Joss Whedon
Made films the shows talk about.
Wikidata Q298025: matched by corpus:resolve, told apart by the only person by that name on Wikidata.
Counted as writer. The films the hosts said they wrote, which the two lists below run through too: Speed (1994); Toy Story (1995); Twister (1996); Alien Resurrection (1997); Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1997); Captain America: The First Avenger (2011); Thor (2011); The Avengers (2012); The Cabin in the Woods (2012); Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015); Astonishing X-Men; Astonishing X-Men (comic); Buffy the Vampire Slayer; Firefly (TV). Count them as director (6 films) instead.
Draws on
What the speakers say they, or a film of theirs, drew on. Each is a speaker's account: “the maker said so” when they report the maker's own words, “the host's read” when the read is theirs.
Alien 3 (1992): 2 lines
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lineage (sequel undoes ending) · through Alien Resurrection (1997), which they wrote:
Alien 3 ⇒ Alien Resurrection (the host's read).
Resurrection brings Ripley back as a clone, which undoes Alien 3's chosen death.
“My nuclear take is bringing her back to life as a clone is more disrespectful than killing, uh, hicks and newt in this movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien 3 · 2:06:26 · unknown (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (sequel) · through Alien Resurrection (1997), which they wrote:
Alien 3 ⇒ Alien Resurrection (the host's read).
Resurrection follows Alien 3, but its Ripley is a different character from the one who died.
“As much as she was quote unquote resurrected, obviously, that's a different character explicitly.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien³ with Matt Singer (Ad-Free) · 0:24:13 · David Sims (0.30 sure it was them)
The Incredible Hulk (2008): 2 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote:
The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read).
Avengers' line about Hulk 'breaking Harlem' is false: the Abomination did it.
“That's the one thing they reference in Avengers, where he says, I kind of broke Harlem.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 1:34:36 · Griffin or David (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote:
The Incredible Hulk ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read).
Ruffalo's first Hulk scene in a slum echoes this film's Rocinha opening, though otherwise the continuity is thrown out.
“The only tale is that when the Mark Ruffalo hook was introduced, they find the little hot.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Incredible Hulk · 0:25:11 · Griffin or David (0.25 sure it was them)
Alien Resurrection (1997): 1 line, within their own work
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lineage (lineage) · through Firefly (TV), which they wrote:
Alien Resurrection ⇒ Firefly (TV) (the host's read).
The Betty's space-pirate crew reads as proto-Firefly, Whedon's later show.
“I mean, some proto firefly stuff.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:31:00 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Aliens (1986): 1 line
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craft (craft) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they wrote:
Aliens ⇒ Captain America: The First Avenger (the host's read).
The frozen-find cold open structurally echoes the discovery sequence that opens Aliens.
“this is also actually very similar to is the opening of aliens.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:10:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014): 1 line
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programming (programming) · through Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015), which they wrote:
Captain America: The Winter Soldier ⇒ Avengers: Age of Ultron (the host's read).
The post-credits scene sets up the twins and Strucker's experiments.
“You know what they're setting up here, Benny.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The Winter Soldier · 2:12:03 · unknown (0.35 sure it was them)
Goldfinger: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Alien Resurrection (1997), which they wrote:
Goldfinger ⇒ Alien Resurrection (the host's read).
The newborn alien sucked out the window repeats the Goldfinger ending, but sad.
“it's the goldfinger ending.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 1:55:38 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them)
Industrial Light & Magic: 1 line
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industry (industry) · through Twister (1996), which they wrote:
Industrial Light & Magic ⇒ Twister (the host's read).
The movie was built out of an ILM proof-of-concept clip of a pickup truck driving toward a tornado.
“It was a proof of concept clip from Industrial Light Magic”
The Rewatchables · ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:11:39 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Iron Man (2008): 1 line
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industry (industry) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote:
Iron Man ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read).
The post-credits Nick Fury scene established the shared-universe model that changed Hollywood for a decade or more.
“I mean, this has changed the next 10 years of Hollywood filmmaking.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man · 2:13:16 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Iron Man 2 (2010): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they wrote:
Iron Man 2 ⇒ Captain America: The First Avenger (the host's read).
The Stark Expo of the 1940s is the origin of the Expo seen in Iron Man 2, now as the full World's Fair version.
