bolder and better than the 1947 version
Del Toro's visual excess is the point, not a flaw
Noir is coming back into vogue
Great movies often flop and get rediscovered
Humor: Dry and conversational; he teases Patton's range and drops film trivia as a quick aside.
In their words
“As listeners of the show know, I absolutely love doom in my movies.” (0:05:01)
“I watched it again. And then I watched a 3rd time.” (0:02:57)
Loves the 80s comedies, Ivan Reitman movies, Local Hero, Totoro and Pee-wee, and deeply moving small family films like Come On, Come On. Can't stand nostalgia strip-mined into product placement. Sucker for movies tied to when he saw them and for parent-child stories.
Stances
Afterlife betrays what made the original special
Feel-good movies are about when you see them
Come On, Come On is a highest recommendation
Humor: Wry, nerdy asides about production credits and mock-grandiose declarations.
In their words
“I feel very bent out of shape about it.” (0:03:14)
“this is like my highest possible recommendation.” (0:35:37)
Admires craft, spectacle and set pieces but is not a car guy or a Vin Diesel fan. Likes tonal wit and context from filmmaker careers. Can't stand needless world-building homework.
Stances
Fast is as good as its set pieces
Fast & Furious is not built for him
Hobbs & Shaw is last
Humor: Dry and ringmaster-ish, jokes about ruling the show with an iron fist.
Loves tightly engineered, kinetic filmmaking and sharp dialogue (Reservoir Dogs reorganized his brain chemistry) and filmmakers who arrive fully formed. Respects Soderbergh and Aronofsky. Quick to see craft lineage between directors and enthusiastic about unfussy, carefully built genre.
Stances
Reservoir Dogs is #1 despite it being a second feature
Sees Hard Eight as a great but harder first film
Glazer, Coppola, Singleton belong near the top
Oscars should try something weird this year
Humor: Dry and quick: sets up bits with Amanda and teases Brian for forgetting Soderbergh was born in the 60s.
In their words
“I probably would certainly not be doing it.” (1:17:53)
“I choose darkness.” (0:10:19)
“I wish that there was a movie like Mother coming out this year, honestly.” (1:06:59)
Loves canonical 1970s American cinema (Network, All the President's Men), the Hitchcock and Kubrick end of the dial, Japanese cinema (Mifune), and golf and sports documentaries as an avowed golf fan. He rewatches movies as comfort food even when they are not comforting (True Romance, Clerks, 12 Monkeys). He is a sucker for classic stars like Jimmy Stewart, Burt Lancaster, Ingrid Bergman and for rediscovering neglected directors like Preston Sturges.
Stances
The Academy is wrong more often than not, and it is the show's animating force
Classic filmmakers like Sturges are slipping through the cracks of the canon
Great actors should get their Oscars in their time
Unauthorized documentaries like Tiger trade access for candor
Humor: Mock-grandiose and self-aggrandizing, deadpan about his own obsessiveness (fact-checking Scorsese, threatening to lie on the floor).
In their words
“I think we're all agreed that more often than not, the academy is wrong.” (0:40:47)
“I have a poisoned brain.” (1:00:45)
“We need to reward the actors in their time for their great performances.” (0:44:17)
Prefers Sorkin on the big screen over the West Wing and ranks by sheer entertainment and rewatchability; loves Fincher-era Sorkin, A Few Good Men, Moneyball and Steve Jobs, and thinks Sorkin shines when paired with a dark-hearted collaborator. Skeptical of Sorkin's politics and of Chicago 7's smallness; wants the filmmaking sharper.
Stances
Sorkin is at his best with darker directors like Fincher and Bennett Miller
Chicago 7 is entertaining but politically small and Sorkin is not yet a filmmaker for action scenes
Social Network is the best movie of the decade and possibly Sorkin's best script
Humor: Dry and self-deprecating, with mock-grievance about not being invited on The Rewatchables.
In their words
“I would not put it in the top tier.” (1:29:59)
“He's an interesting counterweight, I think, to Oliver Stone” (0:30:43)
“he's he's not quite there yet as a filmmaker.” (1:42:37)
Sean wants command of everything: he watches about three movies a night, keeps a Netflix DVD queue and a 1000-plus film list, and treats director filmographies (Hitchcock, De Palma, Wachowskis) as projects. He champions unloved movies he thinks are secretly good (Last Action Hero, Mother!, A Cure for Wellness, Marie Antoinette), likes Garland over Nolan on a hypothetical budget, and admires effortless, tasteful careers like Paul Newman's. Not into 'so bad it's good' cult culture or into talking down animated films.