“Like what we see in Iron Man 2, but now it's like the full like 40s World Fair version.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:19:47 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
J. Michael Straczynski: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they wrote:
J. Michael Straczynski ⇒ Thor (the host's read).
The film borrows heavily from Straczynski's celebrated Thor run, including Thor spending time in the Midwest.
“the celebrated Thor arc was J. Michael Stratinsky, which is this is borrowing from heavily.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:28 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Jaws (1975): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Twister (1996), which they wrote:
Jaws ⇒ Twister (the host's read).
Jonas is the Jaws-mayor archetype, a money-motivated antagonist that became a stock character in every movie.
“The mayor in Jaws is the character that kind of pushes against our lead person.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 0:54:51 · Chris Ryan (0.50 sure it was them)
Jurassic Park (1993): 1 line
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industry (industry) · through Twister (1996), which they wrote:
Jurassic Park ⇒ Twister (the host's read).
Marketing a disaster around unknown leads follows Jurassic Park, where Sam Neill and Laura Dern were known but not famous.
“coming off of Jurassic Park where it was like Sam Neil and Laura Dern were like well-known, but not famous.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:53:21 · Chris Ryan (0.40 sure it was them)
Masters of the Universe (1987): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they wrote:
Masters of the Universe ⇒ Thor (the host's read).
Thor is described as essentially a remake of the live-action Masters of the Universe.
“It's mostly just a remake of the live action masters of the universe movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:03:54 · Griffin Newman (0.65 sure it was them)
Scream (1996): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Cabin in the Woods (2012), which they wrote:
Scream ⇒ The Cabin in the Woods (the host's read).
The decade's tropes-aware strain starts with Scream-era 90s movies and culminates in Cabin in the Woods.
“I think that culminates with Cabin in the Woods.”
The Big Picture · The 10 Best Horror Movies of the Decade | The Big Picture · 0:06:10 · Chris Ryan (0.60 sure it was them)
Speed (1994): 1 line, within their own work
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industry (industry) · through Twister (1996), which they wrote:
Speed ⇒ Twister (the host's read).
Hollywood shifted after Speed; Twister marketed Paxton and others as future stars.
“The one that changed it was speed.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:54:13 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
Stan Lee: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Thor (2011), which they wrote:
Stan Lee ⇒ Thor (the host's read).
The Donald Blake identity came from Stan Lee's 60s devotion to the secret-identity trope; the movie keeps it only as a fake ID gag.
“in the 60s, Stanley was a little slavishly devoted to like the classic superhero comic trope, so you needed a secret identity”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor · 0:08:08 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Star Wars: The Phantom Menace: 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote:
Star Wars: The Phantom Menace ⇒ The Avengers (the host's read).
The Chitauri transport creature with troops jumping off recalls the Battle Droid transport.
“it's like the thing in Phantom Menace, the, uh, Battle Droid Transport.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:47:09 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
The Avengers (2012): 1 line, within their own work
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contrast (contrast) · through Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015), which they wrote:
The Avengers ⇒ Avengers: Age of Ultron (the host's read).
Age of Ultron opens with the team already together and Fury in hiding, so it is a sequel to five films rather than to Avengers.
“Avengers 2 can't be a sequel to Avengers one. It has to be a sequel to 5 other moments.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:39:42 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Truth: Red, White & Black (comic): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they wrote:
Truth: Red, White & Black (comic) ⇒ Captain America: The First Avenger (the host's read).
The one-off serum process loosely connects to the Truth miniseries retcon about earlier black experimentees.
“Truth is a book that essentially theorizes that there was like a Tuskegee airman.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 0:47:45 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Woody Strode: 1 line
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unmapped (namesake) · through Toy Story (1995), which they wrote:
Woody Strode ⇒ Toy Story (the maker said so).
Woody Strode is said to be the namesake for the character in Toy Story, which the speaker says Pixar has admitted.
“being the namesake for the character in Toy Story.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Spartacus with Richard Lawson (Ad-Free) · 1:15:31 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Drawn on by
What the speakers say drew on them or a film of theirs, marked the same way.
Avengers: Infinity War (2018): 2 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote:
The Avengers ⇒ Avengers: Infinity War (the host's read).