Stances
Bad movies worth loving are rescued reputations, not wrecks like Battleship
Would take another Alex Garland film over another Nolan film
Movie business as it was is over and will restart; theaters will come back
Streaming democratizes criticism but lowers the floor
Will not do a top five movies of all time
Humor: Dry, self-mocking obsessiveness: explains his absurd systems and then insists he is right, and trades jabs at Amanda and Chris.
In their words
“I'm a member of every significant streaming service.” (0:21:45)
“my version of a bad movies podcast is not me reveling in the badness, the shittiness of battleship.” (1:08:32)
“I'm never doing top 5 movies of all time.” (0:40:57)
“I'm always kind of obsessed with the Palma” (0:18:37)
Loves a charming 90s Disney musical and the music-driven storytelling he finds in them, big Christopher Nolan and The Last Jedi defender. Cannot stand tonal mush or movies made for everybody and nobody. Sucker for Donnie Yen and film business context like the Chinese box office.
Stances
The remake does not know what was good about the original
Magic and wuxia trappings read as a bid for the Chinese box office
Wishes the film were more grounded and historical
Interested in the business and politics around the release
Humor: Dry and self-deprecating, leaning on bits like 'a 38-year-old man' watching Mulan and Amanda's Tenet claim.
In their words
“I'm a 38-year-old man and I probably shouldn't be watching Mulan 1998 version at this stage of my life.” (0:17:57)
“I think Mulan is kind of what happens when you don't really know what's good about your movie.” (0:26:03)
Loves inventive, maximalist filmmaking where rhythm and music drive the staging, and film as a time capsule of future stars. Cares about directors' careers as a whole. Allergic to studio flattening of weird ideas.
Stances
Scott Pilgrim predicted a lot of pop culture
Baby Driver does not exist without it
A sequel should center Knives
Humor: Dry and wry, mostly through overstatement and tongue-in-cheek asides like comparing the sequence to a 2x podcast speed.
In their words
“I've never really seen that before, something that saw the future in this way.” (0:03:36)
“there is no baby driver without this movie in terms of like the rhythm and the pacing and the way that he uses music.” (0:39:06)
Their shows' recurring bits
Running bits, not opinions; a critic read aloud is cited, not present.
The Big Picture
Drafts: Hosts and guests draft films in rounds; every pick is a recommendation with an argument.
Hall of Fame: A star's or director's best, ranked and argued.
Countdowns: Ranked lists, top five or top ten.
The Rewatchables
Apex Mountain: The moment a star peaks; where on the mountain a performance sits.
Who Won the Movie: The hosts name the person who came out of the film best off.
The Ebert review: Roger Ebert's original review and star rating read aloud. Ebert is cited, never on the show.
Casting what-ifs: Who was almost cast, or who should have been.
Most rewatchable scene: The scene each host would stop on while flipping channels.
Aged best / aged worst: What holds up and what does not.
Picking Nits: The little things in a film the hosts love that they don't think totally work: the nits.
Double feature: The film each host would pair it with; a programming pick.
Their claims
Showing 1,401–1,500 of 1,576 claims.
career (career):
Ben Mendelsohn → Rogue One.
Mendelsohn played Director Orson Krennic in Rogue One, in a flowing cape.
“He played a character with just a phenomenal name named Director Orson Krenik.”
career (career):
Ben Mendelsohn → Ready Player One.
In Ready Player One he plays Nolan Sorrento, a basic evil corporate villain who still brings flair.
“where he plays a character named Nolan Sorrento, who's just a villain.”
career (career):
Annette Bening → American Beauty.
Bening is a 1990s emblem, star of The Grifters and American Beauty, whose character was compared to Hillary Clinton.
“Star of the Grifters and Star of American Beauty.”
lineage (lineage):
Captain Marvel → Guardians of the Galaxy.
As a prequel, Captain Marvel brings back Guardians characters Ronan (Lee Pace) and Korath (Djimon Hounsou).
“this is, of course, a prequel, so their characters appear in this film again.”
industry (industry):
Captain Marvel → Avengers: Infinity War.
Opening-weekend benchmarks: Infinity War opened at $257 million; under $150 million is called a disappointment for Captain Marvel.
“Avengers Infinity War, naturally, that one's $257000000 opening weekend.”
lineage (lineage):
Wonder Woman → Kingdom Come.
Sean points to Alex Ross's 90s comic Kingdom Come, where an elderly Wonder Woman and Batman had a thing.
“you got the sense that Wonder Woman and Batman had a thing, but they no longer got along anymore.”
theme (theme):
Bohemian Rhapsody → The Pianist.
Rami Malek's win reminds the speaker of Adrien Brody's win for The Pianist, a film by a controversial filmmaker with a sordid past.
“I thought a bit of Adrian Brody winning for the pianist, which was also made by a controversial controversial filmmaker with a sordid past.”
industry (industry):
Roma → The Irishman.
A Netflix ad for The Irishman put 'in theaters' first, which the speaker reads as the new paradigm for how movies are seen.
“There was a notable commercial in the middle of this show for the Irishman, a new film from Netflix, and Martin Scorsese that you pointed out.”
contrast (contrast):
The Shape of Water → Get Out.
Shape of Water won in a soft year because nobody was comfortable giving it to Get Out, Dunkirk, Lady Bird or Three Billboards.
“Nobody feels comfortable giving it to get out or to Dunkirk or to Ladybird, or even a 3 billboards.”
craft (craft):
Bradley Cooper → A Star Is Born.
Says Cooper performed as himself rather than as Jackson Maine, which is a mistake because the character's voice is indelible.
“Bradley Cooper, very notably, did not perform as Jackson Maine.”
industry (industry):
First Man → Avengers: Infinity War.
First Man won visual effects because the most high-toned action movie nominated for best picture tends to win the category.
“basically the most high toned action movie that is also nominated for best picture tends to win.”
industry (industry):
Green Book → Period. End of Sentence..
When women are not honored in big categories the Academy gives the award to the women's empowerment movie; for every Green Book there is a menstruation movie.
“Yes, for every green book, there is a menstruation movie and here we had one.”
verdict (verdict):
Hank Corwin → Bohemian Rhapsody.
The speaker expected Corwin to be honored for editing Vice, but Bohemian Rhapsody won the editing award.
“I thought that he was going to be honored here. And I should have known all along that Bohemian Rhapsody was going to win.”
theme (theme):
Alfonso Cuaron → Groundhog Day.
Cuarón's repeated thanks to the same Roma actors in each speech is compared to the alarm clock in Groundhog Day.
“it was that sort of the alarm clock going off in Groundhog Day.”
contrast (contrast):
Damien Chazelle → Moonlight.
Another split between best director and best picture: Chazelle won director for La La Land and Moonlight won picture.
“We had this a couple of years ago, of course, when Damian Chazelle won best director for La La Land, and then Moonlight went on to win best picture.”
career (career):
Yorgos Lanthimos → Population 1280.
Next project is an adaptation of a Jim Thompson novel, gritty stuff from the writer of The Killer Inside Me.
“adaptation of a Jim Thompson novel called Population 1280”
industry (industry):
Todd Phillips → Hulk Hogan.
Fennessey cites the news of a Todd Phillips and Chris Hemsworth Hogan biopic as evidence movies and wrestling are in the air.
“Todd Phillips and Chris Hemsworth are going to be making a movie about the life of Hulk Hogan, movies and wrestling just seem to be in the air.”
verdict (verdict):
Rocky III → The Wrestler.
Fennessey wonders whether Rocky III counts as a wrestling movie, in which case it might rank with The Wrestler.
“whether or not Rocky 3 actually counted as a wrestling movie because if so, that's obviously like, that might be up there with the wrestler is the best wrestling thing ever made”
what-if (what-if):
Paradise Alley → Michael B. Jordan.
Fennessey compares Stallone making a wrestling movie right after Rocky to Michael B. Jordan making a Junkyard Dog biopic now.
“imagine Michael B. Jordan signing up for, you know, the junkyard dog biopic right now.”
craft (craft):
Jules Dassin → Night and the City.
Fennessey notes Dassin set the tone for a lot of film noir and crime tropes, which is why this is a cool vibe for a pro wrestling film.
“set the tone for a lot of film noir and crime tropes over through his career”
industry (industry):
Fighting with My Family → Ready to Rumble.
Fennessey frames Fighting with My Family as the first stroke of a more refined version of the movie-wrestling crossover that Ready to Rumble attempted.
“fighting with my family feels like the 1st stroke of maybe a slightly more refined vision of how movies and the pro wrestling world intersect.”
theme (comparison):
David Arquette → The Umbrella Academy (TV series).
Fennessey compares seeing shirtless Arquette in spandex to the unbelievable gorilla-bodied character on The Umbrella Academy.
“unbelievable as seeing the guy with the gorilla body and umbrella academy”
career (career):
Fighting with My Family → The Office (TV series).
Fennessey says Paige is positioned not far from David Brent or Merchant's Hello Ladies character, with a presumed sense of accomplishment.
“not so far from David Brent or your character in Hello Ladies”
programming (programming):
Leave No Trace → Fighting with My Family.
Fennessey proposes Leave No Trace as an unlikely but reasonable double feature with Fighting with My Family.
“That would make an unlikely but not unreasonable double feature with fighting with my family.”
career (career):
Mahershala Ali → True Detective.
Ali is about to star in the third season of True Detective, so he can float above Green Book's problems.