The Hulk echoes Tony Stark's words from the first Avengers; the movie is full of callbacks.
“echoing Tony Stark's words from the Avengers 2012”
Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 0:25:44 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015), which they wrote:
Avengers: Age of Ultron ⇒ Avengers: Infinity War (the host's read).
The Hulkbuster armor pays off Banner being almost defeated by it before.
“it's paying off the fact that he was, you know, almost defeated by this armor before.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 2:00:15 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Captain Marvel (2019): 2 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote:
The Avengers ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read).
The Tesseract, the glowing box, was a MacGuffin in the first Avengers and in Infinity War.
“you may remember the Tesseract from the 1st Avengers film, and then, of course, the most recent Avengers film, Avengers Infinity War”
The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:09:03 · Sean Fennessey (0.85 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they wrote:
Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Captain Marvel (the host's read).
The film goes back to the Steve Rogers style of origin story.
“here's how Steve Rogers became a super soldier style of storytelling.”
The Big Picture · ‘Captain Marvel’ Is a ’90s Nostalgia Play. Did It Work? | Exit Survey · 0:03:27 · Sean Fennessey (0.80 sure it was them)
Iron Man 3 (2013): 2 lines
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theme (theme) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote:
The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read).
Stark's arc across three Iron Man films peaks in Iron Man 3, and Avengers lays the track for its PTSD.
“Iron Man 3 is all him being unable to cope with the psychological like trauma of this.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 2:07:49 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote:
The Avengers ⇒ Iron Man 3 (the host's read).
Iron Man 3 works as a quasi-sequel to The Avengers because it deals with Tony's trauma of the portal and aliens.
“Except it's it is a sort of quasi sequel to the Avengers in that it's dealing with the fact that he got sucked into a portal into space for a 2nd there.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 3 · 0:15:43 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Thor: The Dark World (2013): 2 lines
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lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote:
The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read).
The Dark World is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki: he becomes co-lead, Thor 1A to Loki 1B.
“This is the correction to Joss Whedon cracking Loki, where they're like, we get it now.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:20:47 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
lineage (lineage) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote:
The Avengers ⇒ Thor: The Dark World (the host's read).
Avengers ends with the team scattering, which is why the Phase 2 sequels can stand alone.
“And also, Joss Wheaton's like master stroke at the end of Avengers is like, we're not a team.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Thor: The Dark World · 0:30:50 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015): 1 line, within their own work
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contrast (contrast) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote:
The Avengers ⇒ Avengers: Age of Ultron (the host's read).
Age of Ultron opens with the team already together and Fury in hiding, so it is a sequel to five films rather than to Avengers.
“Avengers 2 can't be a sequel to Avengers one. It has to be a sequel to 5 other moments.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:39:42 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Black Panther (2018): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they wrote:
Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Black Panther (the host's read).
Vibranium, the shield metal, leads to Wakanda; adamantium is the X-Men analogue the MCU couldn't use.
“So instead they use vibranium as their super metal.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:27:32 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they wrote:
Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Captain America: The Winter Soldier (the host's read).
Zola surviving and joining the other side is the seed for Winter Soldier.
“Because you need Zola to join the other side.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Captain America: The First Avenger · 1:34:27 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them)
Chris Pratt: 1 line
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industry (industry) · through Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), which they wrote:
Captain America: The First Avenger ⇒ Chris Pratt (the host's read).
The beefcake shot of Pratt echoes Chris Evans out of the tank, and Marvel now puts one in every trailer.
“It's Chris Evans coming out of the tank, Captain America.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Guardians of the Galaxy · 0:37:48 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
Firefly (TV): 1 line, within their own work
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lineage (lineage) · through Alien Resurrection (1997), which they wrote:
Alien Resurrection ⇒ Firefly (TV) (the host's read).
The Betty's space-pirate crew reads as proto-Firefly, Whedon's later show.
“I mean, some proto firefly stuff.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:31:00 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Guardians of the Galaxy (2014): 1 line
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programming (programming) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote:
The Avengers ⇒ Guardians of the Galaxy (the host's read).
Thanos' Chitauri subcontracting sets up the cosmic films; Guardians is next on their Marvel list.
“We're gonna we're gonna cover Peter movie soon.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:34:57 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Jurassic Park (1993): 1 line
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lineage (lineage) · through Alien Resurrection (1997), which they wrote:
Alien Resurrection ⇒ Jurassic Park (the host's read).
Aliens caged and taunted while hunting you feels like the raptors; raptors may be Alien rip-offs.
“the raptors have a bit of an alien rip off vibe, honestly”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:46:01 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them)
Thor: Ragnarok (2017): 1 line
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theme (theme) · through The Avengers (2012), which they wrote:
The Avengers ⇒ Thor: Ragnarok (the host's read).
Ben's favorite Marvel movie; Hulk's journey into space follows from here.
“Ragnarok is 100% Ben's favorite Marvel movie.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:18:58 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
Titanic (1997): 1 line
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industry (industry) · through Twister (1996), which they wrote:
Twister ⇒ Titanic (the host's read).
Twister started a playbook of putting not-yet-A-list leads in a spectacle, which Titanic and later Star Wars followed.
“It became a playbook for it.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan · 1:54:01 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
Twister (1996): 1 line, within their own work
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industry (industry) · through Speed (1994), which they wrote:
Speed ⇒ Twister (the host's read).
Hollywood shifted after Speed; Twister marketed Paxton and others as future stars.
“The one that changed it was speed.”
The Rewatchables · ‘Tombstone’ With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan · 0:54:13 · Bill Simmons (0.40 sure it was them)
What the speakers said they did
Writing (20) everyone in writing
- writer on the script (transcribed Josh Wheaton), Twister (The Rewatchables, ‘Twister’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan)
- co-writer/director per speaker, The Cabin in the Woods (The Big Picture, The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun!)
- writer-director, The Avengers (The Big Picture, The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35))
- screenwriter, Alien Resurrection (Blank Check — Patreon, Alien³ with Matt Singer (Ad-Free))
- screenwriter, Alien Resurrection (Blank Check — Patreon, Alien: Resurrection)
- credited writer, one of six, Toy Story (Blank Check — Patreon, Alien: Resurrection)
- script rewrite, Speed (Blank Check — Patreon, Alien: Resurrection)
- writer, Astonishing X-Men (Blank Check — Patreon, Alien: Resurrection)
- creator, Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Blank Check — Patreon, Alien: Resurrection)
- creator, Firefly (TV) (Blank Check — Patreon, Alien: Resurrection)
- director/writer (writing half), Avengers: Age of Ultron (Blank Check — Patreon, Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman)
- writer-director comparison to Gunn, The Avengers (Blank Check — Patreon, Guardians of the Galaxy)
- creator, Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Blank Check — Patreon, The Avengers)
- creator, Firefly (TV) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Avengers)
- writer, Astonishing X-Men (comic) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Avengers)
- director/writer (writing half), The Avengers (Blank Check — Patreon, The Avengers)
- uncredited rewriter, Captain America: The First Avenger (Blank Check — Patreon, Captain America: The First Avenger)
- writer/director, The Avengers (Blank Check — Patreon, Captain America: The First Avenger)
- co-writer/director of Cabin in the Woods link (said as Whedon had done it), The Cabin in the Woods (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor)
- wrote and directed the post-credits scene, Thor (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor)
Directing (16) everyone in directing
- cast Bettany as Jarvis (as said), Avengers (Marvel) (Blank Check with Griffin & David, Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World with John Hodgman)
- co-writer/director per speaker (directing half), The Cabin in the Woods (The Big Picture, The Final Girl Film Canon and ‘Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma’ With Gillian Anderson, Hannah Einbinder, and Jane Schoenbrun!)