“Mohershla is about to be starring in the 3rd season of True Detective on HBO.”
verdict (verdict):
Green Book → Three Billboards.
Asked if Green Book is this year's Three Billboards, the answer is probably yes, and there will be one every year.
“I think we're going to have a 3 billboards every year until we fix a lot of larger problems in Hollywood and the world at large.”
industry (industry):
Bohemian Rhapsody → If Beale Street Could Talk.
PGA nominating Bohemian Rhapsody while omitting Beale Street worries the speakers for Beale Street's Oscar chances.
contrast (contrast):
A Star Is Born → Bohemian Rhapsody.
A Star Is Born came out in October and Bohemian Rhapsody in November and stayed in theaters, so civilians saw one and not the other.
“And Bohemian Rhapsody came out in November and has just been in theaters.”
theme (theme):
A Star Is Born → Bohemian Rhapsody.
Star's schmaltz and old-fashionedness were expected to lift it, but that is what the night rewarded in Bohemian Rhapsody and Green Book.
“it's the schmaltiness and old-fashionedness of Bohemian Rhapsody and Green book that we're really discussing tonight.”
what-if (what-if):
Christian Bale → Daniel Day-Lewis.
With Day-Lewis out of the frame, Bale becomes the consensus best actor and a second Oscar would make that official.
“Daniel DeLouis is out of the frame and now everybody's like, this is our best actor”
industry (industry):
Christian Bale → James Franco.
Last year's winner of the same award was James Franco, who was soon blown out of the frame, showing how frivolous the show is.
career (career):
Amy Pascal → Spider-Man: Homecoming.
After leaving Sony she negotiated a producing deal including the Spider-Man rights and made Homecoming with Marvel.
“Her 1st Spider-Man movie, she got to produce in conjunction with Marvel and made Spider-Man Homecoming.”
career (career):
Chuck Lorre → The Kominsky Method.
Lorre, creator of The Big Bang Theory, won for his Netflix show and was emotional, almost forgetting to thank Netflix.
“He's, of course, the creator of the Big Bang Theory”
people (people):
Roma → Alfonso Cuaron.
Cuaron won best director and Roma is bulletproof regardless; best director does not necessarily portend the Oscar.
“I think that no matter what Romo was going to be bulletproof tonight.”
verdict (verdict):
Regina King → If Beale Street Could Talk.
King's win was the one where critics' favorite got rewarded, since she won most of the critics awards.
“Regina King to me was the one person who I was like, this is a small film.”
“Like they're really at home in a world like this, which is kind of rife with meta commentary, but also incredibly sweet and sincere and empathic towards his characters.”
“it doesn't have any of the self-awareness or the, you know, it's not it's self-awareness, but not self-consciousness of Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse.”
“the movie that I kept thinking of, especially as this movie went on and it gets sort of more kaleidoscopic and more strange and more fun and high energy is who framed Roger Rabbit?”
verdict (verdict):
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse → Aquaman.
Aquaman made the speaker dread a sequel; Spider-Verse made him curious about where the story goes.
“unlike Aquaman, which as soon as the movie ended, I was like, I can't believe I have to go do this again 2 years from now”
career (career):
Jurassic Park → Steven Spielberg.
Jurassic Park is the midpoint of Spielberg's career, blending spectacle with childhood and humanity.
“it is kind of the perfect middle ground, the median point of Spielberg's career.”
craft (craft):
Ready Player One → ILM.
ILM artists slipped a gremlin into Ready Player One and Spielberg was annoyed, part of his trimming of self-referential Easter eggs.
“ILM people threw in like a gremlin in some place and like he was just like, god damn it.”
lineage (lineage):
Raiders of the Lost Ark → George Lucas.
Raiders fuses Spielberg's and Lucas's love of 30s-50s serialized hero comic strips.
“it is a neat fusion of his point of view and George Lucas's point of view and their fascination with the serialized hero comic strip stories of the 30s and 40s and 50s”
fun, about
Bohemian Rhapsody:
Queen's opening felt like a Jones Beach concert you'd see with your mom; and there were as many cutaways to Brian May in the show as in the film.
“It was just sort of like a concert you'd see at Jones Beach, like with your mom.”
fun, about
Die Hard / Red Desert:
His list runs from Fellini and Antonioni to Predator and Die Hard; Fennessey sums it up as Die Hard 8 or a Red Desert remake.
fun, about
Close Encounters of the Third Kind:
Chris moved it up the list mid-conversation after realizing how many ideas are in it; the Lucas/Spielberg wager story.
fun, about
Peter Sellers:
Sellers received a best actor nomination for what are effectively three supporting roles; the speakers think it may be the only such nomination.
“It is such a unique nomination to be like, this guy is the lead of the film because he plays 3 supporting characters in an ensemble.”