- finished the film after Snyder left, Justice League (The Big Picture, The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35))
- writer-director (directing half), The Avengers (The Big Picture, The Past, Present, and Future of Superhero Movies | The Big Picture (Ep. 35))
- director/writer, Avengers: Age of Ultron (Blank Check — Patreon, Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman)
- writer-director comparison to Gunn (directing half), The Avengers (Blank Check — Patreon, Guardians of the Galaxy)
- director, Avengers: Age of Ultron (Blank Check — Patreon, Captain America: The Winter Soldier)
- director, The Avengers (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor: The Dark World)
- director/writer, The Avengers (Blank Check — Patreon, The Avengers)
- director, Serenity (Blank Check — Patreon, The Avengers)
- reshoots/rewrites, Justice League (Blank Check — Patreon, The Avengers)
- director, Avengers: Age of Ultron (Blank Check — Patreon, The Avengers)
- writer/director (directing half), The Avengers (Blank Check — Patreon, Captain America: The First Avenger)
- co-writer/director of Cabin in the Woods link (said as Whedon had done it) (directing half), The Cabin in the Woods (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor)
- director, The Avengers (Blank Check — Patreon, Iron Man 2)
- director, Serenity (Blank Check — Patreon, Iron Man 2)
Other (2) everyone in other
- writer, Wonder Woman (unmade) (Blank Check — Patreon, The Avengers)
- creative force from Thor to Age of Ultron, The Avengers (Blank Check — Patreon, Thor)
What was said about them, by kind
career (7)
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career (career):
Joss Whedon → Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Resurrection came as Whedon's Buffy TV series was about to debut.
“who is a hot shit screenwriter, like Buffy's going to debut this year, right?”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:11:15 · David Sims (0.60 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Joss Whedon → Toy Story.
Whedon is often uncredited or one of many names; he ends up one of six on Toy Story.
“So like he ends up as one of 6 names on Toy Story”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:25:54 · David Sims (0.60 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Joss Whedon → Speed.
Whedon did a substantial rewrite on Speed, which explains its fizzy dialogue.
“By all accounts, he did a pretty substantial rewrite.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:25:54 · David Sims (0.60 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Joss Whedon → Alien Resurrection.
Resurrection is a rare sole Whedon screenplay credit from that period.
“This is just a rare Wheedon soul screenplay credit in that period.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:26:22 · David Sims (0.60 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Joss Whedon → Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Speaker's Buffy/Firefly fandom is why Whedon's exposition and Fury's crackling lines register as his signature.
“I'm still like a big Buffy fan, a big old-fashioned Wii. I love Firefly, right?”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:04:21 · Griffin Newman (0.50 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Joss Whedon → Astonishing X-Men (comic).
His comics work on Astonishing X-Men and Runaways showed he can find fresh uses of established powers, making him the smart hire.
“when you saw what he did writing comics with Astonishing X-Men, especially. Runaways too.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 1:19:55 · unknown (0.40 sure it was them) -
career (career):
Joss Whedon → Serenity.
Whedon was a correct choice as writer, though as a director his low-budget look (Serenity) was a worry.
“I was such a huge serenity fan.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Iron Man 2 · 1:30:06 · unknown (0.30 sure it was them)
craft (5)
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craft (craft):
Joss Whedon → Alien Resurrection.
Whedon turned the which-one-is-the-android guessing game into plot because audiences expect it.
“Well, it's that and that's that kind of Weedon thing where he's like the audience at this point is going to be waiting for that.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:24:57 · David Sims (0.60 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Joss Whedon → Alien Resurrection.
The acid-blood tricks in Resurrection are Whedon-style fan service, while Jeunet is the better visual stylist.
“The stuff like using the acid in creative new ways.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:57:46 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Joss Whedon → Astonishing X-Men.
Kitty Pryde's bat-in-the-head interrogation shows Whedon's gift for finding a clever new angle in pre-established ideas.
“so emblematic of what he's good at as a writer, which is just using all the things that have been pre-established by other writers”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:58:09 · David Sims (0.70 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Joss Whedon → Serenity.
Answers the 'TV guy' worry about the Avengers trailers by pointing at Serenity as proof Whedon can direct with visual panache.
“Serenity is an incredibly well-directed movie with a lot of visual panache.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:02:47 · David Sims (0.50 sure it was them) -
craft (craft):
Joss Whedon → Iron Man 2.
Whedon told Marvel that Black Widow had not really been set up in Iron Man 2 and the character foundations were shaky.
“I took a look at that Iron Man 2 picture. you had, didn't notice a lot of character work.”
Blank Check — Patreon · The Avengers · 0:09:27 · David Sims (0.40 sure it was them)
industry (6)
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industry (industry):
Joss Whedon → Alien Resurrection.
Whedon wrote a big epic ending on Earth and the studio planned to split it into two movies with an Alien 5 on Earth.
“There'll be an alien 5 that's set on earth.”
Blank Check — Patreon · Alien: Resurrection · 0:11:29 · David Sims (0.60 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Joss Whedon → Avengers: Infinity War.
Joke: the movie might as well show the directors throwing out Whedon's Avengers 3 script.
“taking Joss Whedon's like untitled Avengers 3 script and like throwing it in the garbage”
Blank Check — Patreon · Avengers: Infinity War with John Hodgman · 1:17:24 · Griffin Newman (0.40 sure it was them) -
industry (industry):
Joss Whedon → Zak Penn.
Whedon told Marvel the Zak Penn script was garbage and would only direct if he could rewrite it entirely.
“He basically openly interviews was like, I threw that script in the garbage.”
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industry (industry):
Joss Whedon → Justice League.
Warner brought Whedon in after filming to retroactively make it more like Avengers, with reshoots adding jokes and replicated family cutaways.
“they bring in Joss Whedon after they've filmed the entire movie and go like, can you retroactively make it into more like Avengers?”
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industry (industry):
Joss Whedon → Captain America: The First Avenger.
Whedon, signed to Avengers, did a serious rewrite, and the weakness of the back half is blamed on his leaving after only half the script.
“I believe it literally is that they gave Whedon the script to rewrite and he was like, I only got halfway through it before I had to go jump to Avengers.”
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industry (industry):
Joss Whedon → Kevin Feige.
From Thor through Age of Ultron Whedon acts as the MCU's other creative force and number-one script doctor, butting heads with Feige.
“Whedon, and we're going to talk about this a bunch, is a major creative force on the level of Kevin Feige from Thor through to Age of Ultron.”
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lineage (1)
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lineage (lineage):
X-Men → Joss Whedon.
Whedon's Astonishing X-Men comic captured Cyclops better than the movies did.
“he's really the 1st guy that captured what makes Cyclops an interesting character.”
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people (5)
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people (people):
Justice League → Joss Whedon.
Whedon finished Justice League after Snyder left, inserting snappy Marvel-style dialogue into a grim DC.
“Justice League was finished by Joss Whedon, who was the writer director of the Avengers film”
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people (people):
Joss Whedon → Jean-Pierre Jeunet.
A Whedon script was handed to a distinctive French auteur, a bad pairing.
“It's a terrible match.”
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people (people):
Robert Downey Jr. → Joss Whedon.
Downey pushed to be the star of the team movie in his first meeting with Whedon, then admitted he was wrong.
“I know you think you're making a team movie, but I'm the big star.”
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people (people):
Captain America: The First Avenger → Joss Whedon.
The line about Steve being unable to get drunk is attributed to Whedon.
“And this is definitely a Weedon idea.”
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people (people):
Joss Whedon → Chris Hemsworth.
Whedon, having worked with Hemsworth on Cabin in the Woods and signing on to Avengers, urged the studio to consider him for Thor.
“Whedon had done Cabin in the Woods, and he was signing on to Avengers while they were casting this and he said, you should really consider that Hemsworth guy.”
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verdict (2)
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verdict (verdict):
Joss Whedon → Avengers: Age of Ultron.
Whedon's Ultron has some problems, but he does a lot right in this film.
“if you're going to DFI Joss Whedon, this is the one.”
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verdict (verdict):
Joss Whedon → The Avengers.
Whedon kills the sweetest character to prove a point in everything, though he did it well in Avengers.
“Whedon, who, um, loves to fucking kill the innocent to prove a dramatic point.”
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what-if (1)
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what-if (what-if):
Joss Whedon → Wonder Woman (unmade Whedon script).
Everyone cheered Whedon being hired for Wonder Woman; the script is notorious and was not greenlit, perhaps because the world wasn't ready.
“That script is notorious for being crummy.”
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Fun items about them
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fun, about
Joss Whedon:
Whedon's script ended with a battle on Earth and the studio planned to split it into two movies, with an Alien 5 set on Earth.
“There'll be an alien 5 that's set on earth.”
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fun, about
Joss Whedon:
Whedon's pitch meeting: said the Zak Penn script was garbage; also told Downey it's a team movie with Cap leading, no Iron Man movie.
“And Josh Sweden was like, cool. No.”
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